Iran

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LouderVol said:
ok, they aren't a major problem.

Until this, I can't think of anything in my life that would qualify them as a "major problem". mild irritant fits better.

they were a major problem with the kidnappings in the 70s, after that though its been a whole lot of nothing. I can't think of a single year where they would have been a Top 5 issue, and really only once even as a Top 10.

Tariffs, Covid, IRA, ACA, Afghanistan, Iraq War 2, Desert Storm, ISIS, heck the Evergrande getting stuck in the Suez was more impactful than Iran has been. China a problem. Heck Iran hasn't even made it to NK levels of testing nukes & missiles, and most people are calling NK a major issue.
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So thousands of American dead is a minor irritant? Yet you jump up and down about a dozen killed in this conflict. Psychos with nuclear weapons no threat?
We have trimmed China, taken control of every choke point in the world neutralized Iran and flipped the World order on its head and this is losing?
Congrats you have been enshrined in the Truth Deniers Hall of Fame.
 
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rikberry31 said:
So thousands of American dead is a minor irritant? Yet you jump up and down about a dozen killed in this conflict. Psychos with nuclear weapons no threat?
We have trimmed China, taken control of every choke point in the world neutralized Iran and flipped the World order on its head and this is losing?
Congrats you have been enshrined in the Truth Deniers Hall of Fame.
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what thousands of dead? Iran wasn't even majorly responsible for 9/11. we never even attacked them, or levied any penalties against them for their incredibly small role. we occupied Afghanistan for 20 years for their role, Iran got...nothing. for talking so much about results mattering, you sure do a good job of ignoring said results. Iran is on level with the Sauds as far as their role in 9/11 goes.

they don't have nukes.
they have been 2 weeks away for 47 years, forgive me if I no longer believe the boy who cried wolf.
we had already obliterated their centrifuges, so there was no way for them to enrich even if they were going to.
they are still decades behind North Korea in their nuclear program and missile program. we haven't invaded them in 70 years or so.

Have we taken the straights of Gibraltr? or what about the Suez? Panama canal still isn't ours. We can't even open up the Straight of Hormuz for non-combatants so we clearly don't control it. We never invaded Greenland for passage, Russia still owns half of the Bering straight, haven't done anything to increase our hold on the Strait of Malacca.

how have we changed the world order? Russia is still in Ukraine. China still has illusions of grandeur. BRICS is still going strong.

and you have to yet to show where I said we were losing. going to back up that claim for once?
 
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LouderVol said:
what thousands of dead? Iran wasn't even majorly responsible for 9/11. we never even attacked them, or levied any penalties against them for their incredibly small role. we occupied Afghanistan for 20 years for their role, Iran got...nothing. for talking so much about results mattering, you sure do a good job of ignoring said results. Iran is on level with the Sauds as far as their role in 9/11 goes.

they don't have nukes.
they have been 2 weeks away for 47 years, forgive me if I no longer believe the boy who cried wolf.
we had already obliterated their centrifuges, so there was no way for them to enrich even if they were going to.
they are still decades behind North Korea in their nuclear program and missile program. we haven't invaded them in 70 years or so.

Have we taken the straights of Gibraltr? or what about the Suez? Panama canal still isn't ours. We can't even open up the Straight of Hormuz for non-combatants so we clearly don't control it. We never invaded Greenland for passage, Russia still owns half of the Bering straight, haven't done anything to increase our hold on the Strait of Malacca.

how have we changed the world order? Russia is still in Ukraine. China still has illusions of grandeur. BRICS is still going strong.

and you have to yet to show where I said we were losing. going to back up that claim for once?
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Ok Truth Denier, how many Americans is Iran responsible for killing and maiming over the past fifty years? Almost every IED in that time had Iranian fingerprints all over it. Beirut bombing. October 7th.
 
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LouderVol said:
what thousands of dead? Iran wasn't even majorly responsible for 9/11. we never even attacked them, or levied any penalties against them for their incredibly small role. we occupied Afghanistan for 20 years for their role, Iran got...nothing. for talking so much about results mattering, you sure do a good job of ignoring said results. Iran is on level with the Sauds as far as their role in 9/11 goes.

they don't have nukes.
they have been 2 weeks away for 47 years, forgive me if I no longer believe the boy who cried wolf.
we had already obliterated their centrifuges, so there was no way for them to enrich even if they were going to.
they are still decades behind North Korea in their nuclear program and missile program. we haven't invaded them in 70 years or so.

Have we taken the straights of Gibraltr? or what about the Suez? Panama canal still isn't ours. We can't even open up the Straight of Hormuz for non-combatants so we clearly don't control it. We never invaded Greenland for passage, Russia still owns half of the Bering straight, haven't done anything to increase our hold on the Strait of Malacca.

how have we changed the world order? Russia is still in Ukraine. China still has illusions of grandeur. BRICS is still going strong.

and you have to yet to show where I said we were losing. going to back up that claim for once?
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You just said it. Everything has been a complete failure according to you, that's called losing.
 
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rikberry31 said:
So thousands of American dead is a minor irritant? Yet you jump up and down about a dozen killed in this conflict. Psychos with nuclear weapons no threat?
We have trimmed China, taken control of every choke point in the world neutralized Iran and flipped the World order on its head and this is losing?
Congrats you have been enshrined in the Truth Deniers Hall of Fame.
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You mean the World order where the Pentagon has confirmed Russia has been supplying targeting intelligence to Iran and Trump just ignored it and eased sanctions against Russia?

