Texas A&M coming to the SEC????

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TrueOrange said:
So, wouldnt 9 (instead of 8) conference games solve some of this issue?The teams went at least a decade with only being able to schedule 3 OOC games, shouldnt be that hard to give up a western Kentucky each year when teams already schedule 3-4
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that's the only thing that makes sense
 
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vol66 said:
Without getting into how the SEC would be divided...Getting into the Dallas/Ft. Worth TV market is the driving force for the SEC in this. As for recruiting, something that isin't being mentioned is who will Texas play if they go independent? Notre Dame has a tradition with the Big Ten schools and the Big East, because of the other sports. What does Texas have? The conference hates them, A&M, OU, Tech, none of them feel the need to keep their rivalries alive if it means playing ball with LHN/Espn.

In the short term Texas will be fine, long term is a different story. If the the SEC gets into Texas and Texas ends up like Notre Dame the last 10 years or so, well, they'll be plenty of kids like Santos that prefer the SEC brand.
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Also....you are aware that in the last decade notre dame's been to 3 BCS bowls along with another 10 win season, right? They had a rough patch due to some poor hirings, but theyre hardly tailing off, especially because of their independent status

(NOTE: pointing out that independence being a long term hindrance to a school is incorrect;.....not that "omg notre dame is the best team ever and I want to marry them!")

(and if that's tailing off for you...I really don't want to hear you talk about our last decade)
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UTCVol said:
LSU-Ole Miss is probably the biggest one.
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Well if they're not that strongly tied to the other teams, perhaps everyone's thinking of this wrong. instead of trying to figure out what to do with Alabama or auburn, why not think about moving around either ole miss and miss St. I guess Ole miss could be moved east w/ lsu and/or miss St set as yearly games depending on the new system.....::however what might be better is to move miss St east and make ole miss they're yearly cross rival (ole miss loses nothing here because their previous cross-division constant was vandy....I kinda doubt there are too strong ties there)

That or just move vandy west, make UT one of 2 yearly cross-divisional opponents in a 9-10 game conference schedule and push either miss/miss St into the east or, perhaps somewhat better, just push both auburn and Alabama into the east

Just throwing some ideas or possibilities out there
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#557
#557
The Aggies are posting on other sites that AM has apparently confirmed the move to the SEC and will make the announcement before Sept. 1.
 
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#558
"James Burford

Breaking news : from SBNation Texas A&M ~ I was told that A&M will make an announcement that they will leave the Big 12 and join SEC some time before September 1st. So much for waiting until the spring."
 
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I don't see how adding the four teams that seem to be brought up the most (Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Missouri) really changes anything for us that much besides making it even tougher to get to the SEC championship game. It would move Alabama and Auburn to the east which would make the Alabama game even more important as well as renew an old rivalry with Auburn. Also, it places Auburn and Georgia in the same conference so it doesn't effect that one either. I would think you would play everyone in you division and play one team from the other division on a home and home rotating schedule. Here is what the divisions would look like:

East

Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

West

Arkansas
LSU
Missouri
Miss. State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
 
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Volstylexx said:
"James Burford

Breaking news : from SBNation Texas A&M ~ I was told that A&M will make an announcement that they will leave the Big 12 and join SEC some time before September 1st. So much for waiting until the spring."
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who's james burford?
 
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UTC Vol Fan said:
I don't see how adding the four teams that seem to be brought up the most (Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Missouri) really changes anything for us that much besides making it even tougher to get to the SEC championship game. It would move Alabama and Auburn to the east which would make the Alabama game even more important as well as renew an old rivalry with Auburn. Also, it places Auburn and Georgia in the same conference so it doesn't effect that one either. I would think you would play everyone in you division and play one team from the other division on a home and home rotating schedule. Here is what the divisions would look like:

East West
Alabama Arkansas
Auburn LSU
Georgia Missouri
Florida Miss. State
Kentucky Oklahoma
South Carolina Oklahoma St.
Tennessee Ole Miss
Vanderbilt Texas A&M
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I'm starting to think any 14-16 option should just have auburn and bama move east really
 
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TrueOrange said:
I'm starting to think any 14-16 option should just have auburn and bama move east really
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I actually like the look of it, it really only adds Auburn to the schedule from what we play now. Both divisions are tough and people talking about travel, none of those west division schools seem to be all that far away from each other.
 
