Suck it up fair weather fans

#76
#76
vavol87 said:
my accusation of bringing in a new coach and not recieving instant gratification?? How many coaches do you know that come into a job and instantly win championships? 5-6 to 9-4 why don't you let this trend atleast turn and head the other direction before you make any calls!! apparently i'm right on this one to cause i'll bet money on it that hes on the sidelines come next september
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That maybe so and I would hope that if this same scenario should happen you would be the first to order a plate of crow. There have been numerous times when coaches take over a team and get more from the players than the previous coach maybe not championships in the first year,but better effort and I think that is what we ALL would like to see around here...

BETTER EFFORT CONSISTENTLY!!!!!!!
 
#77
#77
allvol123 said:
Yea, it all came down to one play?
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so your telling me if we didn't punch that possession in that we wouldn't have had the momentum? face it if we took that end it was over. and by the way your phasing away from what you said on another thread about the fumbles being fulmers fault for not preparing them
 
#80
#80
charley that quote that you made above with my name on it is not what i said so i don't know why you typed that in there
 
#82
#82
I an era where coaches are graded by national championship. Fulmer is all most a legend.

Joe Paterno - 2 NC in 55 years
Fulmer - 1 NC in 15 years
 
#83
#83
A little ironic that my first post after the loss today is in a "fair-weather fans" thread, but here goes.

First, the point made early on about posters on this site not being "fair-weather" is, obviously, dead-on. "Fair-weather" means ceasing to care or changing allegiances after a team stops winning. Those who post religiously here and elsewhere are anything but that. I'm not saying that I agree with everyone all, or even most, of the time -- but everyone is free to share opinions and (yes) criticisms.

On to the game. . . . To start, this is just another ending of a season that will leave a bad taste in my mouth for a long time, a feeling that has become all too familiar. We looked unprepared and unmotivated, and, at times, poorly coached. No, Cutcliffe doesn't carry the ball, but he coaches to PROTECT it. No, Fulmer doesn't field punts, but he coaches to NOT fair-catch them on the 3. Trooper doesn't catch passes, but he coaches Meachem to. How do we make these serious mistakes on such a huge stage? How do we get a delay-of-game on 4th and 9 -- costing us a chance to make a late run at the Lions? How do we get gashed up the middle time and time again? Why can't we run the dang ball? Eventually, you have to look at the leadership of the team, because it's THEIR JOB (and they get paid an awful lot of money to do it).

Do some of us have higher expectations than getting beat (again) in a lesser bowl than we should accept by an inferior team? Yep. But I, for one, fair to see how this makes us "less" of a fan. That's like saying that Tiger being upset about missing a cut makes him less of a golfer. I would argue that the opposite is actually the case.

As I've stated multiple times, we should demand an appearance in Atlanta every 3 years, win half of those, and hit a BCS bowl at least every 5.
 
#84
#84
kiddiedoc said:
A little ironic that my first post after the loss today is in a "fair-weather fans" thread, but here goes.

First, the point made early on about posters on this site not being "fair-weather" is, obviously, dead-on. "Fair-weather" means ceasing to care or changing allegiances after a team stops winning. Those who post religiously here and elsewhere are anything but that. I'm not saying that I agree with everyone all, or even most, of the time -- but everyone is free to share opinions and (yes) criticisms.

On to the game. . . . To start, this is just another ending of a season that will leave a bad taste in my mouth for a long time, a feeling that has become all too familiar. We looked unprepared and unmotivated, and, at times, poorly coached. No, Cutcliffe doesn't carry the ball, but he coaches to PROTECT it. No, Fulmer doesn't field punts, but he coaches to NOT fair-catch them on the 3. Trooper doesn't catch passes, but he coaches Meachem to. How do we make these serious mistakes on such a huge stage? How do we get a delay-of-game on 4th and 9 -- costing us a chance to make a late run at the Lions? How do we get gashed up the middle time and time again? Why can't we run the dang ball? Eventually, you have to look at the leadership of the team, because it's THEIR JOB (and they get paid an awful lot of money to do it).

Do some of us have higher expectations than getting beat (again) in a lesser bowl than we should accept by an inferior team? Yep. But I, for one, fair to see how this makes us "less" of a fan. That's like saying that Tiger being upset about missing a cut makes him less of a golfer. I would argue that the opposite is actually the case.

As I've stated multiple times, we should demand an appearance in Atlanta every 3 years, win half of those, and hit a BCS bowl at least every 5.
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Excellent, excellent post! :rock:
 
#85
#85
kiddiedoc said:
A little ironic that my first post after the loss today is in a "fair-weather fans" thread, but here goes.

