Not a fan of new teams schedules hardly seems we are in SEC anymore.

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I don't think any of the fans want where we are. I don't know why anybody would. The league just doesn't really care about that.

I really like the divisions era with the championship game. That was my favorite version of the SEC.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
I don't think any of the fans want where we are. I don't know why anybody would. The league just doesn't really care about that.

I really like the divisions era with the championship game. That was my favorite version of the SEC.
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I concur but will go a step further (or backward, if you please) Here's my ideal SEC scene:
 

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I'll just leave this here. $72.4M a year payout from the media rights deal the SEC has now soothes a multitude of "I miss the old SEC" feelings.

That's well over double the old SEC deal per school. The SEC is still behind the B1G in media revenue and you guys need to realize what rows the boat these days and it sure as heck ain't "the traditional SEC geographic footprint."

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Illinoisvolfan2 said:
I might be in the minority but I like it. No more home schedules with 2-3 bunnies. 9-3 will be a very good season probably but good enough for the playoffs. And a player who stays 4 years gets to play in every stadium.
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If expansion was inevitable, I think there were more fitting candidates than Mizzou, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and A&M. Regional integrity is important, and "SEC" means you are east of the Mississippi River, and south of the Mason/Dixon line. I'd much rather see an SEC with any combo of Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, FSU, Virginia/West Virginia, Louisville, Georgia Tech, and Miami over the 5 we got.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'll just leave this here. $72.4M a year payout from the media rights deal the SEC has now soothes a multitude of "I miss the old SEC" feelings.

That's well over double the old SEC deal per school. The SEC is still behind the B1G in media revenue and you guys need to realize what rows the boat these days and it sure as heck ain't "the traditional SEC geographic footprint."

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True. But I'm not getting a dime, so... I still hate the "New SEC".
 
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I wonder how many people back in '91 didn't like the "new SEC" with Arky and USCe...probably about the same as today percentage-wise, we just didn't hear about it since we didn't have social media and the exposure there is today.

Likely the same for the expansion in '12 when aTm and Mizzzou joined up, but I do recall seeing some articles questioning if that Westward expansion was really "SEC".

Now in the '24 expansion adding Texas and OU there is social media, message forums, and outlets were fans can openly express dislike / like over something so we just see more opinion.
Personally, I think the expansion in '24 should have went after 1 team West and 1 team East, or even 2 teams to the East to keep more of a geographical balance.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'll just leave this here. $72.4M a year payout from the media rights deal the SEC has now soothes a multitude of "I miss the old SEC" feelings.

That's well over double the old SEC deal per school. The SEC is still behind the B1G in media revenue and you guys need to realize what rows the boat these days and it sure as heck ain't "the traditional SEC geographic footprint."

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Towards the end of the CBS deal the SEC wasn't fully valued. SEC was going to get a better deal with or without expanding. Granted it was a bigger deal because of OU &TX but just guessing the per share payout wouldn't have been much different without them. Neither were winning Nattys in football TX 2005, OU 2000. The founders have pretty much owned baseball. Neither are basketball elites. I don't see where any expansion team brought anything to the SEC.
 
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feathersax said:
I concur but will go a step further (or backward, if you please) Here's my ideal SEC scene:
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This is ideal because the 80s SEC was awesome and it alleviates the schedule issue: 9 game round robin, every conference member plays each other yearly, get rid of the conference championship game and award championship based on season results.

Plus this would stick it to South Carolina, which I'm always a fan of doing.
 
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Let’s be honest. It’s not SEC. It’s compiled teams from southeast, southwest and one midwest. Would have rather seen GT, VT, NC, FSU, etc. But I will say that I do like that most every single Saturday having multiple really good games is better than maybe having one good sec matchup, and a smattering of bad OOC or sec games.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'll just leave this here. $72.4M a year payout from the media rights deal the SEC has now soothes a multitude of "I miss the old SEC" feelings.

That's well over double the old SEC deal per school. The SEC is still behind the B1G in media revenue and you guys need to realize what rows the boat these days and it sure as heck ain't "the traditional SEC geographic footprint."

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and who pays for this rip off ? You do
 
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Personally….i wish we’d totally bust it up at this point. I want to play West Virginia…Southern Cal…Florida State…Bama….LSU….Miami…Oregon….Notre Dame….Texas….Michigan…

I’m actually tired of playing Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Vandy, Kentucky, yada yada. If it were up to me I’d schedule 8 real teams and 4 crap teams to squeeze in between the difficult ones.
 
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WillisWG said:
Towards the end of the CBS deal the SEC wasn't fully valued. SEC was going to get a better deal with or without expanding. Granted it was a bigger deal because of OU &TX but just guessing the per share payout wouldn't have been much different without them. Neither were winning Nattys in football TX 2005, OU 2000. The founders have pretty much owned baseball. Neither are basketball elites. I don't see where any expansion team brought anything to the SEC.
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Cash
 
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WillisWG said:
Towards the end of the CBS deal the SEC wasn't fully valued. SEC was going to get a better deal with or without expanding. Granted it was a bigger deal because of OU &TX but just guessing the per share payout wouldn't have been much different without them. Neither were winning Nattys in football TX 2005, OU 2000. The founders have pretty much owned baseball. Neither are basketball elites. I don't see where any expansion team brought anything to the SEC.
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I don't like change either but the B1G might have taken OU and TX if the SEC didn't. At this point it's a little like the Cold War and we have to do things to keep the B1G from getting too much economic power.

The next big realignment will be dividing up the ACC just before the B1G and SEC media contracts run out. They'll both want to expand their TV audience and value to the networks.

"It's not personal. It's business." Sacrifices have to be made and traditions have to be broken for the long-term good of the business.
 
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508mikey said:
and who pays for this rip off ? You do
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Rip off? Is the quality of football worse in the SEC with TX and OU in? I think not.

I'll agree Miz brings very little but neither does MS State except Miz brings eyeballs. Eyeballs bring money. Money drives the machine.

The SEC cannot compete with the B1G financially if we let them draw eyeballs from everywhere except the Southeast. It's just the economic reality of keeping up.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Rip off? Is the quality of football worse in the SEC with TX and OU in? I think not.

I'll agree Miz brings very little but neither does MS State except Miz brings eyeballs. Eyeballs bring money. Money drives the machine.

The SEC cannot compete with the B1G financially if we let them draw eyeballs from everywhere except the Southeast. It's just the economic reality of keeping up.
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Im talking TV ads - the higher they charge the more you pay for the product
 
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508mikey said:
Im talking TV ads - the higher they charge the more you pay for the product
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Sure. It's more valuable so it costs more.

When it reaches the point where it's more expensive than the value I feel I get from it, I'll stop buying. That's also just economics working.

We want SEC athletics to be the best and the best things are expensive.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
If expansion was inevitable, I think there were more fitting candidates than Mizzou, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and A&M. Regional integrity is important, and "SEC" means you are east of the Mississippi River, and south of the Mason/Dixon line. I'd much rather see an SEC with any combo of Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, FSU, Virginia/West Virginia, Louisville, Georgia Tech, and Miami over the 5 we got.
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I don’t disagree
 
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