New multi year scholarship rule destroys Bama oversigning advantage

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Individual colleges will also have the option to give scholarships on a multiple-year basis or keep the current year-by-year model
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I LOVE the new rule. It smacks Bama, Auburn, LSU and the other programs that cut players/oversign right in their face and destroys a big advantage of theirs.
These schools oversign by cutting underperforming players and signing players to replace those players.

With these new rules, the clean programs who do not cut players can finally get an advantage of the cutting programs like Bama.

As of right now, the programs that do not cut players cannot guarantee the recruits a 4 year scholarship but at the same time they do not take advantage of the 1 year scholarships by cutting players. With these new rules, these clean programs can OFFICIALLY offer 4 year guaranteed scholarships (if you don't cut you would have no problems offering 4 years guaranteed) while the dirty cutting programs like Bama will offer 1 year scholarships.

It will really be a disadvantage for programs like Bama to offer a kid on a visit with his mom a 1 year scholarship while other programs offered 4 years guaranteed. It gives the player much more security in case they underperform or get injured since they will not be cut, but at the same time it shows the player and his family that the program cares a lot more for them since they offer 4 years guaranteed instead of just 1.

So now either:

Bama starts offering 4 year scholarships and stops cutting (thus losing the advantage of cutting), or they keep up the cutting and get hammered on the cutting and have a big recruiting disadvantage (so they gain a major recruiting disadvantage).

Either way, I think Bama and LSU (and the entire SEC West) will take a pretty sizable hit with this new rule. Cutting is a huge advantage that cannot be underestimated.

NCAA panel approves major scholarship rules changes - ESPN
 
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Interesting, but 2 star players and unrated players will get offered 1 yr scholarships, 4 and 3 star players will get multi-year scholarships, etc. They will skirt around it.
 
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oklavol said:
Interesting, but 2 star players and unrated players will get offered 1 yr scholarships, 4 and 3 star players will get multi-year scholarships, etc. They will skirt around it.
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Thought this too.

But it could still certainly lower the advantage gained. A bust is a bust at that point, not a brand new scholarship.

I guess. It's 4:00 on a friday, idk.
 
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I really doubt it'll change much. They can still cut playing time and strongly encourage transfers.
 
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If I have an academic scholarship, and I PAR-TAY nonstop and pull a 1.53 GPA for two straight semesters, should I still get a full 4 year ride, or should I loose it/get one last chance to perform as expected?
 
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oklavol said:
Interesting, but 2 star players and unrated players will get offered 1 yr scholarships, 4 and 3 star players will get multi-year scholarships, etc. They will skirt around it.
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Just like the Bear did back in the day. Giving out scholies for wrestling and etc to football players after over signing.
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Yeah but on the flip side. What does a school do if they offer a 4 yr scholly based on Stars and the player under performs?
 
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oklavol said:
Interesting, but 2 star players and unrated players will get offered 1 yr scholarships, 4 and 3 star players will get multi-year scholarships, etc. They will skirt around it.
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At the worst it will hurt a little bit.

The article is not thorough, but I wonder if it the case where one program can offer a 4 year guarantee scholarship to one player while a 1 year scholarship to another player?

Because it might be where a program has to pick- either offer 4 year guarantees to all players or offer 1 year scholarships to all players....if this is the case then Bama is screwed. I hope this is how the rule works.

But even if it's the first way I listed, that plus new 25 rule means Bama can only sign 100 per 4 years...they used to sign like 118 per 4 years so these rules are hurting them a bit by bit.

Why would a 2-3 star go to Bama where they can be cut while they can go to another program and get a full guarantee of 4 years?

Next they need a rule to limit medical hardships.
 
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The board also approved a measure that will give individual schools the authority to award scholarships on a multiple-year basis.

