World Cup Soccer........Boring as H*ll

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rockydoc said:
Why do Americans bash soccer fans?..........Because it's not PC to bash gays........ though we all know they are for the most part they are the same.:rock:
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....just stop

i think you've embarrassed yourself enough by now
 
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I wish they had either Golden Goal or Silver Goal. At least that avoided some shootouts.

I don't hate shootouts like most do, though. At some point in soccer, you just need a winner, and if this is how it's done, then it's fine by me. Better than away goals in 2 game legs, in my opinion.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I wish they had either Golden Goal or Silver Goal. At least that avoided some shootouts.

I don't hate shootouts like most do, though. At some point in soccer, you just need a winner, and if this is how it's done, then it's fine by me. Better than away goals in 2 game legs, in my opinion.
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I hate it but accept that in international tournaments, there isn't a better option. I like the two leg option much better but that would be impossible to implement in a tournament like the World Cup.
 
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volball625 said:
I hate it but accept that in international tournaments, there isn't a better option. I like the two leg option much better but that would be impossible to implement in a tournament like the World Cup.
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I understand not liking shootouts, but I can't understand why everyone likes the away goals tiebreaker. I don't see how teams can tie 1-1 and 0-0 and then it's determined that one team did better.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I understand not liking shootouts, but I can't understand why everyone likes the away goals tiebreaker. I don't see how teams can tie 1-1 and 0-0 and then it's determined that one team did better.
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The example I use for that is Barcelona-Chelsea in 2009 CL. Chelsea did not try to score at all in Barcelona and relied on getting a result in London. Well, we all know how that turned out. In theory, it tries to force teams to play a complete game in both legs and not park the bus in the away leg.
 
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#58
What's wrong with saying soccer is boring? People say that regularly about baseball, golf, auto racing, hockey, etc.

I don't get my panties (knickers?) in a wad if people say it about other sports. It doesn't say anything about Americans if most don't like soccer anymore if than it says about Germans if most aren't NASCAR fans.
 
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volinbham said:
What's wrong with saying soccer is boring? People say that regularly about baseball, golf, auto racing, hockey, etc.

I don't get my panties (knickers?) in a wad if people say it about other sports. It doesn't say anything about Americans if most don't like soccer anymore if than it says about Germans if most aren't NASCAR fans.
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Exactly. Personally, I enjoy watching soccer in short doses, but I can see why it drives people crazy.

. . . and Doc, soccer fans aren't all gay . . . just socialists.
 
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I like soccer, but understand why people don't.

The one thing is it's not really our top athletes playing for the most part.
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volinbham said:
What's wrong with saying soccer is boring? People say that regularly about baseball, golf, auto racing, hockey, etc.

I don't get my panties (knickers?) in a wad if people say it about other sports. It doesn't say anything about Americans if most don't like soccer anymore if than it says about Germans if most aren't NASCAR fans.
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i don't have a problem with the people that say it's boring. it's the people that bash it and make fun of it without knowing the first thing about the game that drive me nuts. there's a difference.
 
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GAVol said:
Exactly. Personally, I enjoy watching soccer in short doses, but I can see why it drives people crazy.

. . . and Doc, soccer fans aren't all gay . . . just socialists.
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first time I've been lumped in with that group
 
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I think the biggest issue is that most Americans would feel they're "conceding" to world feelings towards soccer and instead relish our American invented sports of US football, baseball (even though both truly originated in England) and basketball.

That and US Soccer is erratic... at best. Honestly, if we are more 2002 than 2006 I feel that will go very far in helping soccer gain more popularity here.
 
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DC Vol said:
I think the biggest issue is that most Americans would feel they're "conceding" to world feelings towards soccer and instead relish our American invented sports of US football, baseball (even though both truly originated in England) and basketball.

That and US Soccer is erratic... at best. Honestly, if we are more 2002 than 2006 I feel that will go very far in helping soccer gain more popularity here.
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Not really. We've become accustomed to fast paced with scoring or hitting. Soccer simply isn't as ready made for TV viewing. One need not understand the "intricacies (I laughed)" to "appreciate" the beauty. It's hockey, only slower and with less hitting. The ball control is impressive, but it's just not enticing for most Americans when our football is as exciting as it is.
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I must admit I've been watching more soccer since my daughter played this spring. I played when I was younger so I understand the rules. As BPV pointed out it is basically hockey on grass without the violent hits, although some tackles can be pretty dramatic.

Americans aren't into hockey like the rest of the world for a number of reasons. We like faster paced games, love the physical aspect of our sports. We also just aren't exposed to it as much of the rest of the world is, much fewer people play soccer in the US, it would be somewhere around 4th or 5th. Our best athletes simply aren't involved in the game like they are other places.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Not really. We've become accustomed to fast paced with scoring or hitting. Soccer simply isn't as ready made for TV viewing. One need not understand the "intricacies (I laughed)" to "appreciate" the beauty. It's hockey, only slower and with less hitting. The ball control is impressive, but it's just not enticing for most Americans when our football is as exciting as it is.
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Soccer looks like a pile of mush if you don't know what's going on. It's as simple as that. Most Americans don't know little if anything about soccer and therefore it looks boring. Baseball, to me, moves along *far* slower than soccer does.

The only point I agree on is the comparison with hockey... and only a little. It would help soccer's popularity here in the states if the players weren't such p*****s. The US goalkeeper played an entire match with a broken rib, so at least our players seem to be tough.

The ADD excuse is quite thin and even more disparaging.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Not really. We've become accustomed to fast paced with scoring or hitting. Soccer simply isn't as ready made for TV viewing. One need not understand the "intricacies (I laughed)" to "appreciate" the beauty. It's hockey, only slower and with less hitting. The ball control is impressive, but it's just not enticing for most Americans when our football is as exciting as it is.
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Agreed. I can actually watch when it is present. The problem I had with the US/England match was that there were ball control issues completely unrelated to defensive pressure. People were getting behind defenders and the passes were not being made.
 
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Just as long as the soccer haters realize that they are being close-minded and stubborn by refusing to give it a chance. It IS the most popular sport in the world without question. I really think some people are too ADD to pay attention to something for more than ten minutes at a time. The scoring argument is lame, because a 14-7 football game would still be considered a fun-watch. Maybe if soccer threw in timeouts so the players could take a breather, and the viewer could watch a fun little commercial with bright colors everyone would like it more.
 
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DC Vol said:
Soccer looks like a pile of mush if you don't know what's going on. It's as simple as that. Most Americans don't know little if anything about soccer and therefore it looks boring. Baseball, to me, moves along *far* slower than soccer does.

The only point I agree on is the comparison with hockey... and only a little. It would help soccer's popularity here in the states if the players weren't such p*****s. The US goalkeeper played an entire match with a broken rib, so at least our players seem to be tough.

The ADD excuse is quite thin and even more disparaging.
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Baseball is losing viewers just like all slow moving sports. Youth soccer has been the most popular sport in America since the 80s and hordes are into it, so it's tough to argue that it's lack of understanding.
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Panthro said:
Just as long as the soccer haters realize that they are being close-minded and stubborn by refusing to give it a chance. It IS the most popular sport in the world without question. I really think some people are too ADD to pay attention to something for more than ten minutes at a time. The scoring argument is lame, because a 14-7 football game would still be considered a fun-watch. Maybe if soccer threw in timeouts so the players could take a breather, and the viewer could watch a fun little commercial with bright colors everyone would like it more.
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This tactic did not make people like the Seattle Seahawks more.
 
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