Justin Gatlin (Merged)

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Mr. Rockytop

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The Eagles are so desperate for a receicver that they have made an inquiry about :bow: Justin Gatlin. :bow: Ole Leonard Scott has to be pissed :banghead: (LMAO) Well Ole Leonard couldn't catch a cold standing butt naked 5 degrees below in a snowstorm anyway, so he might be alright.



http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5658716
 
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This has been tried before with the SF 49ers signing Renaldo Neimiah back in the 80's, and I'm sure that this time will meet with equally disastrous results.
 
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(Volsguy12 @ Jun 1 said:
does anyone know what Gatlins 40 time would be?
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This is totally theoretical, but here you go:

He ran the 100m in 9.77s or it took 9.77s/100m, which is .0977 seconds per meter. There are 109.36 yds in 100 meters, therefore if you express his time in seconds per yard it is .08934 seconds per yard he ran. Multiplying this by 40 yards gives you 3.57 seconds for 40 yards.

It would be interesting to see what he would run under combine circumstances, but dang that's fast!!
 
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(vader @ Jun 1 said:
This is totally theoretical, but here you go:

He ran the 100m in 9.77s or it took 9.77s/100m, which is .0977 seconds per meter. There are 109.36 yds in 100 meters, therefore if you express his time in seconds per yard it is .08934 seconds per yard he ran. Multiplying this by 40 yards gives you 3.57 seconds for 40 yards.

It would be interesting to see what he would run under combine circumstances, but dang that's fast!!
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It's also totally wrong. Despite the fact that your math may be correct, you can't extrapolate a time per meter run for 100 meters over a 40-yard dash and be anywhere close to accurate. Nobody, no matter how great they are out of the blocks, is as fast out of the blocks as they are when they reach their top-end speed. In a 100-meter race, the relatively slower running speed when the person starts out of the blocks is spread over an entire 100-meters, where in a 40-yard dash a smaller percentage of the race is spent at top-end speed.
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 1 said:
It's also totally wrong. Despite the fact that your math may be correct, you can't extrapolate a time per meter run for 100 meters over a 40-yard dash and be anywhere close to accurate. Nobody, no matter how great they are out of the blocks, is as fast out of the blocks as they are when they reach their top-end speed. In a 100-meter race, the relatively slower running speed when the person starts out of the blocks is spread over an entire 100-meters, where in a 40-yard dash a smaller percentage of the race is spent at top-end speed.
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Duh. I wasn't trying to represent this as fact, I just played with the numbers I had. Thus my "it would be interesting to see what he would do in combine circumstances"
 
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(vader @ Jun 1 said:
Duh. I wasn't trying to represent this as fact, I just played with the numbers I had. Thus my "it would be interesting to see what he would do in combine circumstances"
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That's why I started my post with the qualification, "Despite the fact that your math may be correct..." I wasn't trying to take a swipe at you. I'm just pointing out that the number that you calculated would be nowhere close to accurate in estimating his true 40-yard time.
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 1 said:
That's why I started my post with the qualification, "Despite the fact that your math may be correct..." I wasn't trying to take a swipe at you. I'm just pointing out that the number that you calculated would be nowhere close to accurate in estimating his true 40-yard time.
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And I concede that point. :hi:
 
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If I had to guess what Gatlin would run in the 40, I would guess 4.2 seconds.
 
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:birgits_giggle:
(vader @ Jun 1 said:
How did you get this? Did I goof up somewhere?
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:birgits_giggle: totally laughin my azz off. I didn't put in the work like you did so my figure is pure speculation, but I do admire your effort and time into your calculation.
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 1 said:
If I had to guess what Gatlin would run in the 40, I would guess 4.2 seconds.
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no, he is definetly in a 3.4- 3.8 area in the 40 Hell Mike Williams of Detroit ran a 4.2 so did Deangelo Hall of The Falcons and they are nowhere near as fast as Justin Gatlin.
 