Under the current model, those scholarships are renewed annually and can be revoked for any reason. If adopted, schools could guarantee scholarships for the player's entire career and would be unable to revoke it based solely on athletic performance. Scholarships could still be pulled for reasons such as poor grades, academic misconduct or other forms of improper behavior.
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Reading this leads me to believe you either give all players 1 year scholarships or you give them all 4 year guarantee scholarships. I hope I am reading it right though it is not detailed much.
 
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Dbake005 said:
Thought this too.

But it could still certainly lower the advantage gained. A bust is a bust at that point, not a brand new scholarship.

I guess. It's 4:00 on a friday, idk.
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Coaches will try to get those players off the team in some other way IMO. Breaking team rules, academics, etc.

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Just like the Bear did back in the day. Giving out scholies for wrestling and etc to football players after over signing.
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Yes, if they have paid players in the past to sign, this is a very small hurdle for them to jump.
secund2nun said:
At the worst it will hurt a little bit.

The article is not thorough, but I wonder if it the case where one program can offer a 4 year guarantee scholarship to one player while a 1 year scholarship to another player?

Because it might be where a program has to pick- either offer 4 year guarantees to all players or offer 1 year scholarships to all players....if this is the case then Bama is screwed. I hope this is how the rule works.

But even if it's the first way I listed, that plus new 25 rule means Bama can only sign 100 per 4 years...they used to sign like 118 per 4 years so these rules are hurting them a bit by bit.

Why would a 2-3 star go to Bama where they can be cut while they can go to another program and get a full guarantee of 4 years?

Next they need a rule to limit medical hardships.
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The only advantage I see, is the 4 star players who are busts won't get cut, and that will limit the number of scholarships they will have to offer.

Mostly likely coaches will find a way to get them off scholarship though. Cut them for breaking unspecified team rules, academics, drug test, etc or just make them quit by embaressing them in practice. They will find a way around it unfortunately.
 
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I feel like this will hurt them for the simple fact that if one school offers a guy a 4-year deal, and another offers a 1 or 2 year deal, then that guy may lean toward the guaranteed scholly.
 
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kevol80 said:
If I have an academic scholarship, and I PAR-TAY nonstop and pull a 1.53 GPA for two straight semesters, should I still get a full 4 year ride, or should I loose it/get one last chance to perform as expected?
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You nailed it.
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Well I guess this will make the AD departments clairify team rules. Maybe the will add a rule like NASCAR. "a violation detrimental to the program" which covers anything the coach feels they need to penalize a player for.
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Not sure why were celebrating we'd probablly go the same route as Bama. Heck look how big this years class is projected/rumored to be for us. You don't get there by not cutting some guys. If it's a rule that effects all scholarships I see DD splitting the difference and offering 2 years. You'd be on a team that long anyway even if they did want to cut you they usually don't until after 2 years evaluation.
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You need to sign more players when you have three or four players leaving early for the NFL ever year.
 
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bama will cheat anyways, they'll end up paying players to leave that underform. Saban doesn't care about the students, he just wants to win.
 
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will be interesting to see in February how/what effects it really has. Is the 2 grand per year or over the life of the deal?
 
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oklavol said:
Interesting, but 2 star players and unrated players will get offered 1 yr scholarships, 4 and 3 star players will get multi-year scholarships, etc. They will skirt around it.
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What if Bama offered Daniel Brooks, Chris Donald or Vincent Askew?? They were all 4* recruits! Had Bama given them 4 yr scholarships, then Bama would be stuck with them, unless the player decided on his own to transfer to U.T.C.
This would be a dis-advantage to Bama.
 
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The advantage will be minimal. They will offer the high caliber athletes multi year sholly's. While they will offer the lower quality players or the one's they are not sure will pan out 1 year scholly's.

While the "clean" schools will still more likely take more chances on the players that the "unclean" schools aren't sure of. I guess that's where they could gain an advantage.
 
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Only disadvantage I see for top programs that get top recruits, is the occasional Bryce Brown that they have give a 4 year deal to and is a bust and your stuck "paying" him for 4 years.
 
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