Oh ****!

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#26
Being too near sighted would just worrying about ourselves.

nbakerld said:
This is the problem. We are too near-sighted. When I say we can't afford this, I mean that we already have approx. $1.6 trillion worth of debt from wars in the last decade. 10% of our national debt is from Afghanistan and Iraq. Let's just add this one to the credit card.

Who cares about a "primary factor"? We need to cut spending in ALL areas.
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utvolpj said:
if Syria is important enough for the Pres to interrupt his vacation to talk about then why isn't the US economy and jobs? How is Syria directly affecting the US economic problems?
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It's a global competition for jobs. People now compete globally for positions. Corporations go for quality and value when hiring. The us is not prepared to compete for jobs in a global economy.
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Vols520 said:
It's a global competition for jobs. People now compete globally for positions. Corporations go for quality and value when hiring. The us is not prepared to compete for jobs in a global economy.
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That's not why he's calling for regime change
 
#32
#32
His thinks the president shouldn't comment on any other subject other than the economy. That doesn't mean the Prez is wrong on the issue
 
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Vols520 said:
It's inevitable at some point another huge war. It's hard to say mind our business when the dude is just killin innocents.

Timing sucks though.
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utvolpj said:
of course he's a hypocrite but most are when they comment on things they don't fully understand. I'm just getting tired of all this worrying about other countries when our own is turning to crap. You are the POTUS- worry about the US and then fix the rest of the world
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I actually agree with both points...... if that's possible.
 
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this is the same Bashar Assad that was called a reformer less than 6 months ago by Hillary Clinton and others in this administration?

crack a few eggs and you go from reformer to tyrant, go figure :)
 
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MG1968 said:
thank you, gibbs jr.
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Actually, I'm using information from the MSM. I don't think that's very Gibbsian.

In researching the question I stumbled onto Reason's take on the matter. Matt Welch is very reliable, IMO, and he refutes the number and the study claiming 576,000. This doesn't mean that there weren't innocent deaths. Undoubtedly, there were. But the 576,000 number is greatly exaggerated according to him. Even so, it upsets me just the same if it's 5,000 dead. Sanctions do nothing to remove tyrants from power. It mostly hurts the common man stuck under his rule.

The Politics of Dead Children - Reason Magazine
 
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again, it was the actions of the Saddam Hussein regime that led to those deaths.

All Iraq had to do was abide by the agreed-to provisions established by the UN cease fire resolution in 1991, instead they sought to undermine the oil-for-food through back door deals with various European countries. Regardless, billions of dollars poured into Iraq, money which could have been used to feed the children, but Hussein and the Baath party enriched themselves.
 
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MG1968 said:
again, it was the actions of the Saddam Hussein regime that led to those deaths.

All Iraq had to do was abide by the agreed-to provisions established by the UN cease fire resolution in 1991, instead they sought to undermine the oil-for-food through back door deals with various European countries. Regardless, billions of dollars poured into Iraq, money which could have been used to feed the children, but Hussein and the Baath party enriched themselves.
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So when the UN says, "Abide by this or we'll allow people to starve." all the blame goes on Sadaam? I disagree.
 
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nbakerld said:
So when the UN says, "Abide by this or we'll allow people to starve." all the blame goes on Sadaam? I disagree.
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It's almost like you don't know he mowed over a neighbor and threatened to take over the most oil rich country in the world.
 
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nbakerld said:
So when the UN says, "Abide by this or we'll allow people to starve." all the blame goes on Sadaam? I disagree.
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Are all the deaths suffered by Germany in WWII the result of Hitler's actions or are they the Allies' fault for not letting him have what he wanted? We MUST have some level of law and order in the world. You are taking the libertarian view to anarchic levels. Your logic is grossly flawed in this case.
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#50
we went to war under bush jr because they took oil of the us dollar (all about the petro) in exchange for the food program.

we invaded and change it back.

this war is over money too.

sickening huh
 
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