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Volstylexx said:
"James Burford

Breaking news : from SBNation Texas A&M ~ I was told that A&M will make an announcement that they will leave the Big 12 and join SEC some time before September 1st. So much for waiting until the spring."
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I don't know why, but this whole topic has been madly fascinating to me. I really like the idea of A&M in the SEC. Maybe it is because they were a team I grew up respecting, and I think they fit the "mold" throwing aside the whole geography thing. When it comes to culture, though, Texas is a southern as any state in the SEC. Much more southern than Florida even.
 
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vol66 said:
Without getting into how the SEC would be divided...Getting into the Dallas/Ft. Worth TV market is the driving force for the SEC in this. As for recruiting, something that isin't being mentioned is who will Texas play if they go independent? Notre Dame has a tradition with the Big Ten schools and the Big East, because of the other sports. What does Texas have? The conference hates them, A&M, OU, Tech, none of them feel the need to keep their rivalries alive if it means playing ball with LHN/Espn.

In the short term Texas will be fine, long term is a different story. If the the SEC gets into Texas and Texas ends up like Notre Dame the last 10 years or so, well, they'll be plenty of kids like Santos that prefer the SEC brand.
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wrong on the part with the rivalries. I want A&M to keep its rivalry with tu because it means alot to a bunch of families in the state. OU will do whatever texas ask's of them because if OU loses the Red River Rivalry, they lose a recruiting foothold in texas. OU will get maybe a few recruits in texas if they stop play tu, but they wont be able to survive off it like they do now. also tech will do whatever texas ask's of them. last year when the Pac16 was about to go down, there was a tiny problem. Tech. Tech doesnt bring that much to the table. No football history, horrible in most other sports, not that big of an alumni following and their academics are horrible. tech will stay by tu's side until they land safely in a conference.
 
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If SEC expands to 16, a decent idea would be to split into 4 divisions. Then the schedule would for example be 3 division games, and then 2 rotating from each of the other 3 divisions. Although that would be 9 conference games plus however the SEC championship game would be determined.

For example would have something like:
East: SC, Florida, Tenn, UGA
South: Auburn, Bama, Ole Miss, Miss St.
West: LSU, OK, OKst, Texas A&M
North: Vandy, Kentucky, Ark, Missouri

Obviously would still have to figure out details on Championship as well as dividing the teams up. That set up for example, North would be a joke while East and West would be brutal. Interesting idea though.
 
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tvolsfan said:
They sucked a while ago and they still got whoever they wanted.

Those kids want to play for Texas.
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wrong. in the 90's all the top kids were going to A&M, then tu got Mack and RC started to decline. A&M used to be the go to school in the 90's. now texas is the go to school. it will change soon enough though.
 
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gordonr24 said:
I saw that as well in a report and in that same report, there was a quick mention that if A&M joins the SEC, the SEC would then set it's sights on getting FSU to join the SEC. I'll try to find the link.
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If all of this happens, we can forget about ever winning the SEC again. Jmo, but I think it's a fact.
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NeylandArmy said:
I don't know why, but this whole topic has been madly fascinating to me. I really like the idea of A&M in the SEC. Maybe it is because they were a team I grew up respecting, and I think they fit the "mold" throwing aside the whole geography thing. When it comes to culture, though, Texas is a southern as any state in the SEC. Much more southern than Florida even.
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yeah the state pretty much is.


oddly enough, so is most of the state of missouri....though the more i think about it, the more it makes sense considering it's borders and history wise (just get thrown off by that "Gateway to the West"title it was given, really)
 
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Texas Aggie said:
they earliest it can happen is August 22nd, when A&M has a board of Regents meeting.
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ok so that's where the august 23rd date was coming from

then again, since last night message boards have been murmuring that date due to the ESPN report and it being the next closest meeting
 
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