Pac-10 Report: League May Not Be Able to Fill Its Bowl Commitments

#76
#76
droski said:
lots of bcs teams lose to tcu, boise, and utah. sec teams refuse to play them.
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Because they're 3000 miles away. They're much closer to Pac-10 teams. It's the same reason nobody from the Pac-10 is playing Miami and FSU.

Funny thing is, Utah will enter the Pac-10 and instantly be the best of the southern division. If TCU were to join the SEC, they'd lose 5 games.

And when have Utah and TCU ever proposed home and homes with SEC teams?
 
#77
#77
droski said:
lots of bcs teams lose to tcu, boise, and utah. sec teams refuse to play them.
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Georgia wasn't afraid when the murdered them. I don't think there is any reason for any SEC team to play them, anyways. Not looking to tap into the Idaho recruiting base at the moment.
 
#84
#84
Bumi said:
Please, humor me and make an argument for Washington > Kentucky.
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2010 football schedule:

09/04/10 at BYU Provo, Utah L, 23-17
09/11/10 vs. Syracuse Seattle, Wash. W, 41-20
09/18/10 vs. Nebraska Seattle, Wash. L, 56-21
10/02/10 at USC * Los Angeles, Calif. W, 32-31
10/09/10 vs. Arizona State * Seattle, Wash. L, 24-14
10/16/10 vs. Oregon State * Seattle, Wash. W, 35-34 (2ot)
10/23/10 at Arizona * Tucson, Ariz. L, 44-14
10/30/10 vs. Stanford * Seattle, Wash. 4:00 p.m. PT
11/06/10 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. TBA
11/18/10 vs. UCLA * Seattle, Wash. 5:00 p.m. PT
11/27/10 at California * Berkeley, Calif. TBA
12/04/10 at Washington State * Pullman, Wash. TBA


09/04/10 vs. Northwestern Nashville, Tenn. L, 23-21
09/11/10 vs. LSU Nashville, Tenn. L, 27-3
09/18/10 at Mississippi Oxford, Miss. W, 28-14
10/02/10 at Connecticut East Hartford, Conn. L, 40-21
10/09/10 vs. Eastern Michigan Nashville, Tenn. W, 52-6 10/16/10 at Georgia Athens, Ga. L, 43-0
10/23/10 vs. South Carolina Nashville, Tenn. L, 21-7
10/30/10 at Arkansas Fayetteville, Ark. 6:00 p.m. CT
11/06/10 vs. Florida Nashville, Tenn. 11:21 a.m. CT
11/13/10 at Kentucky Lexington, Ky. TBA
11/20/10 vs. Tennessee Nashville, Tenn. TBA
11/27/10 vs. Wake Forest Nashville, Tenn. TBA

You can't seriously argue vanderbilt's schedule is harder?
 
#85
#85
droski said:
you do realize that the sec east leader currently has 2 losses and we are in week 8 right? i assure you SC could have won sec titles with that type of schedule.
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yeah, they have 2 losses, and look at their schedule. If teams in the SEC didn't have to beat each other up week in and week out, and could only play their starters maybe 2 quarters a game, like Oregon and boise st., they'd have alot better record. Oregon doesn't have to get up and play out of their minds every week in order to win like teams in the sec. Like a few years ago, tebow had to play every snap, of every game and they still had a loss. Because of their str. Of schedule
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#86
#86
droski said:
i guess you ahve a very low standard for kicking ass. unless you are agreeing with me that the sec is #1, but not far better tahn every other conference.
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I consider 6-0 in BCS title games kicking ass.

Bowl Records
09: 6-4
08: 6-2
07: 7-2
06: 6-3

Since 06, the SEC has gone 25-11 in bowl games. That's kicking ass. :closedeyes:
 
#87
#87
droski said:
2010 football schedule:

09/04/10 at BYU Provo, Utah L, 23-17
09/11/10 vs. Syracuse Seattle, Wash. W, 41-20
09/18/10 vs. Nebraska Seattle, Wash. L, 56-21
10/02/10 at USC * Los Angeles, Calif. W, 32-31
10/09/10 vs. Arizona State * Seattle, Wash. L, 24-14
10/16/10 vs. Oregon State * Seattle, Wash. W, 35-34 (2ot)
10/23/10 at Arizona * Tucson, Ariz. L, 44-14
10/30/10 vs. Stanford * Seattle, Wash. 4:00 p.m. PT
11/06/10 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. TBA
11/18/10 vs. UCLA * Seattle, Wash. 5:00 p.m. PT
11/27/10 at California * Berkeley, Calif. TBA
12/04/10 at Washington State * Pullman, Wash. TBA


09/04/10 vs. Northwestern Nashville, Tenn. L, 23-21
09/11/10 vs. LSU Nashville, Tenn. L, 27-3
09/18/10 at Mississippi Oxford, Miss. W, 28-14
10/02/10 at Connecticut East Hartford, Conn. L, 40-21
10/09/10 vs. Eastern Michigan Nashville, Tenn. W, 52-6 10/16/10 at Georgia Athens, Ga. L, 43-0
10/23/10 vs. South Carolina Nashville, Tenn. L, 21-7
10/30/10 at Arkansas Fayetteville, Ark. 6:00 p.m. CT
11/06/10 vs. Florida Nashville, Tenn. 11:21 a.m. CT
11/13/10 at Kentucky Lexington, Ky. TBA
11/20/10 vs. Tennessee Nashville, Tenn. TBA
11/27/10 vs. Wake Forest Nashville, Tenn. TBA

You can't seriously argue vanderbilt's schedule is harder?
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We're talking about Kentucky here, not Vandy(though Vandy does have a bowl win within the last 5 years. Washington can't say the same)
 
#88
#88
Bumi said:
I consider 6-0 in BCS title games kicking ass.

