New York City

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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
LMFAO .... I bet this new plan of taxing the rich more & more will keep them from moving out.
What a stupid moron the democrats and this socialist idiot in taxing the rich will solve problems.
These fools need to wake the hell up and kick this free loader out of office & to the curb.
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"Ask". He'll "ask" wealthy people to pay a little more. And if they decline, he will "ask" them to surrender their properties.
 
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NashVol11 said:
COVID was the only time NYC metro was declining in population if ever, I'm shocked you have no idea what you're talking about (again)
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It is you who have no idea,
After Covid there was a surge and the illegals. That is all.

New York City’s population grew by 87,000 between July 2023 and July 2024, reaching 8,478,000. • All five boroughs grew between mid-2023 and mid-2024, led by population increases in Manhattan, which was also the first borough to begin growing again after losses early in the pandemic.

New York City’s population declined in 2025, resulting in a net loss of about 12,000 people. The drop follows post-pandemic gains of 70,000 in 2023 and 163,000 in 2024, driven largely by increased immigration, including asylum seekers, according to an April 20 report from the Citizens Budget Commission.

"Population growth in 2023 and 2024 was driven by the upswing in international in-migration, primarily a surge of migrants and asylum seekers," the report noted. "In 2025, the trend once again reversed as tighter immigration policy reduced international in-migration by 70 percent and domestic out-migration ticked up."
 
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rikberry31 said:
It is you who have no idea,
After Covid there was a surge and the illegals. That is all.

New York City’s population grew by 87,000 between July 2023 and July 2024, reaching 8,478,000. • All five boroughs grew between mid-2023 and mid-2024, led by population increases in Manhattan, which was also the first borough to begin growing again after losses early in the pandemic.

New York City’s population declined in 2025, resulting in a net loss of about 12,000 people. The drop follows post-pandemic gains of 70,000 in 2023 and 163,000 in 2024, driven largely by increased immigration, including asylum seekers, according to an April 20 report from the Citizens Budget Commission.

"Population growth in 2023 and 2024 was driven by the upswing in international in-migration, primarily a surge of migrants and asylum seekers," the report noted. "In 2025, the trend once again reversed as tighter immigration policy reduced international in-migration by 70 percent and domestic out-migration ticked up."
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I have to teach you what a metropolitan area is too? Gets tiring

New York City Metro Area Population (1950-2026) | MacroTrends

Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the New York City metro area from 1950 to 2026.
www.macrotrends.net www.macrotrends.net
 
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NashVol11 said:
I have to teach you what a metropolitan area is too? Gets tiring

New York City Metro Area Population (1950-2026) | MacroTrends

Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the New York City metro area from 1950 to 2026.
www.macrotrends.net www.macrotrends.net
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You better teach yourself. 🤡


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For decades, New York City prided itself on being the financial capital of the world. It’s a place where money, culture, and power converge. And yet, as has been seen in San Francisco, Chicago, and other locations around the US, New York is experiencing a steady exodus of millionaires and ultra-high-net-worth individuals. While some observers dismiss this as anecdotal or exaggerated, the facts paint a different picture: one with serious implications for the city’s fiscal health, social fabric, and attractiveness.

It is easy to forget that New York’s gleaming infrastructure, vast public services, and social programs are underwritten disproportionately by a tiny number of residents. Fewer than one percent of taxpayers account for more than 40 percent of all income tax revenue collected in the state, and a similar share in the city. Without those individuals, the ability of millions of ordinary New Yorkers to enjoy subsidized transit, robust public safety services, and cultural investments would collapse. In other words, and despite endless egalitarian rhetoric, the lifestyle of the masses is silently carried on the shoulders of the few.

The scale of the loss is becoming visible. Between 2019 and 2020, the number of New Yorkers earning between $150,000 and $750,000 fell by nearly six percent, while the number of true high earners — those making over $750,000 — dropped by nearly 10 percent, according to the city’s Independent Budget Office. This erosion matters because the city’s top one percent — about 41,000 filers — pay more than 40 percent of all income taxes. The top 10 percent pay about two-thirds. Which means the remaining 90 percent of taxpayers contribute only about one-third of the city’s income tax revenue. When even a small share of these high earners disappears, the impact is seismic.

Recent migration trends confirm the damage. More than 125,000 New Yorkers have fled to Florida in just the past few years, carrying nearly $14 billion worth of income with them, according to the Citizens Budget Commission. About a third of those movers — more than 41,000 people — went to Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Broward Counties between 2018 and 2022. Those escapes alone stripped New York City of an estimated $10 billion in adjusted gross income. When money and mobility align, no amount of political rhetoric can stop people from voting with their feet.

Into this fragile situation steps Zohran Mamdani, whose mayoral primary victory has been accompanied by a platform that includes a new “millionaire’s tax.” His proposal would tack on an additional two-percent levy for New Yorkers earning more than $1 million a year, raising the combined city and state top rate to 16.776 percent — by far the highest in the nation. Add federal obligations, and the total burden would rise to nearly 54 percent. That is not just taxation; it is confiscation.
The most striking irony of this government-greed-driven exodus is that the very policies promoted as remedies for inequality are accelerating a new divide. On one side are jurisdictions with extractive tax regimes like New York, which are increasingly reliant on a shrinking base of wealthy residents. On the other side are “merely high-tax” or moderate-tax states that calibrate their revenue needs without driving out their most productive citizens. In attempting to punish the “haves” in the name of the “have-nots,” New York is in the process of creating an even sharper divide between places where the wealthy live and places they have left behind. The intended redistribution becomes a geographic one, with capital, philanthropy, and jobs following the departing millionaires.
 
