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LouderVol said:
I would love to see the break down on the tech and material.

my understanding was a lot of the IEDs in both Afghanistan and Iraq were old weapon stockpiles. some that we had given them. there isn't a lot of "tech" involved. and at least with the Afghans its pretty clear that we taught and supplied them to fight the Soviets, its naive as all get out to to think that the Afghanis completely forgot how to make IEDs, and completely got rid of their old stockpiles and were 100% reliant on Iranian stuff.
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Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) in Iraq and Afghanistan: Effects and Countermeasures

DOD officials reportedly captured four Iranian terrorists in July 2007 who are accused of smuggling explosives and personnel from Iran into Iraq.12 Iran is suspected of supplying Iraq insurgents with IEDs, training, and new designs and technology for explosive devices, such as “passive infrared” electronic sensors that are used for triggering roadside bombs. The new sensors are more resistant to electromagnetic countermeasures now employed by U.S. forces. DOD officials also suspect that Iran is supplying Iraq insurgents with a more lethal IED bomb design called an explosively formed projectile (EFP). An EFP is made from a pipe filled with explosives and capped by a specially shaped metal disk. When the explosives detonate, they transform the disk into a jet of molten metal capable of penetrating armor. EFPs reportedly strike with enough power to cause pieces of a targeted vehicle’s heavy armor to turn into shrapnel, making them much more deadly than traditional IED weapons. DOD officials report there were 69 attacks utilizing EFPs in April 2007.
 
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Fun coupon VOL said:
Might as well post from the inner circle of the communist regime with those sources.
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Stick your head in the sand if you want. Trump's put a lot of friendly countries in a bind energy-wise and handed PRC a great opportunity to take advantage. He did the country no favors by letting Bibi pull us into their war.
 
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utvolpj said:
How many would be hurt or killed if we didn't make the massive f up of going to Iraq and making them targets? How many innocent lives were lost because of the US intervention in the ME for the past 25yrs? You complain about thousands while ignoring millions. That's the true history
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I agree, the days of being the world's policeman should be over. That being said, you can't bury your head in the sand and ignore present circumstances. People who dwell on ancient history are miserable, learn yes, dwell no. Fact is that at this moment Iran was a problem and needed dealt with.
Do you think we we justified in WWII? The same argument was made against going to war. Just like blaming others for your problem or excusing your bad behavior by pointing to others, pointing to the past does not fix the now. We are fixing it.
 
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trout-vol said:
European leaders are getting their resume ready to lead the European union. That's all they're doing. They the don't care about their countrymen. Why else would they allow their country to be demolished by 3rd world fanatics
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They are irrelevant and they don't realize it. Hopefully we woke up in time that we don't follow them.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Our national debt now is more than our GDP. None of the other numbers are spectacular
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Look at what was done after WWII. The same will be done again and it won't matter. You don't really understand how debt and the Fed work. Trump gets it and it will all change on May 15th. In simplistic terms lower the interest rates equals lowering the national debt.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Look at what was done after WWII. The same will be done again and it won't matter. You don't really understand how debt and the Fed work. Trump gets it and it will all change on May 15th. In simplistic terms lower the interest rates equals lowering the national debt.
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I have a thorough understanding of it. It appears you have absolutely no understanding of it. Yes, your explanation of it is extremely simplistic
 
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LouderVol said:
I don't think I ever said we were losing the war. Pretty sure that is just another claim you made up.

The comparison I make is back to Afghanistan. We never lost there, but we didn't achieve our goals. and it cost lives and money. so no I don't think we are "losing", but winning is hard to see.
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Well you maybe correct in so many words but you have been completely wrong on the state of what's going on. And you sure are rooting against the home team.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Well you maybe correct in so many words but you have been completely wrong on the state of what's going on. And you sure are rooting against the home team.
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show me rooting against the home team?

Its more like I am calling the HC a DA for running a HB draw on 3rd and 20 against an 8 man front. still a fan of the team, just not what its doing.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I agree, the days of being the world's policeman should be over. That being said, you can't bury your head in the sand and ignore present circumstances. People who dwell on ancient history are miserable, learn yes, dwell no. Fact is that at this moment Iran was a problem and needed dealt with.
Do you think we we justified in WWII? The same argument was made against going to war. Just like blaming others for your problem or excusing your bad behavior by pointing to others, pointing to the past does not fix the now. We are fixing it.
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You're seriously comparing ww2 to Iraq?
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I have a thorough understanding of it. It appears you have absolutely no understanding of it. Yes, your explanation of it is extremely simplistic
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The debt itself is irrelevant. What is important is the Debt to GDP Ratio. We never reduced the debt after WWII but the Debt to GDP was was reduced five fold. That makes all the difference. The Fed is not part of the government, they are independant. How it works is that they lower interest rates below inflation rate and people are required to buy bonds at that rate. There are laws put in place after the war that require retirement funds and such to invest in government bonds.

Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA), and the practical need to match long-term liabilities with secure assets, encourages or effectively requires pension funds to hold significant amounts of government securities.

Add to that that the Fed basically can loan money to the government by printing it and the debt is really no big deal.
 
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rikberry31 said:
The debt itself is irrelevant. What is important is the Debt to GDP Ratio. We never reduced the debt after WWII but the Debt to GDP was was reduced five fold. That makes all the difference. The Fed is not part of the government, they are independant. How it works is that they lower interest rates below inflation rate and people are required to buy bonds at that rate. There are laws put in place after the war that require retirement funds and such to invest in government bonds.

Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA), and the practical need to match long-term liabilities with secure assets, encourages or effectively requires pension funds to hold significant amounts of government securities.

Add to that that the Fed basically can loan money to the government by printing it and the debt is really no big deal.
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I thought I was reading a TurboMonty post
 
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85SugarVol said:
Nash posted something the other day that Debt to GDP had passed 100%

Not one word from TurboMonty assuring us that it was absolutely no problem at all…
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I like how they divide up public debt from Fed debt..like that matters. We passed that ratio milestone..or millstone, years ago.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Neither. Something in between but certainly closer to the former than it being a historical success.

No, we haven't put China on its heels
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I have stated my reasons for the success of this war and the negative impacts on China. You have stated what you wish was happening. Prove me wrong.
 
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Orangeburst said:
looks like it is back on.
wouldnt be surprised if the hardline core is doing this on their own to sabotage any progress
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Was inevitable. I don't see any sign Iran is willing to completely stop enriching, even to just 60 percent, and Trump has to have that politically, here at home. Anything less and people will ask what's changed.

Seems like Trump expected Iran to capitulate weeks ago, it hasn't happened, amd now he has set a standard that can't be met.
 
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