Lets give CLK and this staff some credit!

#26
#26
kiffinator13 said:
If you didn't notice, 1 pick was a 10 yd hitch. The other pick was a 12 yrd pass going to Cottam. Not exactly going down field. The 3rd pick of course was an overthrow to an absolutely wide open Gerald Jones. Get your facts straight. Fulmer is gone, so get over it; and we are sucking this year because of Fulmer's quarterback recruiting.
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Fulmer left us really screwed on the ol. We did turn away Fulmer's qb picks.
 
#28
#28
Fulmer was 2-2 against UCLA and played them in Pasadena 3 times.

Kiffinator - you are right. Crompton's picks were 10-30 yards down the field. Now go back and count how many times UCLA's QB threw the ball more than 5 yards down field.
 
#29
#29
kiffinator13 said:
Yea, I think you're argument is better since it is essentially saying that Crompton is alot better than UCLA's quarterback. That makes a lot of sense.:crazy:
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Show me when I said that and I will take it back. I didn't say that.
 
#30
#30
There seems to be a movement toward bringing CLK down. There are all kins of negative posts, articles, you name it about Lane Kiffin and how terrible things are. Even some sites with the name Vols in their titles. Kiffin has been compared with Sara Palin and who knows what else.

There was a pretty good machine who spread lots of info on Palin, whether it was true or not. The same thing is being done to Lane Kiffin.

If the fans don't support CLK, and the so called Vols media don't support CLK, what kind of chance does he have.

Coach Fulmer is gone, whether you agree with that or not. Are these supporters of his that are trying to wreck the Kiffin era. I don't know if it is or not. But why would supposed supporters be knifing Kiffin in the back. This is what's happening.

Anything that can be found from any source that speaks negative about Kiffin is posted and re-posted. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

True fans need to stand up for CLK. If he is destroyed, the team is destroyed. Why, for Fulmer? I hope this isn't the case.

Sore losers can do a lot of damage. Kiffin or not, our football team doesn't need to be decimated because they don't deserve this just for a lost cause, no matter what it is.

"Go Vols"...True fans support Kiffin and especially the team. They deserve your support. They play for us.
 
#31
#31
nbakerld said:
Both teams had inept QB's. Neuheisal coached his to virtually a mistake free game. They passed it down field like 3 times, and that was the difference. If they threw the ball downfield like we did they would have thrown 3 picks.
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Mistake free game? We held their QB and entire offence under 200 total yards and knocked that QB's teeth out and broke his jaw!! We did not lose because of prince or Neuheisal's coaching, we lost because our QB couldnt move the ball and keep it out of the other teams hands.
 
#32
#32
nbakerld said:
Fulmer was 2-2 against UCLA and played them in Pasadena 3 times.

Kiffinator - you are right. Crompton's picks were 10-30 yards down the field. Now go back and count how many times UCLA's QB threw the ball more than 5 yards down field.
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I can think of a couple third down conversions where he threw it around 12-15 yds. Anyway, do you honestly believe if Neuhisel could have gotten a receiver as open as Jones was that he wouldn't have thrown it?
 
#33
#33
BJ Coleman was Cutcliffe's QB. He was the one sold on that kid as I remember. Anyone want to take jabs at Cutcliffe?
 
#35
#35
kiffinator13 said:
I can think of a couple third down conversions where he threw it around 12-15 yds. Anyway, do you honestly believe if Neuhisel could have gotten a receiver as open as Jones was that he wouldn't have thrown it?
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They didn't risk it. They tried it once and it should have been picked by Rogan. Since you can't foresee the future and know when somebody is going to be open the coach can't make that decision. He can tell the player to dump the ball in the flat on every play. That's how I remember them converting all those 3rd downs (and their TD).
 
#36
#36
VolMaster14 said:
Mistake free game? We held their QB and entire offence under 200 total yards and knocked that QB's teeth out and broke his jaw!! We did not lose because of prince or Neuheisal's coaching, we lost because our QB couldnt move the ball and keep it out of the other teams hands.
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Yet they won and only turned the ball over once.
 
#37
#37
nbakerld said:
Yeah in 16 years Fulmer lost twice to mid-majors. Wyoming was after he was "fired". It only took 2 games for Kiffin to get embarrassed.
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He's playing mostly with Fulmer's players. Are you going to throw him under the bus after one bad game? I think most people on this site believe we are much better off now than we would have been if Fulmer was still here. I don't consider UCLA a mid-major.
 
