Source inside says CBP is gone. (rumor)

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Shot0fClarity said:
Some of you thinking Bruce Pearl is bigger than the program need to wake up. Bruce has done great things for UT basketball, but he is not our only good option - and probably not the best.

UT basketball offers something right now that it hasn't in the past. Great facilities, a fanbase that cares, and a stocked cupboard. I've been on the Pearl bandwagon for years, but now I'm saying bring in someone new.
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Yeah I agree that we can hire as good or better than B Pearl but all it takes is looking around the SEC to realize we can do much worse as well.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I disagree completely. He couldn't fire him in September because he couldn't have hired a guy a week before practice officially started. He made the good business decision of terminating Pearl's contract and allowing him to get rid of Pearl at anytime. Now, he has the luxury of canning Pearl when we see officially what these sanctions are likely to be. Terminating a coach's contract doesn't exactly scream, "we're sticking with you no matter what."
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Good summary. I wondered about that and agree with this take on it.
 
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volconomist said:
You can't possibly mean this.
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Why? My point is that he has already lied to me. If he then comes back and says "so sorry" is he really? Probably not. He's just saying what he thinks will help his cause, and if I allow it to help his cause what is that saying to him? I'd rather someone just say "Hey, I lied, please tell me what this means." Than to have this long drawn out, woe is me, apology tour. Bruce is saying all the right things because it helps his cause. I don't blame him; I blame the people (NCAA, media, us, etc.) who, for some strange reason, are supposed to feel better if he says he's sorry about lying. If this hurts his career, he'll probably not do it again. Or, he might just find a better way to do it. And that's not just Bruce, that's anybody that's being honest about it.
 
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Why not have Todd Raleigh coach both baseball/basketball? It'd be just what you Pearl haters deserve.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Yeah I agree that we can hire as good or better than B Pearl but all it takes is looking around the SEC to realize we can do much worse as well.
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No We can't, Pearl is the best coach We have had at UT since the Ray Mears days...It's not like coaches were knocking the door to come here after they fired Devoe...He never had a losing record and yet they ran him off and hired the most worthless coach in the history of the SEC just to get his son to play for us...O'Neal left because he was tired of playing 2nd fiddle to the football program and nobody caring about basketball....Green doesn't get a mention and Buzz is....Well Buzz, See Houston statement....Pearl has made UT basketball relevant again...We are lucky to have him and if you honestly believe any top coach is going to drop what he's doing to come here and coach you have another thing coming...It will NOT happen :clapping:
 
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VOLnMiami said:
No We can't, Pearl is the best coach We have had at UT since the Ray Mears days...It's not like coaches were knocking the door to come here after they fired Devoe...He never had a losing record and yet they ran him off and hired the most worthless coach in the history of the SEC just to get his son to play for us...O'Neal left because he was tired of playing 2nd fiddle to the football program and nobody caring about basketball....Green doesn't get a mention and Buzz is....Well Buzz, See Houston statement....Pearl has made UT basketball relevant again...We are lucky to have him and if you honestly believe any top coach is going to drop what he's doing to come here and coach you have another thing coming...It will NOT happen :clapping:
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I guess this post isn't entirely wrong. Still a ridiculous outlook on the program, but at least you got all the coaches' names right.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I guess this post isn't entirely wrong.
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Outside of being completely inaccurate about the level of interest in the Tennessee job when DeVoe was fired and the reasons for KO's departure, it does have a little truth.

Edit: He's also wrong about DeVoe never having a losing season.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I guess this post isn't entirely wrong. Still a ridiculous outlook on the program, but at least you got all the coaches names right.
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He also managed to use correct grammar and punctuation in one of the sentences. Give credit where due.
 
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DocVol said:
From my source within the athletic department:

"Bruce Pearl will not return as the coach of the UT Men's Basketball team next season."

"The NCAA WILL suspend Bruce Pearl for one year and UT will lose scholarships in addition to the self-imposed and SEC sanctions."

Credible and reliable. Book it.
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What a joke!!!:lolabove:
 
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feathersax said:
Why not have Todd Raleigh coach both baseball/basketball? It'd be just what you Pearl haters deserve.
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Just have to weigh the options of having a bumbling wreck as a coach or a notorious liar.

Won't happen though. Only options we've got are DeVoe, Wade, Buzz and Jed.
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NYYVol said:
Just have to weigh the options of having a bumbling wreck as a coach or a notorious liar.

Won't happen though. Only options we've got are DeVoe, Wade, Buzz and Jed.
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I don't think the legislative act that prescribes who UT can hire as a replacement for Pearl includes DeVoe.
 
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Can someone take the lead on making sure a new thread on this topic is started each and every day until there is some actual resolution to the situation. Kinda like a game day thread with every day being a Bruce Pearl "gameday".
 
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I say keep him and tough out the punishment you will come out of it better than quote cutting your loses, we will be back by 2014 and probably hold on to most of the players pearl has recruited, pull a UNLV like when they had Tark the Sharks back.
 
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TNDRIVER said:
I say keep him and tough out the punishment you will come out of it better than quote cutting your loses, we will be back by 2014 and probably hold on to most of the players pearl has recruited, pull a UNLV like when they had Tark the Sharks back.
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That's crazy. I don't think Tobias Harris will be there that long, and all the other player who aren't freshman would be gone.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Outside of being completely inaccurate about the level of interest in the Tennessee job when DeVoe was fired and the reasons for KO's departure, it does have a little truth.

