Gerrymandering in Virginia

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#776
OHvol40 said:
Declared legal by a heavily partisan SC. Chief justice has certainly noticed the public sentiment, commenting on it recently, even inferring that they are in danger of being “Cavalier” in overturning precedent.
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"heavily partisan Supreme Court"
 
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85SugarVol said:
The US population is ~60% white. Which party does that race support?
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A majority of whites have voted Republican the last 50 years, with a significant minority of whites voting Democrat and even fewer Independent. Any others you want to break down?
 
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OHvol40 said:
Declared legal by a heavily partisan SC. Chief justice has certainly noticed the public sentiment, commenting on it recently, even inferring that they are in danger of being “Cavalier” in overturning precedent.
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what is the legal flaw in the argument of the majority? you can write it off as "heavily partisan" but can you point to the Constitutional flaws?

sounds like you favor race-based gerrymandering even though you claim to be against gerrymandering
 
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volinbham said:
what is the legal flaw in the argument of the majority? you can write it off as "heavily partisan" but can you point to the Constitutional flaws?

sounds like you favor race-based gerrymandering even though you claim to be against gerrymandering
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I’m against any gerrymandering, no matter how much it “sounds like” to you to the contrary.

Yes, the majority practiced some serious cognitive dissonance in ruling that racial gerrymandering is illegal while partisan gerrymandering is just fine, all while ignoring the fact that the whole reason the VRA was necessary in the first place was because of racially-motivated Jim Crow. Now, the same states that enacted Jim Crow have a green light to gerrymander under the thin “partisan” veil, that just happens to fold majority black districts into counties with just enough Republican base to nullify the former majority black district. Plain and simple. It nullifies the VRA, section 2.

It’s so bad that Robert’s felt it was necessary to come out and point out that despite public opinion, they are not part of partisan politics… which of course with this bunch in DC, every denial and accusation is often an admission.
 
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#785
No one is actually getting "represented" anyway. Democrat, Republican, it doesn't matter. Neither serves their constituents. They serve their party. They don't give a damn about the populace. All you're really choosing is what party you want in power. And they don't even give us good choices. They run complete dipshits. And the sheep elect these dipshits. It's pointless.
 
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OHvol40 said:
A majority of whites have voted Republican the last 50 years, with a significant minority of whites voting Democrat and even fewer Independent. Any others you want to break down?
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~55-60% of whites favor Republican, so upwards of 40% favor Democrat. That’s “sharply divided”, but certainly not in the manner you were implying.

2024 Election: According to 2024 NBC News Exit Polls, 57% of white voters supported the Republican candidate, while 42% supported the Democrat. [1, 2, 3, 4]
 
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85SugarVol said:
~55-60% of whites favor Republican, so upwards of 40% favor Democrat. That’s “sharply divided”, but certainly not in the manner you were implying.

2024 Election: According to 2024 NBC News Exit Polls, 57% of white voters supported the Republican candidate, while 42% supported the Democrat. [1, 2, 3, 4]
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You’re the one that cherry picked whites and wanted and explanation, I gave you one that was correct. Now, if you want to be thorough you’ll keep going.
 
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#789
OHvol40 said:
You’re the one that cherry picked whites and wanted and explanation, I gave you one that was correct. Now, if you want to be thorough you’ll keep going.
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“cherry picked”? The largest example is a cherry pick lol? 😂

OHvol40 said:
politics is largely divided sharply based on race,
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These are your words. Politics is divided based on race.

Clearly they are not. The largest single race in the US, comprising roughly 60% of the population, is divided.

But by all means, keep trying to move the goal posts.
 
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rikberry31 said:
🐂💩. He wrongly said the 14th Amendment, he clarified that. He was talking about Article 2 of the Voting Rights Act being in violation of the 14th Amendment. Which the Supreme Court did overturn. Not the 14th Amendment you 🤡.

www.alreporter.com

Full exchange undercuts claims Ledbetter called for ending 14th Amendment

Speaker says remarks were misconstrued during discussion of Alabama’s congressional map litigation now moving toward Supreme Court review.
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That's a pretty significant miss. It's kind of like saying Baton Rouge when you mean Osaka. Could that have been wishful thinking?
 
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rikberry31 said:
They would still violate the U.S. Supreme Court ruling and would be wasting their time. The Virginia Supreme Court knew that. It's a moot point.
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You haven't been paying attention. Look carefully at the VaSC's decision and see what Spanberger et al did wrong. They can run it through again unless there's a time lockout between attempts.
 
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#795
OHvol40 said:
Maybe it’s because too many of you fools lack nuance, you’re not even asking a relevant question. Nobody is complaining about the right to vote, the issue is having your representatives chosen for you through political engineering rather than the other way around, you know, they way it was designed originally.
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And you yankees aren't doing it? Give me a break. The South has been catering to the yankees long enough. F'em.
 
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Gerrymandering originated in March 1812 in Massachusetts, when Governor Elbridge Gerry signed a partisan redistricting bill that created a distorted, monster-shaped district in Essex County designed to help his Democratic-Republican Party. A local newspaper editor, upon seeing a map of the district, noted it looked like a "salamander," prompting a witty retort that it was a "Gerry-mander"
 
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85SugarVol said:
“cherry picked”? The largest example is a cherry pick lol? 😂


These are your words. Politics is divided based on race.

Clearly they are not. The largest single race in the US, comprising roughly 60% of the population, is divided.

But by all means, keep trying to move the goal posts.
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Maybe the wording screwed you up. That’s ok. Let’s try this:

“Race heavily influences American politics, acting as a key determinant in voter alignment, party affiliation, and policy debates. White voters are statistically more likely to support the Republican Party, while Black, Hispanic, and Asian voters tend to align with the Democratic Party, creating a deeply divided electoral”

 
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