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(Mr. Rockytop @ Jun 1 said:
oh hell no, he is definetly in a 3.4- 3.8 area in the 40 Hell Mike Williams of Detroit ran a 4.2 so did Deangelo Hall of The Falcons and they are nowhere near as fast as Justin Gatlin.
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If you think that Mike Williams of Detroit ran a 4.2 40-yard dash and you think that Gatlin would definitely be in the 3.4 to 3.8 area, then you really don't know enough to participate in this conversation.

Mike Williams - NOT EVEN CLOSE to a 4.2 40-yard time

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...yers/80697.html
 
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It's apples and oranges. Gatlin's 100 times are calculated based on him starting at the sound of a gun and measured electronically while most 40 times start on first movement and are timed by a guy using his thumb.

From the stuff I've read, anything under a 4.4 is probably BS. Ben Johnson's roided up 100 meters in the Olympics was around 4.3 for the first 40 meters.

EDIT: Here's the article I was talking about. This is pretty eye opening.

40 Times
 
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breaking 4 is tough because you can't build up all the speed... if he ran a 100 and you had the time from the 60-100 yard mark, then it'd probly be 3 something
 
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When he gets jammed at the line by an NFL corner none of this matters.
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 1 said:
If you think that Mike Williams of Detroit ran a 4.2 40-yard dash and you think that Gatlin would definitely be in the 3.4 to 3.8 area, then you really don't know enough to participate in this conversation.

Mike Williams - Not Quite a 4.2 40-yard time

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...yers/80697.html
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Well I started this conversation and if :gun: you are fool enough to believe that he runs a 4.2 then you should find another board to post your 2 cents in ok ! :mf_surrender: NOw a 3.4 - 3.6 may be a bit much I admit but 3.7 - 3.9 is definetly not, hell you have guys that run 4.2 at combines and in high school, so are :eek:k: you that incompetent :unsure: about 40 times to believe thats all a world class sprinter such as Justin Gatlin can run?
 
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(Mr. Rockytop @ Jun 1 said:
Well I started this conversation and if :gun: you are fool enough to believe that he runs a 4.2 then you should find another board to post your 2 cents in ok ! :mf_surrender: NOw a 3.4 - 3.6 may be a bit much I admit but 3.7 - 3.9 is definetly not, hell you have guys that run 4.2 at combines and in high school, so are :eek:k: you that incompetent :unsure: about 40 times to believe thats all a world class sprinter such as Justin Gatlin can run?
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Dante Hall - Not Quite a 4.2

http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2004/0.../1/?draft_nav=1

Yes, and when all of those high school and college players show up at the NFL combine or their own privately scheduled NFL workouts, where NFL coaches are controlling the timing, they suddenly ALL magically become SO much slower.

A 3.7 to 3.9 is definitely not out of the question? You are seriously clueless.
 
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(GAVol @ Jun 1 said:
It's apples and oranges. Gatlin's 100 times are calculated based on him starting at the sound of a gun and measured electronically while most 40 times start on first movement and are timed by a guy using his thumb.

From the stuff I've read, anything under a 4.4 is probably BS. Ben Johnson's roided up 100 meters in the Olympics was around 4.3 for the first 40 meters.

EDIT: Here's the article I was talking about. This is pretty eye opening.

40 Times
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Precisely, but even under the more stringent timing methodology employed at the NFL combine and private workouts for NFL teams, you never see 40 times under 4.2. Anyone thinking that Gatlin can break a 4.0 is in fantasy land.
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 1 said:
This has been tried before with the SF 49ers signing Renaldo Neimiah back in the 80's, and I'm sure that this time will meet with equally disastrous results.
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Hmmm. I hadn't actually followed the link to the story until just now. I didn't even realize that Renaldo was Gatlin's agent.
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 1 said:
Hmmm. I hadn't actually followed the link to the story until just now. I didn't even realize that Renaldo was Gatlin's agent.
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If anybody can give Gatlin good advice on the subject of track stars trying to crossover, he's the guy. I'll never forget the vicious hit that Neamiah took that effectively ended his career.
 
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(GAVol @ Jun 1 said:
If anybody can give Gatlin good advice on the subject of track stars trying to crossover, he's the guy. I'll never forget the vicious hit that Neamiah took that effectively ended his career.
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Hey man me and vol423 was just jawjacking, nothing serious. It really helped my night at work go by faster.
 
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