Bowl Records
09: 6-4
08: 6-2
07: 7-2
06: 6-3

Since 06, the SEC has gone 25-11 in bowl games. That's kicking ass. :closedeyes:
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pac-10 is 22 and 11. 3 more wins is kicking ass?
 
#89
#89
Bumi said:
We're talking about Kentucky here, not Vandy(though Vandy does have a bowl win within the last 5 years. Washington can't say the same)
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whoops posted the wrong one. kentucky schedule is actually worse:

09/04/10 at Louisville Louisville, Ky. W, 23-16
09/11/10 vs. Western Kentucky Lexington, Ky. W, 63-28
09/18/10 vs. Akron Lexington, Ky. W, 47-10
09/25/10 at Florida * Gainesville, Fla. L, 48-14
10/02/10 at Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. L, 42-35
10/09/10 vs. Auburn * Lexington, Ky. L, 37-34
10/16/10 vs. South Carolina * Lexington, Ky. W, 31-28
10/23/10 vs. Georgia * Lexington, Ky. L, 44-31
10/30/10 at Mississippi State * Starkville, Miss. 7:00 p.m. ET
11/06/10 vs. Charleston Southern Lexington, Ky. TBA
11/13/10 vs. Vanderbilt * Lexington, Ky. TBA
11/27/10 at Tennessee * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
 
#91
#91
droski said:
whoops posted the wrong one. kentucky schedule is actually worse:

09/04/10 at Louisville Louisville, Ky. W, 23-16
09/11/10 vs. Western Kentucky Lexington, Ky. W, 63-28
09/18/10 vs. Akron Lexington, Ky. W, 47-10
09/25/10 at Florida * Gainesville, Fla. L, 48-14
10/02/10 at Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. L, 42-35
10/09/10 vs. Auburn * Lexington, Ky. L, 37-34
10/16/10 vs. South Carolina * Lexington, Ky. W, 31-28
10/23/10 vs. Georgia * Lexington, Ky. L, 44-31
10/30/10 at Mississippi State * Starkville, Miss. 7:00 p.m. ET
11/06/10 vs. Charleston Southern Lexington, Ky. TBA
11/13/10 vs. Vanderbilt * Lexington, Ky. TBA
11/27/10 at Tennessee * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
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Washington has played a tough schedule thus far.

My question is, how does this make Washington a better program and team?

I'll reiterate an earlier post. Kentucky is a batter program and team than Washington because...

Kentucky hasn't had a losing season since 05. In the last 5 years they have 3 bowl wins against Clemson, Florida State, and ECU.

Arizona State hasn't finished above .500 since 07, and hasn't had a bowl win since 05.

Washington hasn't finished above .500 in about 10 or so years, hasen't won a bowl game in the same amount of time, has a winless season in 08, and only mustered 1 win in 04.
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#93
#93
droski said:
then i suppose when sc was winning nc you'd argue the pac-10 was great?
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No. USC has one BCS title, and they're the only team from the Pac-10 to have competed for a BCS title. 4 different teams from the SEC have competed for BCS National Titles(Would've been 5, but Auburn got screwed), 3 in the last 4 years.
 
#94
#94
Bumi said:
Washington has played a tough schedule thus far.

My question is, how does this make Washington a better program and team?

I'll reiterate an earlier post. Kentucky is a batter program and team than Washington because...
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kentucky hasn't had a losing season because they play the worst nonconference schedule of any bcs team in the country. their sec record is horrible during that time. washington went through the worst stretch in program history a couple of years ago. this is kind of like arguing tenn is an inferior program to michigan state.
 
#96
#96
Bumi said:
No. USC has one BCS title, and they're the only team from the Pac-10 to have competed for a BCS title. 4 different teams from the SEC have competed for BCS National Titles(Would've been 5, but Auburn got screwed), 3 in the last 4 years.
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and none of those teams have had sustained success. you've had one great team and bunch of good, not great teams. once again. still teh best conference, but not the gap you think it is.
 
#97
#97
chavisut said:
I'm not sure how the Pac 10's bowl formats are, but a lot of the SEC bowl games match them up against teams finishing higher in the other conferences.
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It really seems like they mostly play mid majors and Big 10 teams that are making a hell of a lot longer trip.
 
#98
#98
droski said:
and none of those teams have had sustained success. you've had one great team and bunch of good, not great teams. once again. still teh best conference, but not the gap you think it is.
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There's a reason for that. The teams that aren't winning are taking steps to get back to winning at all times.
 
#99
#99
chavisut said:
I'm not sure how the Pac 10's bowl formats are, but a lot of the SEC bowl games match them up against teams finishing higher in the other conferences.
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fair and valid point. but is a pac-10 team playing utah or nebraska worse than an sec team playing the 3rd big 10 team? hard to quantify. the point is if the sec is heads and above every other conference i'd expect there to be a HUGE difference in bowl record. at least 10%.
 
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