Edit: He's also wrong about DeVoe never having a losing season.
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My bad he did have two losing seasons after Tony White and co left and the level of interest wasn't nearly on the level you may think it was...We aren't Kentucky or UNC and we were not about to pay big bucks a top flight coach to come here....It's football first and basketball a distant 2nd...And it will always be that way...Pearl has earned a lot of the money he makes by putting butts in the seats and being successful...We got him at a bargain price.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
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My bad he did have two losing seasons after Tony White and co left and the level of interest wasn't nearly on the level you may think it was...We aren't Kentucky or UNC and we were not about to pay big bucks a top flight coach to come here....It's football first and basketball a distant 2nd...And it will always be that way...Pearl has earned a lot of the money he makes by putting butts in the seats and being successful...We got him at a bargain price.
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I'm glad he greatly improved UT basketball. Now let's not run the program back into the ground because of that.
 
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99bubble said:
You know, I find it fascinating, this idea that if you lie about it versus telling the truth then it's different. I'm a parent and I understand the desire to want the truth. But in the end, all someone is doing when they tell the truth is self-preservation. The idea that we need the truth, to me, is a selfish thing. We just want to make sure we know what is going on, without real regard for what we are dealing with. If somebody lies, they will do it again. And, we have all lied. You might want to argue about the severity of them and I would be glad to do that with someone, but in the end wanting someone to tell the truth is more about that person than the liar. Ultimately I want my kid to understand what he's doing is harming his reputation. Whether I know what actually happened doesn't really concern me.
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This is long and off-topic, but the above post warrants a serious reply.

I don't insist on the truth from my kids because of some disembodied principle; I demand it because it's an integral part of my authority. I'm not with my kids all the time now, and the older they get the less I'll be with them and the easier it'll be for them to get away with telling me whatever the hell they think I want to hear. Since I operate under the realistic assumption that all kids will at some point be up to some stuff that they don't want their parents to know about, I've started beating it into them at an early age that you don't lie to your parents. I don't do this because I'm particularly authoritarian: I'm a pretty relaxed dad with a couple of great kids (so far, at least), and I don't have to have many rules. I do it because the teenage years are coming, and you have to operate under the assumption that all teenagers are reckless idiots with a death wish, and I think in order to help them navigate through that, you have to be able to occasionally put on the I AM DAD, MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE hat. And that frankly has to be based on a kernel of fear. You don't openly defy me or lie to my face, or I will kick your ass.

I think we all knew kids growing up who would happily and easily lie to their parents all the time, and the parents would nod genially and obliviously and believe it all, and then the kids would head out to recklessly do exactly what they just promised that they wouldn't. I'm not going to be that parent. If my kids are going to lie to me, they're at least going to squirm about it like I did when I lied to my parents. I was so thoroughly conditioned to hate and fear lying to my folks that it was a real deterrent sometimes.

I don't see how you can have any authority if your kids learn that lying to you is no big deal. And if you don't have any authority, then pretty much all you can do between puberty and college graduation is watch from the sidelines, wring your hands, and hope things turn out. Maybe you think it's "selfish" and "more about [me] than the liar," but mostly I am concerned with seeing the liar live to adulthood.
 
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SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED ALONG TIME AGO...WITHOUT INTERGRITY U HAVE NOTHING Tn is better than CBP...
 
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I would think if Pearl was going to be fired, this would have already happened. Why go through all the negative publicity and wait for the NCAA findings and THEN fire CBP? It doesn't make any sense. I don't think there is any intentions of firing him as long as the arena is full. I remember not very long ago when we were lucky to have 10000 at a game and the only sellout was KY. I would guess the revenue has probably tripled since Pearl was hired and I don't think anyone at UT wants to change this.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
This is long and off-topic, but the above post warrants a serious reply.

I don't insist on the truth from my kids because of some disembodied principle; I demand it because it's an integral part of my authority. I'm not with my kids all the time now, and the older they get the less I'll be with them and the easier it'll be for them to get away with telling me whatever the hell they think I want to hear. Since I operate under the realistic assumption that all kids will at some point be up to some stuff that they don't want their parents to know about, I've started beating it into them at an early age that you don't lie to your parents. I don't do this because I'm particularly authoritarian: I'm a pretty relaxed dad with a couple of great kids (so far, at least), and I don't have to have many rules. I do it because the teenage years are coming, and you have to operate under the assumption that all teenagers are reckless idiots with a death wish, and I think in order to help them navigate through that, you have to be able to occasionally put on the I AM DAD, MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE hat. And that frankly has to be based on a kernel of fear. You don't openly defy me or lie to my face, or I will kick your ass.

I think we all knew kids growing up who would happily and easily lie to their parents all the time, and the parents would nod genially and obliviously and believe it all, and then the kids would head out to recklessly do exactly what they just promised that they wouldn't. I'm not going to be that parent. If my kids are going to lie to me, they're at least going to squirm about it like I did when I lied to my parents. I was so thoroughly conditioned to hate and fear lying to my folks that it was a real deterrent sometimes.

I don't see how you can have any authority if your kids learn that lying to you is no big deal. And if you don't have any authority, then pretty much all you can do between puberty and college graduation is watch from the sidelines, wring your hands, and hope things turn out. Maybe you think it's "selfish" and "more about [me] than the liar," but mostly I am concerned with seeing the liar live to adulthood.
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A parenting view to which I tend to subscribe. There are lines to cross and there are brick walls.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
A parenting view to which I tend to subscribe. There are lines to cross and there are brick walls.
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95 percent of the time, I'm a happy-go-lucky dad who's more like my son's big brother. But the other 5 percent of the time, I speak with the Voice Of God. Ultimately I'm a father, not a buddy or a life coach.
 
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