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#127
The drug question I answered neutral because not all drugs are created equal in terms of overall societal risk and impact.

Also, for the victimless crimes being punished I answered "Disagree". This is because I think there should be a focus on rehabilitation rather than pure punishment when there is no victim (Thinking about drug or illegal gambling addictions).
 
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#129
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SpaceCoastVol said:
No they shouldn't. You know any heroine addicts? I ****ing do.
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What good does throwing an addict in jail do for anyone? Get out of jail and go back to the same lifestyle. Government needs less control over what someone does that’s not infringing on others

My childhood bsf became addicted to every drug imaginable and OD’d on fent 4 years ago
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Really? Do go on. Explain that to me.

@Skooter actually articulated what I was saying. I didn't care if you **** goats or other men..... until you want special privileges because of that. Then I do. There are some black and white issues and some that aren't. You can't boil them down to this Cosmo quiz. It cracks me up has many of y'all are acting like this tells who you really are.

Should drugs be legal? I know a guy who is relapsing as we speak into heroine addiction. I don't GAF of you smoke weed, but he might kill himself. Should drugs be legal? You tell me. Congrats on making a very complex issue into a stupid ****ing Teen magazine quiz.
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I think you’re the one taking this more seriously than anyone else
 
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Smokey123 said:
This was a big reason why my stance on drugs have changed over the years. If throwing people in jail for drugs doesn’t even help the issue what’s the point?

We have people who constantly talk about fatherless households yet they are the ones who have the strongest stance on drugs
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Same, and for me also the realization that decriminalization of heroin (for example) also allows for a lot more resources such as mobile treatment centers, substitution treatments to help wean people off, no more dirty needles etc. In fairness you can do some of that stuff without legalization but many right wingers lose their minds if any city does it
 
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NashVol11 said:
Same, and for me also the realization that decriminalization of heroin (for example) also allows for a lot more resources such as mobile treatment centers, substitution treatments to help wean people off, no more dirty needles etc. In fairness you can do some of that stuff without legalization but many right wingers lose their minds if any city does it
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Decriminalizing is a dumb policy, it allows the criminals to remain in control of the market. Legalize
 
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hog88 said:
I think drugs should be legal and regulated the same way booze is.
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I'll ask you then. How's that working in California? I think they GIVE away needles and **** in SFO. NO ONE should be shooting heroine in their arms. NO ONE should be shooting/snorting cocaine. NO ONE should be shooting/smoking fentanyl or meth. You are completely FOS if you believe they should. The problem is that we don't enforce drunk driving laws as it is. You think having a bunch of out of their mind meth heads are going to be forced to follow the law?
 
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NashVol11 said:
Same, and for me also the realization that decriminalization of heroin (for example) also allows for a lot more resources such as mobile treatment centers, substitution treatments to help wean people off, no more dirty needles etc. In fairness you can do some of that stuff without legalization but many right wingers lose their minds if any city does it
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I think they GIVE away needles and **** in SFO.
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See what I mean
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I'll ask you then. How's that working in California? I think they GIVE away needles and **** in SFO. NO ONE should be shooting heroine in their arms. NO ONE should be shooting/snorting cocaine. NO ONE should be shooting/smoking fentanyl or meth. You are completely FOS if you believe they should. The problem is that we don't enforce drunk driving laws as it is. You think having a bunch of out of their mind meth heads are going to be forced to follow the law?
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I agree, nobody should be doing drugs but if an adult wants to use that poison then fine. They should be able to legally use and be certain that the drugs they use are not tainted/laced or what have you.

As to the drunk driving laws, I've made myself clear about how I feel about those. There should be no penalty for drunk driving, drunk crashing should result in stiff and painful penalties.
 
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Smokey123 said:
How would it go about being regulated? Go to a pharmacy and pick up some meth? Limit how much someone can buy?
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Regulate the production of the drugs, that would be the key benefit. There’s a reason no one worries about their weed from the dispensary being laced with fent…
I came of age during the mid to late 90s - none of us were worried about what our pills were mixed with. Our only “worry” was whether we were getting good ones.

As for the sale - no different than alcohol.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Same, and for me also the realization that decriminalization of heroin (for example) also allows for a lot more resources such as mobile treatment centers, substitution treatments to help wean people off, no more dirty needles etc. In fairness you can do some of that stuff without legalization but many right wingers lose their minds if any city does it
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Ya there obviously is a serious problem here and the war on drugs was an absolute failure. I’m sure my opinion on it will keep evolving, im just not sure if full on legalization and regulating it won’t enable addicts but at the same time it’s not the governments job to stop them. Idk
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Damn, sorry to hear that.
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Thanks… It is what it is. He had a really rough family dynamic with members in prison and he started using at a young age
 
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Smokey123 said:
Ya there obviously is a serious problem here and the war on drugs was an absolute failure. I’m sure my opinion on it will keep evolving, im just not sure if full on legalization and regulating it won’t enable addicts but at the same time it’s not the governments job to stop them. Idk

Thanks… It is what it is. He had a really rough family dynamic with members in prison and he started using at a young age
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Of course I have no data to back it up but I doubt that we'd see a noticeable rise in drug addicts if they were legalized. I doubt most people that don't use drugs refrain because they are illegal.

Legalize, regulate like alcohol and allow employers to set their own drug use and testing policy.
 
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