Tennessee not an Attractive Job(article)

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#76
Bruce made 2.4 million when Dooly was hired in? How much did Dooley start out with? Pretty sure thats the end of the discussion for the guy saying a basketball coach won't make more than a football coach. Tennessee understands who brings the bucks in but also understand you can not compare the two salaries obviously.

And to the article, complete trash! In the "What have you done for me lately" world we live in, who has had a more successful program as of lately? UT, NCState, Arkansas, or Tech? Kids want to win and go to the NBA. Also, some kids look at academics believe it or not. Wasn't that a main reason Tobias chose UT over everybody else?
 
#77
#77
Tennessee is every bit as attractive as any other job that is available right now.

Others have more history and tradition, but we have better resources and facilities.
 
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KingNick865 said:
They had Jimmy Dykes on The Herd this morning.

Said that Tennessee has the best facilities in all of college basketball.
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he also said that we might have trouble getting a good coach because of possilble NCAA penalties. then he recommended that we Hire Bobby Knight (please tell me this is not an option)
 
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jp1 said:
so how do you suppose he won then? He had crap talent and couldnt develop that crap talent according to you. So whats the story? The man lied,committed infractions, evidently cheated on his wife...etc etc...use all of the above if that makes you happy but do not argue against the mans coaching ability like it appears that you are doing because he simply won a majority of the games he coached. Im done with this argument...i hope tennessee gets a good replacement that cant recruit or develop talent if they win like the last 6 years.
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+1,000,000,000
 
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XIVolNinjaIX said:
Instability in the Athletic Dept., players and recruits defecting, and looming NCAA sanctions, are not that attractive to potential big time coaches. Add to that, a not so great recruiting base and the fact that most of these high profile guys can hold out for another big program that will surely need a coach soon, and I would say our chances aren't that great to get a big time coach. We will go back to an up and comer if I had to guess.
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Name a big time job out there that is currently looking for a new coach or that has one on the hot seat?
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Dumb. The line about how people may care more about the Lady Vols than the men's if the Lady Vols are doing well and the "above average" facilities was just ignorant.
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The idea that people care more about the LV is just stupid.
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VolsSportsFan said:
The idea that people care more about the LV is just stupid.
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That's the national perception, regardless of how accurate it is. They know about the Lady Vols in Bristol, Connecticut, so they assume people in Knoxville care more about them than a generally underperforming men's program. Just because it's crap doesn't keep them from assuming it.

That's the assumption that you'd figure most prospective coaches who don't know much about Tennessee would start with, too.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
That's the national perception, regardless of how accurate it is. They know about the Lady Vols in Bristol, Connecticut, so they assume people in Knoxville care more about them than a generally underperforming men's program. Just because it's crap doesn't keep them from assuming it.

That's the assumption that you'd figure most prospective coaches who don't know much about Tennessee would start with, too.
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Was he trying to say he thinks more would care about a good women's team than a good men's team? Because that's ridiculous. Even if the men's team is bad, I don't believe women's basketball is a bigger deal here, but saying the women's game is bigger when the men's team is good is shameful journalism.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Was he trying to say he thinks more would care about a good women's team than a good men's team? Because that's ridiculous.
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That was basically what I was trying to say. The last 6 years definitely prove that wrong.
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tvolsfan said:
Was he trying to say he thinks more would care about a good women's team than a good men's team? Because that's ridiculous.
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The prevalent national opinion about men's basketball at Tennessee has always been that it's a tough job because it's "overshadowed" by football and women's basketball -- by which they mean that football and women's BB are frequently national stories, but men's BB rarely has been. They then jump to the conclusion that Tennessee fans actually care more about women's BB than men's. Which is crap, of course, but that's what the national media assumes.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The prevalent national opinion about men's basketball at Tennessee has always been that it's a tough job because it's "overshadowed" by football and women's basketball -- by which they mean that football and women's BB are frequently national stories, but men's BB rarely has been. They then jump to the conclusion that Tennessee fans actually care more about women's BB than men's. Which is crap, of course, but that's what the national media assumes.
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To me, it always seemed like people think UT is proud of the Lady Vols' success, but I personally haven't gotten the opinion that outsiders believe UT cares more about the Lady Vols than the men's team. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
This is unfortunately a very well written and accurate article in my eyes.