First, the point made early on about posters on this site not being "fair-weather" is, obviously, dead-on. "Fair-weather" means ceasing to care or changing allegiances after a team stops winning. Those who post religiously here and elsewhere are anything but that. I'm not saying that I agree with everyone all, or even most, of the time -- but everyone is free to share opinions and (yes) criticisms.

On to the game. . . . To start, this is just another ending of a season that will leave a bad taste in my mouth for a long time, a feeling that has become all too familiar. We looked unprepared and unmotivated, and, at times, poorly coached. No, Cutcliffe doesn't carry the ball, but he coaches to PROTECT it. No, Fulmer doesn't field punts, but he coaches to NOT fair-catch them on the 3. Trooper doesn't catch passes, but he coaches Meachem to. How do we make these serious mistakes on such a huge stage? How do we get a delay-of-game on 4th and 9 -- costing us a chance to make a late run at the Lions? How do we get gashed up the middle time and time again? Why can't we run the dang ball? Eventually, you have to look at the leadership of the team, because it's THEIR JOB (and they get paid an awful lot of money to do it).

Do some of us have higher expectations than getting beat (again) in a lesser bowl than we should accept by an inferior team? Yep. But I, for one, fair to see how this makes us "less" of a fan. That's like saying that Tiger being upset about missing a cut makes him less of a golfer. I would argue that the opposite is actually the case.

As I've stated multiple times, we should demand an appearance in Atlanta every 3 years, win half of those, and hit a BCS bowl at least every 5.
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damn kiddie you are smart and wise good post.
 
#86
#86
kiddiedoc said:
A little ironic that my first post after the loss today is in a "fair-weather fans" thread, but here goes.

First, the point made early on about posters on this site not being "fair-weather" is, obviously, dead-on. "Fair-weather" means ceasing to care or changing allegiances after a team stops winning. Those who post religiously here and elsewhere are anything but that. I'm not saying that I agree with everyone all, or even most, of the time -- but everyone is free to share opinions and (yes) criticisms.

On to the game. . . . To start, this is just another ending of a season that will leave a bad taste in my mouth for a long time, a feeling that has become all too familiar. We looked unprepared and unmotivated, and, at times, poorly coached. No, Cutcliffe doesn't carry the ball, but he coaches to PROTECT it. No, Fulmer doesn't field punts, but he coaches to NOT fair-catch them on the 3. Trooper doesn't catch passes, but he coaches Meachem to. How do we make these serious mistakes on such a huge stage? How do we get a delay-of-game on 4th and 9 -- costing us a chance to make a late run at the Lions? How do we get gashed up the middle time and time again? Why can't we run the dang ball? Eventually, you have to look at the leadership of the team, because it's THEIR JOB (and they get paid an awful lot of money to do it).

Do some of us have higher expectations than getting beat (again) in a lesser bowl than we should accept by an inferior team? Yep. But I, for one, fair to see how this makes us "less" of a fan. That's like saying that Tiger being upset about missing a cut makes him less of a golfer. I would argue that the opposite is actually the case.

As I've stated multiple times, we should demand an appearance in Atlanta every 3 years, win half of those, and hit a BCS bowl at least every 5.
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Excellent Post! I completely agree! :clapping:
 
#87
#87
kiddiedoc said:
A little ironic that my first post after the loss today is in a "fair-weather fans" thread, but here goes.

First, the point made early on about posters on this site not being "fair-weather" is, obviously, dead-on. "Fair-weather" means ceasing to care or changing allegiances after a team stops winning. Those who post religiously here and elsewhere are anything but that. I'm not saying that I agree with everyone all, or even most, of the time -- but everyone is free to share opinions and (yes) criticisms.

On to the game. . . . To start, this is just another ending of a season that will leave a bad taste in my mouth for a long time, a feeling that has become all too familiar. We looked unprepared and unmotivated, and, at times, poorly coached. No, Cutcliffe doesn't carry the ball, but he coaches to PROTECT it. No, Fulmer doesn't field punts, but he coaches to NOT fair-catch them on the 3. Trooper doesn't catch passes, but he coaches Meachem to. How do we make these serious mistakes on such a huge stage? How do we get a delay-of-game on 4th and 9 -- costing us a chance to make a late run at the Lions? How do we get gashed up the middle time and time again? Why can't we run the dang ball? Eventually, you have to look at the leadership of the team, because it's THEIR JOB (and they get paid an awful lot of money to do it).

Do some of us have higher expectations than getting beat (again) in a lesser bowl than we should accept by an inferior team? Yep. But I, for one, fair to see how this makes us "less" of a fan. That's like saying that Tiger being upset about missing a cut makes him less of a golfer. I would argue that the opposite is actually the case.

