Iran

[Skooter]

Just because a person thinks Trump is awful, and thinks this was a mistake, doesn't mean they're "cheering" for Iran. Its possible to want the US to prevail in every respect, pray for peace, and loathe Trump. All at the same time.

I didn’t say it did. I myself think Trump is pretty bad and never have voted for him. There is another level though who agree with what this guy said. Hate makes people do and say crazy stuff.

 

[ETV]

They don't need any of that. Hence why it's been "blocked" for weeks

With mines that were previously distributed throughout the Strait.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/us/politics/us-navy-warships-strait-of-hormuz-iran-mines.html

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

So ensure Iran cannot import/export while allowing others to sail through? Seems like a decent idea if it VN global strategies works out

Not according to the VN global strategists.

 

[MontyPython]

Those who protested against the Vietnam War... were they "anti-American"?

More importantly, were they actually proven right for their beliefs in the long run?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Those who protested against the Vietnam War... were they "anti-American"?

More importantly, were they actually proven right for their beliefs in the long run?

Some weren’t. But a lot were

 

[volfanhill]

With mines that were previously distributed throughout the Strait.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/us/politics/us-navy-warships-strait-of-hormuz-iran-mines.html

It's more than that. They have been attacking ships that have entered the Strait without their approval for weeks. There is a reason the Navy hasn't tried to take it back and isn't now

 

[MontyPython]

With mines that were previously distributed throughout the Strait.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/us/politics/us-navy-warships-strait-of-hormuz-iran-mines.html

Mines are not the primary cause of the current Strait closure.

Iran has multiple assymetrical sources. In all likelihood, we can't simply bomb our way out of them.

 

[volfanhill]

So ensure Iran cannot import/export while allowing others to sail through? Seems like a decent idea if it works out

If we can freely allow that to happen why haven't we been?

What do these "crazy bastards" need to open up?

 

[MontyPython]

Some weren’t. But a lot were

Were they right about the fact that we shouldn't have been in Vietnam and that our kids shouldn't have fought and died there for an unjust war?

 

[NashVol11]

With mines that were previously distributed throughout the Strait.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/us/politics/us-navy-warships-strait-of-hormuz-iran-mines.html

"U.S. officials say"

 

[Skooter]

I don’t think Vietnam is a good comparison to a terrorist regime that’s killed 1m+ of their own people and responsible long list of terrorist attacks

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So ensure Iran cannot import/export while allowing others to sail through? Seems like a decent idea if it works out

What's your time frame that meets the qualification for "working out?"

 

[MontyPython]

I don’t think Vietnam is a good comparison to a terrorist regime that’s killed 1m+ of their own people and responsible long list of terrorist attacks

It isn't about Vietnam or Iran, per se, the issue is about us.

We have an amazing penchant for selectively electing dumb wars to have our kids and grandkids go die in. And for what?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I don’t think Vietnam is a good comparison to a terrorist regime that’s killed 1m+ of their own people and responsible long list of terrorist attacks

The one valid comparison between the two is the utter lack of necessity for US involvement.

 

[Smokey123]

Who does this sound like? ……anyone?

He literally says the regime being removed would be great for the region and then also at the end said he wants Iran to be defeated….

 

[MontyPython]

"U.S. officials say"

Our warships kicked ass yesterday sailing unfettered through the strait and flipping off them dumb towel heads DURING THE CEASEFIRE.

 

[Smokey123]

It's more than that. They have been attacking ships that have entered the Strait without their approval for weeks. There is a reason the Navy hasn't tried to take it back and isn't now

Dude must have his head buried a foot in the sand. Where has he been?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Were they right about the fact that we shouldn't have been in Vietnam and that our kids shouldn't have fought and died there for an unjust war?

Nuance matters.

See if you spot the difference here (relevant today too)

“I don’t think our troops should be overseas fighting this unjust war. Bring them home safely now Mr President”

“America is an empire and our baby killing fascist troops are pieces of sh*t lying about our enemies who are just peaceful poor people. I hope they get captured or killed since they are just fighting for oil”

The point was yes indeed some are anti American protests much like what you see from Antifa types.

 

[Skooter]

The one valid comparison between the two is the utter lack of necessity for US involvement.

I can see that. I wish I knew what exactly what they were doing with their nuclear program and uranium. From what I’ve read there’s one reason to have 60% enriched uranium. An Iranian terrorist regime having a nuke can’t happen.
Presidents and other officials for many years have said if they caught Iran trying to go nuclear that they would make them pay.
Are we lying about what Iran was doing?
Is Iran lying about their nuclear capabilities?
I don’t know.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Just because a person thinks Trump is awful, and thinks this was a mistake, doesn't mean they're "cheering" for Iran. Its possible to want the US to prevail in every respect, pray for peace, and loathe Trump. All at the same time.

truth. there are real american lives at stake. we're here, unfortunately. american men and women in uniform chose to serve. prayers for their safety and to quick end to ask this nonsense.

 

[ETV]

Dude must have his head buried a foot in the sand. Where has he been?

Unfortunately, here in this thread watching you and several others participate in a circle jerk routine for the past few weeks.

 

[Vol8188]

Devil's in the details...

We gonna blow up Iranian oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz that don't stop for our "blockade" and create an ecological disaster? And how much higher would oil go a barrel... $200-$250?

I’m open to that

And how would Iran react to such violence? Probable lob a bunch of missiles at our allies' soft targets like desalinization plants and oil refineries.

They’ve been doing that

How will our allies react to that?

The same as they have

Is that the new "winning"?

Cutting off the Iranian economy, yes that’s winning

Dumb Donald doubling down demented dicktardness.

25A 47 now.

 

[Vol8188]

If we can freely allow that to happen why haven't we been?

What do these "crazy bastards" need to open up?

Idk, honestly. But if it’s doable, it could speed up the end of this war

 

[Vol8188]

What's your time frame that meets the qualification for "working out?"

If it’s effective it wouldn’t take long. Months maybe? Without oil money Iran is done

 

[NashVol11]

“America is an empire

I've seen us called imperialists, which...well, yeah

and our baby killing fascist troops are pieces of sh*t lying about our enemies who are just peaceful poor people.

I haven't seen anyone say anything remotely resembling this, and criticism is way more likely to be directed at our leaders than "troops"

I hope they get captured or killed since they are just fighting for oil”

There are probably people who want us to fail but you are taking 1% of people who oppose the war and acting like it's 70%