I think we are in for some very very tough times.

Tennessee basketball in trouble post-Pearl - CBSSports.com

:cray:
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I think this article is on the money. In order for Tennessee to get even a mediocre coach to take the job I think they are going to have to give him some long term job security. Which will most likey mean we will be stuck with a loser for several years. :banghead2:
 
#93
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Vercingetorix said:
"What exactly does Tennessee offer (assuming equal money) that these schools do not? "

And there you go. "Here is a video of our awesome facilities. Here is a list of all the players we've pulled from the Atlanta area in recent years. Here is a suitcase full of money. Sure we can't fly you to Knoxville, just to look around?"

We have a $100m AD budget. Now is the time to use it to shut nimrods like this up and prove that Tennessee is serious about basketball.
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Tennessee has never been willing to pay big bucks for a basketball coach. Tennessee is a football school and they wouldn't even go after a top flight football coach with big bucks. Lets face it hiring Dooley was scraping pretty close to the bottom of the barrel resume wise. In my opinion anyone who thinks they are going to hire a big time basketball coach is dreaming. The only reason they got Pearl who had been extremely successful and is a really excellent coach was because Pearl had been blackballed. I predict that the black curtains will be back at Thompson Bolling.
 
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jerryvol44 said:
Tennessee has never been willing to pay big bucks for a basketball coach. Tennessee is a football school and they wouldn't even go after a top flight football coach with big bucks. Lets face it hiring Dooley was scraping pretty close to the bottom of the barrel resume wise. In my opinion anyone who thinks they are going to hire a big time basketball coach is dreaming. The only reason they got Pearl who had been extremely successful and is a really excellent coach was because Pearl had been blackballed. I predict that the black curtains will be back at Thompson Bolling.
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Pearl's pay says otherwise.

What were you saying about Trolls?
 
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#95
MTSUDaff said:
Disagree with everything in this article except for the obvious part about potential NCAA sanctions.

1. Who cares what Tennessee basketball was before Pearl got here? Pearl showed the country that you CAN win at Tennessee. So the mediocrity before him shouldn't scare any coach who knows they are capable of recruiting.

2. The roster does look bad coming in, but the roster wasn't stacked with All-Americans when Bruce got here, and look at what he did.

3. The line about this is a football school and anything people care about with basketball is secondary. False. It USED to be that way. After being top 5 in attendance nationally over Pearl's tenure, and from obvious conversation with other Tennessee fans over the past 6 years, it is obvious that this just is not the case anymore.

In my opinion, the only two things that are going to scare potential coaches from taking the Tenn job are the potential sanctions and the uncertainty with the AD. Unfortunately, those are two MAJOR question marks. This article was just written by some national pundit who hasn't paid any attention to the atmosphere surrounding UT bball over the past 6 years, but was asked to write up an article that is junior at best.
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I have a bridge down on Henly Street that I am in the process of remodeling. I wonder if you would be interested in buying it?
 
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tvolsfan said:
To me, it always seemed like people think UT is proud of the Lady Vols' success, but I personally haven't gotten the opinion that outsiders believe UT cares more about the Lady Vols than the men's team. Maybe I'm wrong.
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When traveling around the country, I've met people who, when they find out I'm from Tennessee, bring up football and women's basketball, but almost never men's basketball. Until Pearl was hired, and then I started hearing lots of comments like, "Wow, must be weird for you guys to be watching the men's team for a shame." That's what the national media (and therefore the nation's sports fans) think of when they think of UT: football and women's basketball. It's annoying.
 
#99
#99
SWGAVOL said:
The sky is Falling! The sky is Falling!!!



What a bunch of Chicken Littles!!!


We now have a AD who wants basketball to be successful. We will get a good coach, We will be back in the NCAA Tourny soon. Pearl did a good job and I am thankful for what he did, but he is not bigger that the program.


We will be BACK!!!!!!!!!!:dance::dance:
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I love it, obviously you haven't been paying attention to the UT basketball program for the last 40 years or so. Pearl was not bigger that the program, he was the program. You guys are dreaming.
 
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jerryvol44 said:
I love it, obviously you haven't been paying attention to the UT basketball program for the last 40 years or so. Pearl was not bigger that the program, he was the program. You guys are dreaming.
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In a few years he might get another for you to follow.
 
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