As I've stated multiple times, we should demand an appearance in Atlanta every 3 years, win half of those, and hit a BCS bowl at least every 5.
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Post of the day!:rock:
 
#89
#89
blaker024 said:
yeah. i agree. its the outback bowl, who cares. If it was the championship game it would matter, but it wasnt.
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i care. it sucks to lose no matter what. the last time i checked the real fans always care about each and every game ut plays.....
 
#90
#90
Look on the bright side, by now Fulmer has mastered the disappointing postseason lockerroom speech. Hey sophomores, at least you got to go to a bowl game! There's a decent chance you'll win a really crappy bowl before you graduate!
 
#91
#91
First, let me begin by saying that I have lurked on this board for sometime. I very much enjoy the posts, ideas, thoughts, etc. It was only after watching the game today that I decided to throw my hat into this ring.

Going back to when we played Kansas State in the Cotton bowl, I see a lack of excitement in our team as a whole. Poor discipline, lack of motivation, careless mistakes and miscues, losing to teams we should have beaten. Throw in lackluster performances during the seasonal games to lesser and weaker opponents, barely scraping out victories against the likes of Vandy, Ky, Marshall, etc. I dont expect a NC every year, nor a SEC title every single year, no one does, for that cannot possibly happen. But what I do expect as a ticket paying customer is for our team to lay all on the line.

Somebody has to be held accountable for our sub-par performances. That accountability should begin with CPF. He may not fumble, throw an INT, etc. But he is nonetheless a part of the TEAM. He is the TEAM CEO and leader. The buck must stop with him. He is the general of the outfit. He should be the Patton, the McArthur, the man that the players want to fight for, to give their all for. Evidently, that is not what is happening now, nor has it happened for the last few years. We are not a disciplined team, and we have not been disciplined for some time. There is no spirit in our team as a whole. Somebody needs to light a fire under our teams' behind and get back to playing with some vigor as a whole and complete unit.

Our HS coach demanded respect, accountability, and 100% of our heart, soul, mind, and strength. He always reminded us of what Vince Lombardi once said, and we had it hung on the wall in the locker room:
"
Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

We also had another saying on the wall by Lombardi:

"But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, his greatest fulfillment of all he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious".

Our coach lived by this Lombardi rule:

"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate"

Evidently, our present staff is lacking. Its time for a housecleaning!
 
#92
#92
kiddiedoc said:
A little ironic that my first post after the loss today is in a "fair-weather fans" thread, but here goes.

First, the point made early on about posters on this site not being "fair-weather" is, obviously, dead-on. "Fair-weather" means ceasing to care or changing allegiances after a team stops winning. Those who post religiously here and elsewhere are anything but that. I'm not saying that I agree with everyone all, or even most, of the time -- but everyone is free to share opinions and (yes) criticisms.

On to the game. . . . To start, this is just another ending of a season that will leave a bad taste in my mouth for a long time, a feeling that has become all too familiar. We looked unprepared and unmotivated, and, at times, poorly coached. No, Cutcliffe doesn't carry the ball, but he coaches to PROTECT it. No, Fulmer doesn't field punts, but he coaches to NOT fair-catch them on the 3. Trooper doesn't catch passes, but he coaches Meachem to. How do we make these serious mistakes on such a huge stage? How do we get a delay-of-game on 4th and 9 -- costing us a chance to make a late run at the Lions? How do we get gashed up the middle time and time again? Why can't we run the dang ball? Eventually, you have to look at the leadership of the team, because it's THEIR JOB (and they get paid an awful lot of money to do it).

Do some of us have higher expectations than getting beat (again) in a lesser bowl than we should accept by an inferior team? Yep. But I, for one, fair to see how this makes us "less" of a fan. That's like saying that Tiger being upset about missing a cut makes him less of a golfer. I would argue that the opposite is actually the case.

As I've stated multiple times, we should demand an appearance in Atlanta every 3 years, win half of those, and hit a BCS bowl at least every 5.
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Nice. Nice. Great words my man, Great words.
 
#93
#93
undertakervol said:
First, let me begin by saying that I have lurked on this board for sometime. I very much enjoy the posts, ideas, thoughts, etc. It was only after watching the game today that I decided to throw my hat into this ring.

Going back to when we played Kansas State in the Cotton bowl, I see a lack of excitement in our team as a whole. Poor discipline, lack of motivation, careless mistakes and miscues, losing to teams we should have beaten. Throw in lackluster performances during the seasonal games to lesser and weaker opponents, barely scraping out victories against the likes of Vandy, Ky, Marshall, etc. I dont expect a NC every year, nor a SEC title every single year, no one does, for that cannot possibly happen. But what I do expect as a ticket paying customer is for our team to lay all on the line.

