Where Are All The Gerald Jones Apologists Now?

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hatvol96 said:
I want to hear some more about what a great leader that loser was and how he loves UT.
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I want to wait till the smoke clears before I hate on him.
It just seems so crazy that he would actually talk trash about the Vols. :crazy: Well, like I said....
GO VOLS!
 
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Rockytopman said:
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Does it really matter with the general population on this site whether or not the accusations are true? I mean any chance to throw someone under the bus, especially players/coaches is jumped upon around here.

TT was loved around here when he wore the orange, now he's looked at like a piece of trash because he left, to better himself and his family no doubt. He actually got off the sinking ship before it totslly went under.

GJ says he did not negative recruit against us. Until someone like Tiny or whomever comes forward and says otherwise, thats all we've got.
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I'm just wondering where the "knowledge" he bad-mouthed UT came from? Is it simply Gabe chose Aubarn, and they are extrapolating?

I'm not sure where the GJ hate is coming from either. For smoking weed, which probably greater than 50% of the posters on here smoke? For having injuries playing football? For converting 40% of our 3rd downs in the season we needed him most? For being a leader his senior year?
 
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utvolpj said:
if you bothered to read the threads you would see much of it came from UT commit Richardson (who was also recruited by Auburn)
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That coupled with a little bit of common sense. I mean does anyone really buy that TT would get GJ in contact with GW if there would be any conversation other than pro AU and neg UT?
 
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BearCat204 said:
That coupled with a little bit of common sense. I mean does anyone really buy that TT would get GJ in contact with GW if there would be any conversation other than pro AU and neg UT?
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of course not. I'd never list a reference that thought I was an idiot.

but what positives could he have for AU? He's never gone there or played for their staff. He may have talked to a few people but his opinion would probably be no better than mine.

I do not think he necessarily said negative things about UT. I do believe it's possible to not say neg things but still present something in a less than flattering light.
 
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Recap: hat has no problem calling Dooley a buffoon on a public message board, but has a huge problem with what Gerald Jones did.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I want to hear some more about what a great leader that loser was and how he loves UT.
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Done more for UT Football than you ever have, desk jockey!

He practiced, played, and went to school. He did exactly what he was recruited to do. He's done and doesn't owe UT or any fan anything else.

3 HC's, 4 OC's, and 5 QB's. I wouldn't be too happy either, however; I accept his quotes in the article in which he defends his actions as the truth.

If Dooley can't out recruit GJ or TT then we are in big trouble anyway.
 
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HendersonVol said:
Recap: hat has no problem calling Dooley a buffoon on a public message board, but has a huge problem with what Gerald Jones did.
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Is Hat a current or former UT football player? Has he ever tried to sell a recruit we were after on a coach at a different school?
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utgibbs said:
I'm just wondering where the "knowledge" he bad-mouthed UT came from? Is it simply Gabe chose Aubarn, and they are extrapolating?

I'm not sure where the GJ hate is coming from either. For smoking weed, which probably greater than 50% of the posters on here smoke? For having injuries playing football? For converting 40% of our 3rd downs in the season we needed him most? For being a leader his senior year?
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This wasn't just about smoking a doob in the privacy of your room during off season, it cost us a prize recruit or two and further stained the program which was taking a lot of negative hits under Fulmer, i.e., the Fulmer Cup.

He was a fairly productive player his senior year but I would never consider him a team leader. His lack of preparation coming into 2009 directly contributed to at least two losses - UCLA and Auburn - and greatly affected Crompton's production. It was no coincidence that Crompton's production increased about the same time that GJ finally got his head and body into the game about the Georgia game.

His character is questionable...don't think he has a chance for the NFL. If he was a high character and toughness guy he probably brings enough intangibles to make a team.
 