You got to be a troll. Nobody is this dumb
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
You mean the World order where the Pentagon has confirmed Russia has been supplying targeting intelligence to Iran and Trump just ignored it and eased sanctions against Russia?

You got to be a troll. Nobody is this dumb
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We have made the Russians and the Chinese look like idiots. Their equipment is junk and no match. Their "help" has really made a big difference, nope Iran was destroyed. They have proved to be useless to one of they most important "allies"/proxies. And the whole world was watching.
The Russians were allowed to export oil to ease the overall market pressure that missing Iranian oil has caused and it only applied to oil that was already at sea.
 
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rikberry31 said:
We have made the Russians and the Chinese look like idiots. Their equipment is junk and no match. Their "help" has really made a big difference, nope Iran was destroyed. They have proved to be useless to one of they most important "allies"/proxies. And the whole world was watching.
The Russians were allowed to export oil to ease the overall market pressure that missing Iranian oil has caused and it only applied to oil that was already at sea.
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The whole world thinks Trump is a clown
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
The whole world thinks Trump is a clown
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No that was Biden. If Trump was seen as a clown, how is it that he is strong arming every nation in trade deals and pretty much having his way around the globe? Truth is the world fears him and that is a good thing. People like you said the same thing about Reagan.
Besides when you say the whole world are including the 77 million Americans that voted for him or are they too stupid to be considered people?
 
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rikberry31 said:
No that was Biden. If Trump was seen as a clown, how is it that he is strong arming every nation in trade deals and pretty much having his way around the globe? Truth is the world fears him and that is a good thing. People like you said the same thing about Reagan.
Besides when you say the whole world are including the 77 million Americans that voted for him or are they too stupid to be considered people?
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I never said anything remotely close to that about Reagan. Trump is no Reagan. The world fears our military but Trump is thought of as a joke. You're as delusional about him as he is about himself
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I never said anything remotely close to that about Reagan. Trump is no Reagan. The world fears our military but Trump is thought of as a joke. You're as delusional about him as he is about himself
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I have no illusions when it comes to know who and what Trump is and I have said as much. I judge results. It would not upset me the surgeon that was about operate on my brain is an rude, arrogant, egotistical, terrible ahole. I care is he good with the knife.
Do your job, I could care less if you are the Good Humor Man.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I have no illusions when it comes to know who and what Trump is and I have said as much. I judge results. It would not upset me the surgeon that was about operate on my brain is an rude, arrogant, egotistical, terrible ahole. I care is he good with the knife.
Do your job, I could care less if you are the Good Humor Man.
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You're not equipped to offer any sort of accurate eval. It's like you just don't know any better. It's ok man. Trump is a mumbling joke, incompetent at his job
 
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rikberry31 said:
I have no illusions when it comes to know who and what Trump is and I have said as much. I judge results. It would not upset me the surgeon that was about operate on my brain is an rude, arrogant, egotistical, terrible ahole. I care is he good with the knife.
Do your job, I could care less if you are the Good Humor Man.
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Lol. In what world is Trump doing a good job? He's doing such a bad job that he's losing basically everybody who isn't a cult member. His popularity is in the toilet because he's forsaken the anti-war right, disappointed MAHA types, catholics are getting off the bus, and affordability is getting worse.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I have no illusions when it comes to know who and what Trump is and I have said as much. I judge results. It would not upset me the surgeon that was about operate on my brain is an rude, arrogant, egotistical, terrible ahole. I care is he good with the knife.
Do your job, I could care less if you are the Good Humor Man.
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Trump isn't a master surgeon he's more like a guy doing illegal BBLs out of his garage
 
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rikberry31 said:
No that was Biden. If Trump was seen as a clown, how is it that he is strong arming every nation in trade deals and pretty much having his way around the globe? Truth is the world fears him and that is a good thing. People like you said the same thing about Reagan.
Besides when you say the whole world are including the 77 million Americans that voted for him or are they too stupid to be considered people?
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No, it's definitely Trump, too, to a much greater extent. Both things can be true. Do you live under a rock? Biden was probably a relative unknown to the world, if we're bring honest (you're not).
 
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n_huffhines said:
Lol. In what world is Trump doing a good job? He's doing such a bad job that he's losing basically everybody who isn't a cult member. His popularity is in the toilet because he's forsaken the anti-war right, disappointed MAHA types, catholics are getting off the bus, and affordability is getting worse.
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Yep. Last polling I saw shows his overall support at around 37% (lowest level of the new term) and at 19% approval for his handling of the war. 51% think it has been handled poorly.

All I know is that folks still vote their pocketbook before anything else. If the cost of gas, food etc don’t turn around before the mid terms, the R’s best beware. It could get ugly. $5.00 per gallon gas and $7.00/lb hamburger ain’t going to cut it.
 
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#25,825
rikberry31 said:
No that was Biden. If Trump was seen as a clown, how is it that he is strong arming every nation in trade deals and pretty much having his way around the globe? Truth is the world fears him and that is a good thing. People like you said the same thing about Reagan.
Besides when you say the whole world are including the 77 million Americans that voted for him or are they too stupid to be considered people?
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