#39
#39
nbakerld said:
They didn't risk it. They tried it once and it should have been picked by Rogan. Since you can't foresee the future and know when somebody is going to be open the coach can't make that decision. He can tell the player to dump the ball in the flat on every play. That's how I remember them converting all those 3rd downs (and their TD).
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Then you must not remember the two slants of about 15 yds they hit us with. Bottomline, we were equally as conservative with our qb and even more conservative in the second half than they were, and Crapton sucks so bad that he still lost us the game. Can't blame Kiffin for this one.
 
#40
#40
My point is Crompton sucks. You can work around that. Especially since most of the teams we play have inept QB's. I hope Kiffin does better. I like Kiffin, and I'll support him against rival fans, but "giving him credit" right now when we'd be crucifying Fulmer if he lost that game is just asenine. I don't want Fulmer back. I'm using it as an example of how foolish this is.
 
#41
#41
nbakerld said:
Yeah in 16 years Fulmer lost twice to mid-majors. Wyoming was after he was "fired". It only took 2 games for Kiffin to get embarrassed.
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I'm sorry... I really like CPF and look forward to the day when he and his supporters have come to terms and can put everything in proper perspective.

That said, CPF is largely responsible for how thin UT's OL is. He's totally responsible for not having done a better job of recruiting the QB position. Most of the guys who got muscled around by a "soft" Pac10 team on Saturday are "his" guys.

FTR, I think he only had 2 home games during his HC career against Pac10 teams so that's not quite the feat you made it out to be.
 
#42
#42
nbakerld said:
My point is Crompton sucks. You can work around that. Especially since most of the teams we play have inept QB's. I hope Kiffin does better. I like Kiffin, and I'll support him against rival fans, but "giving him credit" right now when we'd be crucifying Fulmer if he lost that game is just asenine. I don't want Fulmer back. I'm using it as an example of how foolish this is.
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The credit that Kiffin is due right now is his amazing recruiting and the fact that it seems that we have improved at almost every position on the field other than qb.
 
#44
#44
So everyone's point is that the others can't be any worse than Crompton. Look at what you are saying. That means they can't be anybetter either. Why screw up wht timing the team has with Crompton, just for the sake of changing to a QB that isn't better.

And, by the way, How well did that work last year.

Get a grip people. Do you really think that if CLK thought any of the others would do better he would have named them starting QB in the first place.

Maybe a little support will help..Try it..You amy like it.
 
#45
#45
sjt18 said:
FTR, I think he only had 2 home games during his HC career against Pac10 teams so that's not quite the feat you made it out to be.
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That's true, but the 2 he did beat he beat by more than 2 TD's and one of them finished ranked #14. We just lost to a team that will probably finish with a losing record.
 
#46
#46
IMO Fulmer supporters are trying to bring CLK down...Even websites with Vols in their titles. Pay attention to some of their posts.
 
#47
#47
TnVols47 said:
So everyone's point is that the others can't be any worse than Crompton. Look at what you are saying. That means they can't be anybetter either. Why screw up wht timing the team has with Crompton, just for the sake of changing to a QB that isn't better.

And, by the way, How well did that work last year.

Get a grip people. Do you really think that if CLK thought any of the others would do better he would have named them starting QB in the first place.

Maybe a little support will help..Try it..You amy like it.
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Give me a break; we threw for 90 yds. There must not be much timing. I believe Kiffin will do the right thing and start Stephens post-Florida unless Crapton does something miraculous. I wish he would start Stephens against Florida, but I can see the cons involved with that as well.
 
#48
#48
UCLA was hella lucky. They had 6 fumbles and recovered 5 of them. The one just before the half was the luckiest crap I ever saw. Berry was taking it to the house and the ball just happens to bounce right back to the only UCLA player around (who was immobilized).
 
#50
#50
kiffinator13 said:
The credit that Kiffin is due right now is his amazing recruiting and the fact that it seems that we have improved at almost every position on the field other than qb.
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Thank you!!! That was my whole point of this thread! Are we 2-0? NO, but we are better than last year and CLK currently has a top 4 recruiting class!
 
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