'10 JUCO QB Cameron Newton

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spikesglaring said:
This coaching staff isn't in the business of promising starting jobs. They provide the opportunity to earn it and no more. If a kid doesn't like that, then they can look elsewhere.
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I hope they don't. I would tend to think they would not but I had read that they would not go anywhere unless they are the starter. Also, I don't believe Simms or Newton would be here in the spring, but Bray will.
 
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They are not going to sign a Juco kid unless they feel like he is going to start. That is what this week evaluations are about. I think they would like to redshirt Bray and recruit another Big time QB in 2011. If Bray is starting that is going to make getting one in 2011 harder. But I feel like they will do what gives them the best chance to win either way. But IMO that would be to sign Newton. Most seem to think they like Simms better which kind of baffles me. But let it play out. We may not know until the end of November.
 
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VOL61 said:
They are not going to sign a Juco kid unless they feel like he is going to start. That is what this week evaluations are about. I think they would like to redshirt Bray and recruit another Big time QB in 2011. If Bray is starting that is going to make getting one in 2011 harder. But I feel like they will do what gives them the best chance to win either way. But IMO that would be to sign Newton. Most seem to think they like Simms better which kind of baffles me. But let it play out. We may not know until the end of November.
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does this site go back after signing day and see what everyone has to say about kids during recruiting season?? I bet it is a hoot to read.

Nothing to do with your post 61, jsut the length of this thread.

I'll be extermely shocked if we end up with Cameron
 
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LWSVOL said:
does this site go back after signing day and see what everyone has to say about kids during recruiting season?? I bet it is a hoot to read.

Nothing to do with your post 61, jsut the length of this thread.

I'll be extermely shocked if we end up with Cameron
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Because of our interest or his interest?
 
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Extremly Shocked?

Cam himself said we were recruiting him harder than anyone? We are at least supposed to go "lay eyes" on him this week.

Extremly Shocked?

I wouldn't go that far....
 
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I just don't see how Kiffin can turn down a talent like Newton. He very well may, but I don't see how. You work those guys into your system. This dude is a stud.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
I just don't see how Kiffin can turn down a talent like Newton. He very well may, but I don't see how. You work those guys into your system. This dude is a stud.
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The only reason this team should not offer him a scholarship is if they believe his attitude is a problem. Otherwise, I agree that he is far too talented not to bring in over Simms.
 
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Lord Vader said:
Just live with it 61. We are going to get Simms. LWS' word is gold...
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I know.... I know....

I just can't picture a Simms running through the T. Plus you have to look at his dad.... The next thing you know his damn brother will be sitting in the stands.

I just can't believe this may happen. I am about to get sick....

I know it doesn't matter but I think this is a mistake. I don't see how you could take him in front of Newton. But like I said I don't pretend to know as much as they do. We will see how it plays out.
 
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VOL61 said:
I know.... I know....

I just can't picture a Simms running through the T. Plus you have to look at his dad.... The next thing you know his damn brother will be sitting in the stands.

I just can't believe this may happen. I am about to get sick....

I know it doesn't matter but I think this is a mistake. I don't see how you could take him in front of Newton. But like I said I don't pretend to know as much as they do. We will see how it plays out.
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If you're not on the coaching staff this is unfortunately is all you can do.
 
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VOL61 said:
I know.... I know....

I just can't picture a Simms running through the T. Plus you have to look at his dad.... The next thing you know his damn brother will be sitting in the stands.

I just can't believe this may happen. I am about to get sick....

I know it doesn't matter but I think this is a mistake. I don't see how you could take him in front of Newton. But like I said I don't pretend to know as much as they do. We will see how it plays out.
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I honestly do not see how anyone could take simms over Newton either. I agree completely with your post
 
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justingroves said:
I don't believe JUCO QBs do much for your program.

I also think it's funny that people drool over Newton's measurables.
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Well, It looks like the coaching staff disagree's....

I don't think playing Bray as a true freshmen is the answer. And at least this week it seems coach Kiffin feels the same way. We need depth at QB. That will require signing a QB for 2011. Playing Bray makes that harder.