Somebody has to be held accountable for our sub-par performances. That accountability should begin with CPF. He may not fumble, throw an INT, etc. But he is nonetheless a part of the TEAM. He is the TEAM CEO and leader. The buck must stop with him. He is the general of the outfit. He should be the Patton, the McArthur, the man that the players want to fight for, to give their all for. Evidently, that is not what is happening now, nor has it happened for the last few years. We are not a disciplined team, and we have not been disciplined for some time. There is no spirit in our team as a whole. Somebody needs to light a fire under our teams' behind and get back to playing with some vigor as a whole and complete unit.

Our HS coach demanded respect, accountability, and 100% of our heart, soul, mind, and strength. He always reminded us of what Vince Lombardi once said, and we had it hung on the wall in the locker room:
"
Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

We also had another saying on the wall by Lombardi:

"But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, his greatest fulfillment of all he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious".

Our coach lived by this Lombardi rule:

"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate"

Evidently, our present staff is lacking. Its time for a housecleaning!
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Well said. Welcome to Volnation! It's good to have another voice of reason to help counter all of this rah-rah stuff.
 
#94
#94
Well I have tried to refrain because so much has already been said, but here goes anyway. I hate losing, and yes, the bowl games do mean something, whether some of you want to admit it or not. How does another year out of the Top 25 sound? Sure we held PSU to 7 points, but still we made their offense look great, an offense that hasnt done much of anything all year. Our "potent" offense with our "big play" receivers looked uninspired and flat and most of the time out of sync. Our offense seems to have a very limited playbook for some reason. Let me say why Im mad and then Ill shut up and look forward to 2007. It was obvious that we threw in the towel after the fumble return. We may be fast, but we are not near as physical as we have been in the past. If you didnt notice, watch the replay and you will see our defense trying to arm tackle because they didnt want to hit Hunt. His post game comments were arrogant, but true. And as soon as our game was over, every announcer on the other games started questioning "just how tough is the SEC?" I am not mad, just disappointed. It just didnt seem to me that our guys were very inspired, maybe Im wrong and just searching for some excuse as to why we cant win these games. Oh well.:banghead2:
 
#95
#95
blaker024 said:
yeah. i agree. its the outback bowl, who cares. If it was the championship game it would matter, but it wasnt.
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Outback bowl was part of it... The outback bowl is what we lost... Fulmer would deserve a lot of credit if we made it to the NC, but he lost three games, had a month to prepare for a mediocre bowl with penn state, and the team came out flat... No one wants that anymore.
 
#96
#96
These..........

"Rah Rah Go Vols I'm a the biggest fan in the world even if we go 0-12, I'm the real fan and anyone who questions anything about the program is only fair weather"

....are stupid and close minded. Your the best fan in the world because you blindly follow and have no qualms with our uninspired lackluster preformance yesterday. MMMMMMKay.
 
#97
#97
Business said:
These..........

"Rah Rah Go Vols I'm a the biggest fan in the world even if we go 0-12, I'm the real fan and anyone who questions anything about the program is only fair weather"

....are stupid and close minded. Your the best fan in the world because you blindly follow and have no qualms with our uninspired lackluster preformance yesterday. MMMMMMKay.
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Yeah, don't you just love these SuperFans?
:superman:

It's gets ridiculous after awhile.
 
#98
#98
Business said:
These..........

"Rah Rah Go Vols I'm a the biggest fan in the world even if we go 0-12, I'm the real fan and anyone who questions anything about the program is only fair weather"

....are stupid and close minded. Your the best fan in the world because you blindly follow and have no qualms with our uninspired lackluster preformance yesterday. MMMMMMKay.
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That's the reason why we will continue to be mediocre while the rest of the confrence continues to improve.
 
#99
#99
9 and 4...... From what the mighty Fulmer Fans said pregame, you would have thought that a 10 win season was certain. I am tired of hearing how great Fulmer is and that he is the only person who can coach and recruit to UT. There are at least 10 coaches out there who could coach UT to a 9 win season.

I am not saying to fire him at this point. However, we need to see some freakin results on the field. I want to see the Vols win an SEC championship within the next two years. I am tired of all the excuses. Every team has unexpected injuries, bad calls by referees, the NFL draft, etc.

However, I do not expect that Tennessee under Fulmer will win another SEC championship. that being said unless the vols have 2 losing seasons back to back he is here until he retires.

9 and 4 is not a great season, it is mediocre and the raise idea should be trashed.
 
#100
#100
volswitten1 said:
Quit the crying over the loss. No ones going to get fired. I don't know how some of you guys can consider yourself fans always putting your team and coaching staff down. We have a lot to built on in 2007
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I tend to agree with you. I do think there's a chance that Slade will be shown the door after signing day. I will say that at the Y this morning and in my workplace I am hearing a lot of people who are generally favorable to Fulmer assign him the blame for yesterday's loss.
 
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