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VolinDawgland said:
This wasn't just about smoking a doob in the privacy of your room during off season, it cost us a prize recruit or two and further stained the program which was taking a lot of negative hits under Fulmer, i.e., the Fulmer Cup.
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don't agree at all on the prized recruit thing and the Fulmer cup is irrelevant
 
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BearCat204 said:
That coupled with a little bit of common sense. I mean does anyone really buy that TT would get GJ in contact with GW if there would be any conversation other than pro AU and neg UT?
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This. Trooper and Jones are obviously tight. Trooper knew good and well what Gerald would say and that it would benefit him.
 
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VolinDawgland said:
This wasn't just about smoking a doob in the privacy of your room during off season, it cost us a prize recruit or two and further stained the program which was taking a lot of negative hits under Fulmer, i.e., the Fulmer Cup.

He was a fairly productive player his senior year but I would never consider him a team leader. His lack of preparation coming into 2009 directly contributed to at least two losses - UCLA and Auburn - and greatly affected Crompton's production. It was no coincidence that Crompton's production increased about the same time that GJ finally got his head and body into the game about the Georgia game.

His character is questionable...don't think he has a chance for the NFL. If he was a high character and toughness guy he probably brings enough intangibles to make a team.
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There is no doubt a receiver helps make a QB. Look at our 3rd down conversions with GJ and without him last year.

But, Crompton was suffering from a lot more than receivers for a very long time. I'm glad the game slowed down for him, but the "cheerleader bombs" and the infamous "skip pass" had nothing to do with receivers.
 
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SGMVols said:
Is Hat a current or former UT football player? Has he ever tried to sell a recruit we were after on a coach at a different school?
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He doesn't have a problem with Kiffin bad mouthing UT on the way out.

Let him fight his own battles.
 
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HendersonVol said:
Recap: hat has no problem calling Dooley a buffoon on a public message board, but has a huge problem with what Gerald Jones did.
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Thanks for that. I bet hatvol is a joy to have around IRL! :D

In related news, I still haven't seen evidence (other than the speculation of message board geniuses) that Jones said one negative word about Tennessee.
 
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All you need to know is that GJ admitted to taking a call that was promoted by another school. He admitted he didn't give GW his number. We wouldn't be discussing this if someone at UT gave GW his number. From there you can either believe GJ was just a friendly unbiased sounding board like he's saying or not. We do know his family wanted GW at UT and we do know because he said so that GJ said ignore family and do what you want. At face value that's fine but most people have serious doubts that any recruiter at any school would ever have a potential recruit call another teams player unless the outcome was expected or known. Add to that rumors and speculation that AR was given a pitch by GJ that was less than flattering and rumors that GW admitted having received the same. I don't need the rumors to know the whole thing stinks but I understand some of you may have head colds.
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Think it depends on what you call bad mouthing but in general he said nothing out of the way that I can recall.
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DD4ME said:
All you need to know is that GJ admitted to taking a call that was promoted by another school. He admitted he didn't give GW his number. We wouldn't be discussing this if someone at UT gave GW his number. From there you can either believe GJ was just a friendly unbiased sounding board like he's saying or not. We do know his family wanted GW at UT and we do know because he said so that GJ said ignore family and do what you want. At face value that's fine but most people have serious doubts that any recruiter at any school would ever have a potential recruit call another teams player unless the outcome was expected or known. Add to that rumors and speculation that AR was given a pitch by GJ that was less than flattering and rumors that GW admitted having received the same. I don't need the rumors to know the whole thing stinks but I understand some of you may have head colds.
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Speculation and supposition. Blah, blah, blah. Lots of people just want to think the worst.

Let me give you a viable alternative working theory. TT didn't need GJ to say anything about UT at all. All he needed was for someone to tell the recruit, "yes, I liked playing for Trooper; he was a straight shooter." After that, TT has credibility to say whatever he wants about UTK because he's a "straight shooter" and he had first hand experience working here.

I swear to God some people get their whole self worth from crapping on other people on Internet message boards based on nothing more than idiotic gossip. LAME!
 
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