Newtons measurables are impressive to say the least. The numbers he is putting up at Blinn are impressive as well. He has a big time arm and he is physically ready to play in the SEC. The mental part is the question. No one on the board knows if the kid can handle that part or not. I don't care how smart they try to make themselves sound. The coaches will determine what course to take. I like Newton the best but like I said earlier they know what they want.

But it appears to be a Juco....
 
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Sabanocchio said:
I just don't see how Kiffin can turn down a talent like Newton. He very well may, but I don't see how. You work those guys into your system. This dude is a stud.
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+1. Simms would represent another guy on the depth chart, much like Lamaison (although I still think NL has enough potential to surprise a lot of folks)...whereas Cam would only be brought in for one thing...the expectation to win the starting job and help get CLK's wins sooner rather than later.

I think Bray can very well make a solid bid for the starting job, but there would be more growing pains involved than leaning on Newton, IMHO.
Newton is a slightly used Lexus, whereas M. Simms is a Chevey Lumina, if you will.
 
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VOL61 said:
Well, It looks like the coaching staff disagree's....

I don't think playing Bray as a true freshmen is the answer. And at least this week it seems coach Kiffin feels the same way. We need depth at QB. That will require signing a QB for 2011. Playing Bray makes that harder.

Newtons measurables are impressive to say the least. The numbers he is putting up at Blinn are impressive as well. He has a big time arm and he is physically ready to play in the SEC. The mental part is the question. No one on the board knows if the kid can handle that part or not. I don't care how smart they try to make themselves sound. The coaches will determine what course to take. I like Newton the best but like I said earlier they know what they want.

But it appears to be a Juco....
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A JUCO QB is like buying a front tire for your vehicle with 20,000 miles on it.

I believe Kiffin will bring in another JUCO QB this year. He almost has to because Stephens and Lamaison aren't going to be doing much. Bray will be a bean pole freshman.

However, no one should think the JUCO QB is going to be a savior for the program. He'll be a stopgap at best, a wasted scholly at worst.
 
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justingroves said:
A JUCO QB is like buying a front tire for your vehicle with 20,000 miles on it.

I believe Kiffin will bring in another JUCO QB this year. He almost has to because Stephens and Lamaison aren't going to be doing much. Bray will be a bean pole freshman.

However, no one should think the JUCO QB is going to be a savior for the program. He'll be a stopgap at best, a wasted scholly at worst.
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I haven't seen anyone say Newton or Simms for that matter is going to be a Savior. But I think it is clearly the best option we have....

From your post I guess you feel like we aren't going to win many games next year?
 
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justingroves said:
A JUCO QB is like buying a front tire for your vehicle with 20,000 miles on it.

I believe Kiffin will bring in another JUCO QB this year. He almost has to because Stephens and Lamaison aren't going to be doing much. Bray will be a bean pole freshman.

However, no one should think the JUCO QB is going to be a savior for the program. He'll be a stopgap at best, a wasted scholly at worst.
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Under normal circumstances that is the case, but you and I both know, these aren't normal JUCO prospects, so please stop it with the JUCO = No good BUMS lecture

As LV has pointed out...sometimes you can find a real gem....like Josh Huepel and Colt Brennan.
Both cases here are unique (with Simms and Newton), and for that reason, they may work out quite well.
Both guys were highly rated in HS. Newton was a 5*...and you don't find too many of those hanging out in the JUCO ranks.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
Under normal circumstances that is the case, but you and I both know, these aren't normal JUCO prospects, so please stop it with the JUCO = No good BUMS lecture

As LV has pointed out...sometimes you can find a real gem....like Josh Huepel and Colt Brennan.
Both cases here are unique (with Simms and Newton), and for that reason, they may work out quite well.
Both guys were highly rated in HS. Newton was a 5*...and you don't find too many of those hanging out in the JUCO ranks.
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What is a normal JUCO prospect then? For every Josh Huepel there are a hundred Brent Schaeffers.

I'm not saying they suck, but a QB is a long term investment. A guy with two years of eligibility is not someone you are going to invest much time in.

I don't give a damn about stars. They're irrelevant once the game starts.
 
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