He is not a great player. If you think so that is fine but he isn’t. Staff offered him 2 and someone else over paid. If you want a great post players you look at guys line the kid from Georgia Tech or Thiem from Cincy. They are in on both.Why keep harping on the “18 minutes” for a player returning from injury. What were his minutes averaged late in the season? Folks are paying for what they project him to be next year, not what he was at the start of this past season anyway.
who cares?Not looking for e-cred…just trying to make sure @bleedingTNorange doesn’t take credit for others info. He even admitted it. His last post about Dowd’s gf going to Auburn was lifted straight off of VQ.
I don’t know how this ends, but we’re 4 days since the portal opened and 9 hours since the dead period ended, we are 1 of very few schools already with a commitment, JUST MAYBE we pull the breaks on a freak out and declaring that we know how this movie ends?I got on this morning expecting some good news and the sky is falling
Doesnt seem like the donors are ponying up for Barnes. He's such a good coach he will put out a good team regardless, but I've seen this song and dance enough to know we always fall a little short on the money side no matter what the new narrative is.
I don’t know how this ends, but we’re 4 days since the portal opened and 9 hours since the dead period ended, we are 1 of very few schools already with a commitment, JUST MAYBE we pull the breaks on a freak out and declaring that we know how this movie ends?
To add on to this - it just takes 1 mega billionaire donor to just love this **** like the Raisin Canes guy does for LSU.Well, we simply don’t have the alumni base of a Michigan or Indiana. And unlike UNC, we care about football. So don’t think it’s we aren’t willing, the resources just aren’t on the same level.
Can’t expect Jim Haslam and Pratt to fund all of NIL for all sports. Some of our richest alumni don’t care about athletics enough (or at all) to get involved in NIL. Once big Jim is gone, there will be a big void if Jimmy is still busy running a dumpster fire in Cleveland.
So unlike everyone else, the UT basketball program does not realize and plan effectively for inflation year after year. Always a step behind. Got news for them, Rick ain’t getting any younger and building culture and developing players isn’t the goal at the end of coach’s career in the NIL era. They are effectively out of time. Either shoot your shot and give the man his budget for 1 maybe 2 more go arounds and act like you know how to form a competitive budget. Personally, I’d say “I’m good” and walk away at this point, fighting with one arm behind my back at his age. The stress and frustration of taking teams so close with less budget would incense me to no end.As much as I love the coach and the team, this is directionally correct. The movement to get to the level of X team in budget and process is typically impaired by the reality that our budget is catching up to last year’s market in this year’s reality. UNC and Michigan have already stretched well beyond the offers against projected spend in week one, and inserted themselves into conversations we’ve been cultivating for months. Barnes’ need to carefully vet players for character, commitment and fit evolves to move faster every year, but perhaps not as fast as staffs with more nimble models. I have to admit that seeing a man in his seventies blend his knowledge and system with a changing game and shifting talent acquisition ecosystem is impressive. That said, we are hitting some friction in pushing through to the next level. The timing of losing Gainey on top of the portal opening, player leaving etc. makes it harder. I’m not a doubter. Barnes has a way of finding kids hiding behind a shed in Uruguay or Belmont and assembling a roster when all have lost hope. Unfortunately there was a moment last year when we missed with Rice and Burg and Massamba emerged that the sinking feeling set in. We went from a team with the horses to go far to a team with two scorers, a pool of developing talent, and a few guys that can hold space on the floor. It was impressive, but not enough to break through. Hoping for some breakthroughs in the next two weeks. We’ve been in on the right guys with the right support, but the market is already ratcheting up in front of our eyes. I think we’ll have to be fast and smart to get the right guys.
I didn’t say UNC would have no shot, I was pointing out that they already have what’s expected to be one of the best PGs in the country next year signed, and a guy wanting to stick, along with his brother who’s also a very good PG wanting to join him there. Maybe they cut both lose, maybe they go with a 3 PG system and Tanner loves that idea, I was just saying I’m not sure how much I see that fit there. As you mention Tanner still has yet to enter the portal, and you hinted yesterday it’s getting less and less likely that he actually does as things have “stalled”. No doubt Malone is going to be given every chance to succeed there, again I just question the fit for Tanner there with how they currently are constructed with Mingo.Factually you’re right and no Tanner isn’t in (yet). Ryan is right that Malone knows every agent and he’s been giving ( close to) unlimited resources to get the players he needs. The people on the board who said “don’t worry about UNC” are wrong. Having an NBA coach come into that program with their resources is going to shift the power dynamics in the ACC and the larger market. Players with sophisticated agents will get a look at the best opportunities.
All this doom and gloom in portal season when both football and basketball consistently get some of the best production out of the portal (maybe not hype, but production.)
It’s gonna be fine.
It’s not unlike everyone else. It’s unlike Michigan, UNC, and maybe an Indiana and Kentucky. We are going to be top 10 in spending. We just don’t have the resources that a few others have. This isn’t complicated.So unlike everyone else, the UT basketball program does not realize and plan effectively for inflation year after year. Always a step behind. Got news for them, Rick ain’t getting any younger and building culture and developing players isn’t the goal at the end of coach’s career in the NIL era. They are effectively out of time. Either shoot your shot and give the man his budget for 1 maybe 2 more go arounds and act like you know how to form a competitive budget. Personally, I’d say “I’m good” and walk away at this point, fighting with one arm behind my back at his age. The stress and frustration of taking teams so close with less budget would incense me to no end.
You must have closed your eyes every time Carey got the ball in the paint then?View attachment 825372Estrella was by far the most frustrating player we had last year. I have never seen one of our bigs miss so many 1 ft baskets. Sorry, I was hoping most of the year that he would portal out and we would find a replacement.
I agree. I was responding more to the statement someone made yesterday to “not worry about UNC because they’re a dead program”. As for their involvement with Tanner, I have no insight, nor do I know how he sees roster. Malone can have a conversation with anyone he wants given his relationships in that world.I didn’t say UNC would have no shot, I was pointing out that they already have what’s expected to be one of the best PGs in the country next year signed, and a guy wanting to stick, along with his brother who’s also a very good PG wanting to join him there. Maybe they cut both lose, maybe they go with a 3 PG system and Tanner loves that idea, I was just saying I’m not sure how much I see that fit there. As you mention Tanner still has yet to enter the portal, and you hinted yesterday it’s getting less and less likely that he actually does as things have “stalled”. No doubt Malone is going to be given every chance to succeed there, again I just question the fit for Tanner there with how they currently are constructed with Mingo.
Look, I have no complaints about the top guys we’ve gotten every year. I think that’s great and have loved them all. But I think like everyone else, I’d like to see us (in football and basketball) put all the pieces together at once. I’m not blaming anyone (I dare you to find a negative word I’ve said about Barnes), but as someone else said it now takes more than just the “Newcomer of the Year” to cross that threshold. Especially when you are doing a full reset like we’ve done last year and now this year.back to back to back newcomer of the year, you are right they all are the same DA.
Not freaking out at all. Said we will end up with a good team. I feel like I'm an odd post to respond to.I don’t know how this ends, but we’re 4 days since the portal opened and 9 hours since the dead period ended, we are 1 of very few schools already with a commitment, JUST MAYBE we pull the breaks on a freak out and declaring that we know how this movie ends?
