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Persian Vol said:
To infer the standard to be considered “bad guys” is nothing short of total anillihation of a country and then to proceed with that ridiculous analogy is a good illustration of why the average foreigner thinks we’re the bad guys
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It's funny that any foreigner would bash a place that people are willing to risk death/starvation/criminal charges to make the dangerous & illegal journey sneaking across it's border.
I'm willing to bet it's mostly the ones that have enjoyed a life of America's freedoms, blessings, and benefits that complains the most about the "Bad Guy" label. The average foreigner would trade everything they own to have the opportunities and freedoms we have here in America.
 
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LouderVol said:
NATO is getting brought up as a distraction from how unprepared Trump was for this war.

he has tried to claim the issues were because he didn't get the support he wanted from the NATO nations. this was never a NATO fight to expect NATO to show up to help us.
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What a joke. Maybe never in the history of warfare has there been a more efficient and successful operation. Next to no casualties, rapid elimination of a global menace, and reshuffling the World order. The Iranians attacked NATO territory, they are at greater risk than we are. Judas Priest.
I look at my dog sometimes and think, "he's really stupid." Even he wouldn't buy this crap.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Haha

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Thankfully, this is a nothing burger. Would have been very embarrassing, otherwise, to show that level of disrespect to our brass. It was just part of a community relations visit leading up to the US 250th anniversary. He was not discussing the Strait of Hormuz or lecturing Pentagon officials on the matter. Took a joy ride in a military helicopter that Gavin Newsom and others are upset about over the “expense” of it. Guess he forgot about the hundreds of other celebrities that have gotten rides in fighter jets over the years…and all the Cali taxpayer money he flushes down the sh**ter annually.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Russia is still exporting fossil fuels
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oil: 7.7 vs 4.8 bpd
natural gas has dropped by about 45%

even beyond fuel, they have seen their other exports decrease by about 25%.

all that while the percentage, and total going to china has increased.
 
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rikberry31 said:
What a joke. Maybe never in the history of warfare has there been a more efficient and successful operation. Next to no casualties, rapid elimination of a global menace, and reshuffling the World order. The Iranians attacked NATO territory, they are at greater risk than we are. Judas Priest.
I look at my dog sometimes and think, "he's really stupid." Even he wouldn't buy this crap.
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what NATO territory did they attack before we attacked Iran? NATO only comes into play in a defensive war. We started this war, along with Israel, no way to call in NATO now.

how has it been efficient or successful? We went from an air war, to a blockade. clearly we didn't achieve our goals in the air, and still haven't even with the blockade. We don't have access to the straight. the regime is still in place. there has been no mass uprising against them. they still have their nuclear stockpile, as far as I can tell we haven't hit much aligned with the nukes. we didn't destroy all of their infrastructure as promised. we haven't taken out their actual oil production, or even taken that island.

this isn't even getting into multiple examples of more efficient operations. even amongst our own, Desert Storm and the freeing of Kuwait went quicker, and actually achieved our goals.

not sure what world order we have reshuffled? whatever Iran's place was in the world order, they still have.
 
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allstar34 said:
It's funny that any foreigner would bash a place that people are willing to risk death/starvation/criminal charges to make the dangerous & illegal journey sneaking across it's border.
I'm willing to bet it's mostly the ones that have enjoyed a life of America's freedoms, blessings, and benefits that complains the most about the "Bad Guy" label. The average foreigner would trade everything they own to have the opportunities and freedoms we have here in America.
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While a decent amount do, not everyone wants to move here, believe it or not. And that is independent of people hating on America due to our foreign policy.

Also, this sense of superiority is nauseating to a lot of foreigners, especially ones from countries that arguably have a greater quality of life than we do in Europe or Asia.
 
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LouderVol said:
what NATO territory did they attack before we attacked Iran? NATO only comes into play in a defensive war. We started this war, along with Israel, no way to call in NATO now.

how has it been efficient or successful? We went from an air war, to a blockade. clearly we didn't achieve our goals in the air, and still haven't even with the blockade. We don't have access to the straight. the regime is still in place. there has been no mass uprising against them. they still have their nuclear stockpile, as far as I can tell we haven't hit much aligned with the nukes. we didn't destroy all of their infrastructure as promised. we haven't taken out their actual oil production, or even taken that island.

this isn't even getting into multiple examples of more efficient operations. even amongst our own, Desert Storm and the freeing of Kuwait went quicker, and actually achieved our goals.

not sure what world order we have reshuffled? whatever Iran's place was in the world order, they still have.
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What part of “it’s over” do you not understand?
 
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LouderVol said:
what NATO territory did they attack before we attacked Iran? NATO only comes into play in a defensive war. We started this war, along with Israel, no way to call in NATO now.

how has it been efficient or successful? We went from an air war, to a blockade. clearly we didn't achieve our goals in the air, and still haven't even with the blockade. We don't have access to the straight. the regime is still in place. there has been no mass uprising against them. they still have their nuclear stockpile, as far as I can tell we haven't hit much aligned with the nukes. we didn't destroy all of their infrastructure as promised. we haven't taken out their actual oil production, or even taken that island.

this isn't even getting into multiple examples of more efficient operations. even amongst our own, Desert Storm and the freeing of Kuwait went quicker, and actually achieved our goals.

not sure what world order we have reshuffled? whatever Iran's place was in the world order, they still have.
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The world order has absolutely changed. Iran went from being a pariah in many circles to being considered the victim of an illegal invasion. Only Donald Trump could possibly be stupid enough to turn the mullahs into the the good guys. Everything else you said is completely dead on.
 
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allstar34 said:
It's funny that any foreigner would bash a place that people are willing to risk death/starvation/criminal charges to make the dangerous & illegal journey sneaking across it's border.
I'm willing to bet it's mostly the ones that have enjoyed a life of America's freedoms, blessings, and benefits that complains the most about the "Bad Guy" label. The average foreigner would trade everything they own to have the opportunities and freedoms we have here in America.
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How do you have any idea what the average foreigner thinks?
 
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LouderVol said:
what NATO territory did they attack before we attacked Iran? NATO only comes into play in a defensive war. We started this war, along with Israel, no way to call in NATO now.

how has it been efficient or successful? We went from an air war, to a blockade. clearly we didn't achieve our goals in the air, and still haven't even with the blockade. We don't have access to the straight. the regime is still in place. there has been no mass uprising against them. they still have their nuclear stockpile, as far as I can tell we haven't hit much aligned with the nukes. we didn't destroy all of their infrastructure as promised. we haven't taken out their actual oil production, or even taken that island.

this isn't even getting into multiple examples of more efficient operations. even amongst our own, Desert Storm and the freeing of Kuwait went quicker, and actually achieved our goals.

not sure what world order we have reshuffled? whatever Iran's place was in the world order, they still have.
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Cypress. Youngun you got a lot to learn, like the rascist practice of using Capital letters and punctuation. And I wasn't an English major.
 
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Persian Vol said:
While a decent amount do, not everyone wants to move here, believe it or not. And that is independent of people hating on America due to our foreign policy.

Also, this sense of superiority is nauseating to a lot of foreigners, especially ones from countries that arguably have a greater quality of life than we do in Europe or Asia.
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Please educate me on a European or Asian country that has a greater quality of life than America?
 
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LouderVol said:
oil: 7.7 vs 4.8 bpd
natural gas has dropped by about 45%

even beyond fuel, they have seen their other exports decrease by about 25%.

all that while the percentage, and total going to china has increased.
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Who is the they you’re referring to? Russia or Iran
 
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