Big 10 thinking of adding 12th team

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milohimself said:
"Yeah, I know, right?!" - Signed Miami fans in 2002.
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Well, even moreso after losing Miami and VT. The Big East really fell off everyone's radar in football after losing them, so I think it would be much more difficult this time around.

Not saying it wouldn't happen, just saying it'll be easier for teams not as vital to their conference as Cinci, Pitt, and WVU are to the Big East, especially after the other teams leaving a few years back.

If the Big East were to lose a few more top-tier teams, it's possible they could lose an automatic BCS-birth. It's practically Conference-USA level minus Cinci, Pitt, and WVU.
 
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Mizzou seems like a logical choice for the Big Ten to me.

They need to change the name, though. The Big Midwest?
 
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Cincinnati is the choice.

They were C-USA, then Big East, why not keep on moving?

Good basketball, emerging football, and decent baseball. Don't know about the women's sports, but who really cares anyway...
 
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Vercingetorix said:
They will beg the Domers. They'll end up with Pittsburgh.
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The big winner if that scenario plays out? Memphis. They'll parlay having Tranghese on the payroll into a spot in the Big East. RC's decision to bring the former Big East commissioner into the fold is starting to make a whole lot more sense.
 
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I doubt they really go after ND that hard since ND has little to gain and because they've rejected joining multiple times in the past. Pitt and Rutgers seem to be the favorites from what I've read and I think either would really improve the conference.
 
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hatvol96 said:
The big winner if that scenario plays out? Memphis. They'll parlay having Tranghese on the payroll into a spot in the Big East. RC's decision to bring the former Big East commissioner into the fold is starting to make a whole lot more sense.
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No doubt Memphis is probably salivating over this. This might be the best chance Memphis will ever have at reaching BCS status. I wonder how some of the other basketball schools in that conference would feel about bringing yet another powerhouse basketball program on board, though?
 
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orangesox said:
No doubt Memphis is probably salivating over this. This might be the best chance Memphis will ever have at reaching BCS status. I wonder how some of the other basketball schools in that conference would feel about bringing yet another powerhouse basketball program on board, though?
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Pitt's been pretty good the last 7 or 8 years. I don't think any of the coaches or ADs would be terribly concerned about Memphis being significantly better. It's not like U of M would be replacing South Florida or DePaul.
 
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Outside of Notre Dame, which won't happen, here's my list if I'm Jim Delaney:

1) Missouri - Would add a decent football program and basketball program. Already a rivalry school with Illinois. Adds a state to the conference.

2) Rutgers - Geographically, it's a leap, but to get close to NYC, I think they'd do it. Rutgers adds less than nothing on the bball side though.

3) Pittsburgh - Would be a reasonable addition in football (although, Wannstedt is a joke) and a great addition in bball. Would be a decent in-state rival for PSU as well.


If Mizzou turns out to be the choice, I think the Big 12 adds TCU. The only hiccups there is that the conferences would need to be re-balanced and there'd be 5 teams from Texas. Outside of TCU, I don't really know of a logical addition. Arkansas isn't leaving the SEC and non of the MWC or WAC teams outside of TCU would be good additions imho.
 
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^ Wut. Pitt, although overrated as they are, is still a decent football program even with Wannstedt. There's a difference between being overrated and being bad. Bad the Panthers are not.

Pitt would be a great addition to the Big Ten.
 
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Pitt has to be #1. Renews the rivalry with PSU and they get a good football team and a good basketball team and its geographically perfect.
 
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milohimself said:
^ Wut. Pitt, although overrated as they are, is still a decent football program even with Wannstedt. There's a difference between being overrated and being bad. Bad the Panthers are not.

Pitt would be a great addition to the Big Ten.
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I said it was a reasonable football addition?

64-45 in the Big East over the last 9 seasons isn't a 'good' football program. It's pretty mediocre.
 
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Stewart Mandel wrote an article about this on Monday.

The only schools that will be considered will be those the the Big 10(11) feel can bring an average value of roughly 22 million per year, the amount that the schools currently receive as their split in their league revenue sharing. Otherwise, the schools will LOSE money by addign a 12th team. Conference titles games are nice - but in the grand scheme not that big of a revenue maker of the whole pie.

I think you are looking at two schools - Syracuse (tap the NY market maybe) and of course, Notre Dame.

As for Memphis' role in this -

Yes, they are looking Big East first, but there is also a possible scnerio where the Pac 10 expands to 12 teams and takes Colroado from the Big 12. If that happens memphis also likes their shot at getting in the Big 12.
 
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Anyone want to hear the latest crazy team being thrown around for discussion?

Texas. Yes, for the Big 10. No, I'm not screwing around with you.
 
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^ Good point made in that link that in spite of actual football performance, the Big Ten is still college football's biggest cash cow.
 
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rowsdower said:
Pitt has to be #1. Renews the rivalry with PSU and they get a good football team and a good basketball team and its geographically perfect.
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Oooh I didn't think about the Pitt/Penn St rivalry. Yeah the more I think about it, Pitt does make sense. I still wish it was Notre Dame though.
 
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Here's my quarrel with Pitt. It doesn't create any new market interest. The Big Ten already has Western PA in it's market with Penn State. You have to create a new market somewhere if you want to expand, at least in my opinion.
 
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