Tennessee under NCAA investigation over use of recruiting hostesses

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VolunteerHillbilly said:
The angle that you suggest is pretty much what was discussed on 104.5 Nashville as I drove into downtown this morning. No real mention of posters/recruiting, just suggestions of intimate companionship as a means of influence.

The one thing that really bugs me about this is the NCAA interviewing prospects, most of who I assume to be UTK commitments. If I'm a 17/18 year old kid and the NCAA comes to my school/home asking questions about alleged prohibited recruiting practices by the school that I am committed to then the obvious and easiest way to extricate myself from any suspicion is to sign with some other program. It could well be that someone is trying to intimidate UTK's prospects to decommit and they've manged to get the NCAA to do the dirty work for them.
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This is exactly why it's in the NYT. This isn't Thamel's first abortion either.
 
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With GoDaddy.com signing the first female NASCAR driver, we have to step it up somehow to stay competitive for ESPN's attention.
 
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utvolpj said:
yet there are many college kids (or older) who are routinely messaging these guys on Facebook and going to see them play. If I remember right there was a thread about people getting together and going to see a player and the need to show an "orange" presence. Now if I had gone to that I would be classified as a booster of UT and under the same scrutiny?

The true issue is whether this was done at the direction of the UT staff. No one on here has the slightest clue if that happened
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Not being an azz but how do you think the girls "allegedly" knew what number player to "supposedly" cheer for? (Other than a stud stands out on the field)
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Orangekush423 said:
Not being an azz but how do you think the girls "allegedly" knew what number player to "supposedly" cheer for? (Other than a stud stands out on the field)
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you're right, how would they ever figure that out?

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armchair said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/sports/ncaafootball/09tennessee.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

The story mentions the hostesses being the talk of UT message boards. ??? Not that I've seen. Who is flying hostesses to football games in other states? That's pretty dumb, if true. Not sure if it's a violation--we'll find out--but a bit extreme.
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Numerous posters on this board have sang the praises of Lacy Pearl Epps among others for hosting elite players after they commit. Not sure how you have missed this, it's pretty prevalent.
 
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The problem with this BULLS**t is they will never re-run a story that will show that nothing overly illegal was going on...this is all people will remember and will just assume we are cheaters and whore out our girls.

I hate the media Bull.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Driving 3-4 hours on a Friday night to JUST hold up a sign is something that may not worry some of you. The issue isn't necessarily the actions, it's the motive. These girls may have given up their Friday night to do this willingly, but if you think that this is something a college girl REALLY wants to do with their Friday nights, then maybe ignorance is bliss, IMO. I can't fathom that college chicks would willingly go see HS boys in any aspect, unless they were dating of course. Even if they were, holding up a sign that say "Come to UT" isn't something that's smart, and as I said before, Compliance should be chastised for letting something happen like that, even if it is some conspiracy theory that some of you claim that it must be.
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So you're saying there is likely something more to this but yet the best the NYT could come up with was a poster and suggestive journalism? Sorry I'm not buying being a hot chick doesn't exclude you from being a fan who will do irrational things to try and land the best recruits; heck, we've got fans in California turning out to support Bray because he is a Vol commit. If Lattimore or any other recruit was getting more attention than just a poster board, I would think the NYT would've found that little fact out and had a lot more juicier story.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
Not being an azz but how do you think the girls "allegedly" knew what number player to "supposedly" cheer for? (Other than a stud stands out on the field)
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Well, they were around them for an entire day on their visit and I'm sure a school like Byrnes has their roster online... My question is did this happen at other schools or is Byrnes the only one. If it was the coaching staff or AD sending them for this don't you think they would have done it for every big recruit...not just two of them?
 
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MontereyVol said:
Maybe the UT hostesses should sue the NCAA.
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I do think someone needs to start holding the NCAA accountable for their actions.

It should be the University of Tennessee, but if UT tries, they simply 'iron fist' the school. These NCAA violations are like holding penalties. There are lots that go uncalled, but when the refs decide to throw the flag at a critical juncture in the game, there it is.

If NCAA is doing this to intimidate our recruits, that warrants some reimbursement of any funds lost to their misguided activities. How do they run ram shod over so many schools without ever being held accountable?

Should have studied law perhaps...
 
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utvolpj said:
yet there are many college kids (or older) who are routinely messaging these guys on Facebook and going to see them play. If I remember right there was a thread about people getting together and going to see a player and the need to show an "orange" presence. Now if I had gone to that I would be classified as a booster of UT and under the same scrutiny?

The true issue is whether this was done at the direction of the UT staff. No one on here has the slightest clue if that happened
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I don't think for a minute that these girls got up one morning and said, "Hmmmm, maybe we should take a drive over to Brynes to watch some of our commits play, you know, like when they come over here." I don't buy that, but that's just me. Did it come from the coaching staff necessarily, I don't know.
 
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Rockytoprowdy said:
Well, they were around them for an entire day on their visit and I'm sure a school like Byrnes has their roster online... My question is did this happen at other schools or is Byrnes the only one. If it was the coaching staff or AD sending them for this don't you think they would have done it for every big recruit...not just two of them?
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Good point. My bad. I guess it is there job to host these guys, but doesn't it tie them to the staff to some degree since our staff says who we want and to what degree?
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I don't think for a minute that these girls got up one morning and said, "Hmmmm, maybe we should take a drive over to Brynes to watch some of our commits play, you know, like when they come over here." I don't buy that, but that's just me. Did it come from the coaching staff necessarily, I don't know.
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Like I said, UT fans do it all the time so why don't you believe these girls could do it? It wasn't spur of the moment, they told him when he was on campus they would make the trip and they did. You may not realize it but they are huge UT fans too
 
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Guys, this isn't good in any sense of the word, no matter how you spin it.

While not as bad as what Colorado went through under Barnett, it's going to be looked at just as hard. Do I believe the staff organized this? No, I don't. Does that mean we won't get in trouble? No.

Mike Slive has shown he's going to make an example of Lane Kiffin. This is not a conspiracy theory from me, it's just how it is. It's almost irrefutable. He's gone out of his way to call Kiffin out and make rules in regards to Kiffin's actions. Mark Richt had 20 secondary violations last year. We have 6. LSU paid a player. Tennessee has hostesses going 200 miles away trying to bang prospects. And we're being investigated quickly? We're the ones on ESPN's scroll? We're in the NY Times.

Guys, as unfair as it is, this is bad bad bad for us.
 
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So the takeaway is that some hostesses went to a high school game and holding up a sign that says "Come to Tennessee?" That's the worst thing alleged in the article? And yet that is the camel's nose in the tent for the NCAA to come in and start a major investigation, and produces a story in the NYT. If anyone ever doubted that the NCAA was an arbitrary, bureaucratic, micromanaging monolith that would make the EU Parliament blush with its attempts to control the lives of ordinary citizens, then here is your proof.
 
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