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They are bleeding rich people and business you 🤡. Prove that wrong, Won't be long and Wall Street will be in Texas.
I personally know a couple businessmen that moved their enterprises to Florida because it was impossible to do business in New York. They both said it has just started. You libs are losing everywhere and on everything.
 
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rikberry31 said:
You better teach yourself. 🤡


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For decades, New York City prided itself on being the financial capital of the world. It’s a place where money, culture, and power converge. And yet, as has been seen in San Francisco, Chicago, and other locations around the US, New York is experiencing a steady exodus of millionaires and ultra-high-net-worth individuals. While some observers dismiss this as anecdotal or exaggerated, the facts paint a different picture: one with serious implications for the city’s fiscal health, social fabric, and attractiveness.

It is easy to forget that New York’s gleaming infrastructure, vast public services, and social programs are underwritten disproportionately by a tiny number of residents. Fewer than one percent of taxpayers account for more than 40 percent of all income tax revenue collected in the state, and a similar share in the city. Without those individuals, the ability of millions of ordinary New Yorkers to enjoy subsidized transit, robust public safety services, and cultural investments would collapse. In other words, and despite endless egalitarian rhetoric, the lifestyle of the masses is silently carried on the shoulders of the few.

The scale of the loss is becoming visible. Between 2019 and 2020, the number of New Yorkers earning between $150,000 and $750,000 fell by nearly six percent, while the number of true high earners — those making over $750,000 — dropped by nearly 10 percent, according to the city’s Independent Budget Office. This erosion matters because the city’s top one percent — about 41,000 filers — pay more than 40 percent of all income taxes. The top 10 percent pay about two-thirds. Which means the remaining 90 percent of taxpayers contribute only about one-third of the city’s income tax revenue. When even a small share of these high earners disappears, the impact is seismic.

Recent migration trends confirm the damage. More than 125,000 New Yorkers have fled to Florida in just the past few years, carrying nearly $14 billion worth of income with them, according to the Citizens Budget Commission. About a third of those movers — more than 41,000 people — went to Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Broward Counties between 2018 and 2022. Those escapes alone stripped New York City of an estimated $10 billion in adjusted gross income. When money and mobility align, no amount of political rhetoric can stop people from voting with their feet.

Into this fragile situation steps Zohran Mamdani, whose mayoral primary victory has been accompanied by a platform that includes a new “millionaire’s tax.” His proposal would tack on an additional two-percent levy for New Yorkers earning more than $1 million a year, raising the combined city and state top rate to 16.776 percent — by far the highest in the nation. Add federal obligations, and the total burden would rise to nearly 54 percent. That is not just taxation; it is confiscation.
The most striking irony of this government-greed-driven exodus is that the very policies promoted as remedies for inequality are accelerating a new divide. On one side are jurisdictions with extractive tax regimes like New York, which are increasingly reliant on a shrinking base of wealthy residents. On the other side are “merely high-tax” or moderate-tax states that calibrate their revenue needs without driving out their most productive citizens. In attempting to punish the “haves” in the name of the “have-nots,” New York is in the process of creating an even sharper divide between places where the wealthy live and places they have left behind. The intended redistribution becomes a geographic one, with capital, philanthropy, and jobs following the departing millionaires.
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Your response to being proven wrong is to post an opinion piece lol, that's not going to change the numbers. Not only does NYC metro grow each year, its millionaire population does as well
 
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"All the people are leaving"
(Nope)
"Well, all the rich people are leaving"
(Nope)
"Well, uh...all the, uh...good people are leaving"

Alright man lol
 
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NashVol11 said:
Lol, there were more than twice as many murders per year when Giuliani was mayor compared to now. You should read less propaganda

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I was in NYC in the seventies and then again in the nineties. Night and day difference. I remember telling my wife how bad it was and we went and she said, "It's nothing like you said."
Also crime is not reported like it was years ago. A lot of crime today is unrecognized the keepers of record. One third of cities do not report 50% of crime to the FBI, which is where those stats come from.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I was in NYC in the seventies and then again in the nineties. Night and day difference. I remember telling my wife how bad it was and we went and she said, "It's nothing like you said."
Also crime is not reported like it was years ago. A lot of crime today is unrecognized the keepers of record. One third of cities do not report 50% of crime to the FBI, which is where those stats come from.
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No, those are NYPD stats and murders don't just "go unreported." It was safer in the late '90s than the '70s and it's even safer than that now.

There's data further back here, too: murders over 1K and as high as 2K from 1969-1995, and 303 last year

Crime in New York City - Wikipedia

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NashVol11 said:
No, those are NYPD stats and murders don't just "go unreported." It was safer in the late '90s than the '70s and it's even safer than that now.

There's data further back here, too: murders over 1K and as high as 2K from 1969-1995, and 303 last year

Crime in New York City - Wikipedia

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The stats may say crime is down, but the people say different. Crime is fought and reported differently now than it was years ago. No more"broken window" crime fighting, no more stop and frisk. Comparing now to 30 years ago is like apples to oranges.
Example: High school graduation rates are much higher today than 30 years ago. If you think today's students are better educated, you are a fool. But the numbers say they are. I am very familiar with stats and they can easily be manipulated, like any science.
 
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