What W/L record need next season should force Fulmer to retire?

What W/L record next season should force Fulmer to retire?

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#26
#26
Fulmer would have to have ANOTHER losing regular season and no bowl game before Hamilton would be forced to act IMO
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There you go. I changed it for you, since one losing season with no bowl game wasnt enough.
 
#27
#27
oklavol said:
I thought the scenario where Fulmer retired instead of being fired with Hamilton as AD was more likely. I think Fulmer is 60+ and has been at UT for 20+ years as an assistant and HC so retiring would allow him to go out gracefully.
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He's only 56. 60+ is oooooold. Just kidding. :compute:
 
#29
#29
Weellll, this decade, century, and millenium for that matter, are all the same thing at this point.
 
#30
#30
oklavol said:
I voted 5-7, no bowl game losing regular season.

With Arkansas, Ga, FL, Alabama, and SC 5 losses are a real possibility. 7 losses I think would be a meltdown with a loss to Cal and Kentucky. Not outside the realm of possibility bu not likely.
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Absolutely unbelievable. So what you're saying is that as long as Fulmer can manage to beat teams like Vanderbilt and Kentucky, you think he should stay. Absolutely unreal! Fulmer should thank God every night for having such an apathetic fan base.
 
#32
#32
3 losses or more and Fulmer needs to step down.

Too much talent going to waste on mediocre seasons.

I Vote Spurrier as new Head Coach!

:victory:
 
#33
#33
10 regular season wins without SEC championship or less than 10 regular season wins with the SEC championship.
 
#34
#34
Vol423 said:
Absolutely unbelievable. So what you're saying is that as long as Fulmer can manage to beat teams like Vanderbilt and Kentucky, you think he should stay. Absolutely unreal! Fulmer should thank God every night for having such an apathetic fan base.
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I was commenting on what W/L record would force Hamilton to make a change, not necessarily what I agreed with. I feel your pain here.
 
#35
#35
XtennesseeX said:
I Vote Spurrier as new Head Coach!
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I have to ask, what are you smoking and is it cheap and readily available?

I'd rather see Barry Switzer or Jimmy Johnson coach here than Spurrier.


as to the OP, Fulmer could go winless next year and he'd get a contract extension and a raise. of course, he'd fire most of his assistants and wring his hands a lot in press conferences with the local media, but it'd just be SSDD.
 
#37
#37
Fact is if he goes 9-3 or 8-4 he'll be on hot seat but won't be fired. My opinion on the other hand is he should be asked to clean out his office unless he has another SECC trophy to put in it.
 
#39
#39
i'n my opinion a 8-4 campaign should send phil packing. probably won't happen unless we are under 500 though. i see the falcons did not look our way to snatch phil out from under us and i dought the louisville cardinals will look our way as well. we are stuck untill he completely ruins the program.
 
#41
#41
hohenfelsvol said:
Fact is if he goes 9-3 or 8-4 he'll be on hot seat but won't be fired. My opinion on the other hand is he should be asked to clean out his office unless he has another SECC trophy to put in it.
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nah...that won't get him on the hot seat. not for real anyway. plus i think everyone will sort of expect that anyway, i know i do. so how do you put a guy on the hot seat for meeting expectations?

and i am not saying that's where they should be, in fact the exact opposite, but the reality is that we are at least a year away from seriously contending for the SEC again. next year wont' be a barometer for anything...unless we just suck out loud and go 6-6 or worse.

champyvol said:
i'n my opinion a 8-4 campaign should send phil packing. probably won't happen unless we are under 500 though. i see the falcons did not look our way to snatch phil out from under us and i dought the louisville cardinals will look our way as well. we are stuck untill he completely ruins the program.
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won't happen. he won't get fired next year.

this was discussed in pretty good detail last week, but the point was brought up that 2007...what are the realistic expectations? based on talent on hand, Meach going pro, the still ever present question marks regarding the talent and talent depth up front on D and offensive line, combined wit the secondary and WR corp automatically getting younger....and then take in to account that our road schedule is somewhat more difficult that this season...what in reality is this team capable of? my answer is probalby 8-4 or 9-3. and that's not because i'm settling or being complacent or anything, quite the opposite. that's just what i think based on what i know right now.

imo, 08/09 are the two years we should have our eyes set on. lots of jr's and sr's on those two teams with some younger guys from this year's recruiting class and last year's recruiting class that should be major contributors by then. one of those two years will be our next best shot at it.

question is how patient are you willing to be?

but if you are truly, really "expecting" a 10 win/SEC title next season, you will most likely be very disappointed. and you will be really disappointed when it's over, because Fulmer ain't going no where for winning 8 or 9 games in a given year.

not saying i agree with it...but it's the truth.
 
#42
#42
You're wearing me down, Jake. :)

Seriously though, I can already see the writing on the wall. Even if Fulmer has a couple of more ho-hum seasons in a row many (probably a significant majority) of fans will say he at least deserves the chance to see what he can do with the 2007 class, which pretty much means he's clear through the 2009 and 2010 seasons barring back-to-back losing seasons.
 
