Are we serious about a change?

#27
#27
i'm glad we improved. but are you seriously satisfied with 9-4?? i know i'm not.

9-4 in a season in which we get a chance to win another ball game. throw out the Air Force game or whatever non conference game you want and we're 8-4 like is so often the case anymore. that extra game only makes it go from really really ugly to rather ugly
 
#28
#28
Hard to argue about any tangible gain from the results of a meaningless bowl game. That is my only problem. Had this been a regular season game, I think I would be much more upset.
 
#29
#29
Hard to argue about any tangible gain from the results of a meaningless bowl game. That is my only problem. Had this been a regular season game, I think I would be much more upset.

other than it shows even w/ a month of planning our coaches still can't get it done. i think there's a lot to see. this was fulmer's chance to prove he got us back to where UT should be. to say he failed miserably is an understatement of epic proportions
 
#30
#30
Hard to argue about any tangible gain from the results of a meaningless bowl game. That is my only problem. Had this been a regular season game, I think I would be much more upset.


one of the arguments used to defend Fulmer is how tough the SEC is to win.

Apparently its tough for Fulmer to win bowl games against other conferences too. Fulmer's 2-3 in bowl games this decade.
 
#31
#31
other than it shows even w/ a month of planning our coaches still can't get it done. i think there's a lot to see. this was fulmer's chance to prove he got us back to where UT should be. to say he failed miserably is an understatement of epic proportions

You simply never know what a kid is really playing for in these games. I agree the team did not look prepared. I simply think that if your goal is a BCS game and you wind up in the Outback Bowl there is little a coach can do to get you excited about the game. A coach has little or no leverage, especially with outgoing seniors. Believe me, if I felt I could blame this all on CPF I would be the first one in line.
 
#32
#32
You simply never know what a kid is really playing for in these games. I agree the team did not look prepared. I simply think that if your goal is a BCS game and you wind up in the Outback Bowl there is little a coach can do to get you excited about the game. A coach has little or no leverage, especially with outgoing seniors. Believe me, if I felt I could blame this all on CPF I would be the first one in line.

JoePa got his boys ready to play. and that's w/ a bad leg! I just can't buy that. It makes sense, but i see so many other coaches successful in whatever bowl game they play.
 
#33
#33
I'm serious about staying the hell away from this board. FOR A LONG TIME. It's nuts that all these supposed fans have NOTHING positive to say about the program even with the great improvement over last year as well as the fact that these players (offensively anyway) are operating under a new coach and system. Add to that our injuries and I think we did a heck of a job. Thank God the team doesn't WHINE like all these "fans". See you next year.:mf_surrender:

I liked the improvement. I'm upset that 9-4 is improvement. Make sense?
 
#34
#34
Seriously not all 104,000 game day fans feel that way. If they expanded it by 20,000 more seats the place would fill. Its Tennessee football.
How much longer will we rest on that laurel? Yes us fans will continue to fill the seats (I personally will continue to drive my 7 hours twice a year to see and experience a Tennessee gameday) in the same breath I will continue to express my discontent at the fact we are stuck in a rut and need to get out of it no matter what it takes. Face it loyalty today depends on production. and he is not producing! If it werent for an Arkansas fumble in 98 then no one could use that year as an excuse.
 
#35
#35
How much longer will we rest on that laurel? Yes us fans will continue to fill the seats (I personally will continue to drive my 7 hours twice a year to see and experience a Tennessee gameday) in the same breath I will continue to express my discontent at the fact we are stuck in a rut and need to get out of it no matter what it takes. Face it loyalty today depends on production. and he is not producing! If it werent for an Arkansas fumble in 98 then no one could use that year as an excuse.

If it weren't for a Arian Foster fumble today, no one would be angry and delusional right now.
 
#36
#36
if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. what's your point? either way we should've scored more than 10 measly points, fumble or no fumble
 
#37
#37
He used a fumble in an instance where it helped us, I used one where it hurt us. If he wants to use ifs and buts, so can I.
 
#38
#38
How many of us are willing to quit filling the seats at Neyland Stadium every Sat.?

Until 110,000 people quit going to every game and using their money to pay Phil's salary, no change will ever be made. What kind of message are we sending??

i'm done. i went to a lifetime low 2 games this year and untill there are some real changes made i won't be attending anymore games. whats the use it's not like we are going to win anything anyway. it's the reason i returned my season tix last season. we lose to all the good teams at home. i'll spend the extra money going to watch the b-ball vols and coach pearl. atleast they care. they want to get better. we are a basketball school now anyway.:rock:
 
#40
#40
i'm done. i went to a lifetime low 2 games this year and untill there are some real changes made i won't be attending anymore games. whats the use it's not like we are going to win anything anyway. it's the reason i returned my season tix last season. we lose to all the good teams at home. i'll spend the extra money going to watch the b-ball vols and coach pearl. atleast they care. they want to get better. we are a basketball school now anyway.:rock:

we are quickly becoming a bball school.
 
#41
#41
I find it hard to believe champ is not going to anymore games! Real good fan you are to by the way... Fairweather :eek:hmy: cough
 
#42
#42
I find it hard to believe champ is not going to anymore games! Real good fan you are to by the way... Fairweather :eek:hmy: cough

if you feel like going to a game and flushing your money down the toilet that up to you. i'll stay in the parking lot where the beer is cold and after we lose it isn't such a long walk to the car.
 
#43
#43
games for me are free.. or tied in to tuition!! and i'll continue to go to away games cause so far i'm 2-0 against usc and georgia!! and paying the 50$ was worth seeing those cock and dawg fans faces after the game!!
 
#44
#44
games for me are free.. or tied in to tuition!! and i'll continue to go to away games cause so far i'm 2-0 against usc and georgia!! and paying the 50$ was worth seeing those cock and dawg fans faces after the game!!

we lost to Georgia and SC in 05. they were probably thinking the samething
 
#47
#47
Yeah we did!! But i think we lost to ourselves more than them.. Turnovers kill a team and their momentum and thats not the coaches fault
 
#49
#49
Yeah we did!! But i think we lost to ourselves more than them.. Turnovers kill a team and their momentum and thats not the coaches fault

our team didn't show up, they were not motivated. that is the coaches fault
 
#50
#50
You simply never know what a kid is really playing for in these games. I agree the team did not look prepared. I simply think that if your goal is a BCS game and you wind up in the Outback Bowl there is little a coach can do to get you excited about the game. A coach has little or no leverage, especially with outgoing seniors. Believe me, if I felt I could blame this all on CPF I would be the first one in line.

It's too bad that conferences are tied into bowls. For two teams, one ranked 17th and the other unranked, to play on Jan 1, is pathetic. Neither of these teams deserved national exposure.

That said, congrats Penn State! :good!:
 
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