#43
#43
VolunteerHillbilly said:
You're wearing me down, Jake. :)

Seriously though, I can already see the writing on the wall. Even if Fulmer has a couple of more ho-hum seasons in a row many (probably a significant majority) of fans will say he at least deserves the chance to see what he can do with the 2007 class, which pretty much means he's clear through the 2009 and 2010 seasons barring back-to-back losing seasons.
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:p yeah, i know, i tend to do that.....i start typing and realize that i've probalby put half of VN to sleep by the time i'm done...oh well, what are ya gonna do?

and i kind of agree with you. here's what i think really....if he goes 8-4/9-3 for long enough (3-4 years) eventually it will be considered that he can't "get to that next level" and some kind of change is going to happen. after next season, imo anyway, talent level won't be an issue.

it's one thing to lose to your conf rivals every once and a while especially when they are winning conf. titles along the way...but when you are doing it consistently, with similar talent levels, something has to stick out as to cause. and while 8 and 9 win seasons are "fine", you can't continue to recruit in the top 10 year in and year out and also continue to boast losing records to richt, spurrier, meyer, saban etc, etc, etc...and more and more tn fans are seeing this...i know, i'm one of 'em. I've defended fulmer fairly regularly on here, but not to the point of putting him first. the program comes first. if he's the guy, great. but if he's not...find someone else. and i think we're a lot closer to that now.

But unfortunately, unless we have another debacle of a season a la 2005, the attitude will continue to be "there's always next year".
 
#44
#44
champyvol said:
please not the johnson city squirrel.
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Spurrier is a great coach and yes is from Tennessee.

What is so bad about him besides the fact he owns UT? I mean why not put him @ head coach. He would be awesome. Look what he is doing at SCarolina, he has a great recruiting Class coming in and is turning them around. But if the UT job came available I think he would take it and it would put alot of interest on the UT program which is what we need. I mean could you imagine, players come to a school to play for Spurrier and players come to play for UT. Put those together = good recruiting classes like we have now, except Spurrier can still coach. Fulmer's time is up, he was a Great Coach! But I think it is time for him to step down if nothing gets done next year.

:rock:

Vote Spurrier!
 
#45
#45
We have as much chance for Spurrier coming here as Saban to Alabama. Oh wait a minute....

Just kidding. Not ganna happen.
 
#46
#46
XtennesseeX said:
Spurrier is a great coach and yes is from Tennessee.

What is so bad about him besides the fact he owns UT? I mean why not put him @ head coach. He would be awesome. Look what he is doing at SCarolina, he has a great recruiting Class coming in and is turning them around. But if the UT job came available I think he would take it and it would put alot of interest on the UT program which is what we need. I mean could you imagine, players come to a school to play for Spurrier and players come to play for UT. Put those together = good recruiting classes like we have now, except Spurrier can still coach. Fulmer's time is up, he was a Great Coach! But I think it is time for him to step down if nothing gets done next year.

:rock:

Vote Spurrier!
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i'm ready for fulmer to go, and i'll admit the squirrel is twice the coach. i just don't like him.
 
#47
#47
jakez4ut said:
nah...that won't get him on the hot seat. not for real anyway. plus i think everyone will sort of expect that anyway, i know i do. so how do you put a guy on the hot seat for meeting expectations?

and i am not saying that's where they should be, in fact the exact opposite, but the reality is that we are at least a year away from seriously contending for the SEC again. next year wont' be a barometer for anything...unless we just suck out loud and go 6-6 or worse.

won't happen. he won't get fired next year.

this was discussed in pretty good detail last week, but the point was brought up that 2007...what are the realistic expectations? based on talent on hand, Meach going pro, the still ever present question marks regarding the talent and talent depth up front on D and offensive line, combined wit the secondary and WR corp automatically getting younger....and then take in to account that our road schedule is somewhat more difficult that this season...what in reality is this team capable of? my answer is probalby 8-4 or 9-3. and that's not because i'm settling or being complacent or anything, quite the opposite. that's just what i think based on what i know right now.

imo, 08/09 are the two years we should have our eyes set on. lots of jr's and sr's on those two teams with some younger guys from this year's recruiting class and last year's recruiting class that should be major contributors by then. one of those two years will be our next best shot at it.

question is how patient are you willing to be?

but if you are truly, really "expecting" a 10 win/SEC title next season, you will most likely be very disappointed. and you will be really disappointed when it's over, because Fulmer ain't going no where for winning 8 or 9 games in a given year.

not saying i agree with it...but it's the truth.
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jake with fulmer i'm expecting 7 or 8 wins from now on. there is no hope. he will not win another SEC crown here at tennessee.
 
#48
#48
champyvol said:
jake with fulmer i'm expecting 7 or 8 wins from now on. there is no hope. he will not win another SEC crown here at tennessee.
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i'm not ready to say that. but i'm also not ready to say that CPF is fine and there's no issues. he's not, there are. next season though isn't what will matter to me. the two/three years after that though, we should win an SEC title at least once, regardless of who's coaching.
 
#49
#49
What would you guys take. Phil wins the SEC championship this year, and he goes 6 more years without wining, or have a mediocre year next year and have a new coach (we are going to assume worth the money we will pay him) and take the chance?

Just saying I would take the chance.
 
#50
#50
You negavols are starting to sound a lot like Ole Miss fans...shame on you.

The only thing that pushes Fulmer out is a loosing season or health reasons. That said, I am expecting a very competitive season next year with us in the mix with FL for a trip to ATL. I'll have a much better off season than the ones hoping for a loosing record.
 
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