Did Fulmer overvalue himself?

Did Fulmer overvalue himself?

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#101
#101
roadvol said:
What half did I make up? There were several posters claiming any average coach could win big at UT with our history and facilities. Of course they all disappeared when we went into a decade long spiral.
Im guessing from your response. you were probably one of them.
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I don't remember anyone saying that, but if there were some that said it, I wasn't one of them. I can promise you that.
 
#102
#102
roadvol said:
Sure they could .... why not count all the titles UT has won since Fulmer left....there's a reason that Fulmer won more games in UT history except Gen Neyland.
( btw.. if you are correct ,why doesn't UT just hire a rhesus monkey?)
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We already tried a couple of those. It didn't work out.
 
#104
#104
He started off badly by replacing a Vol legend…many think he undermined him to get the job. Regardless, without Cutcliffe, the magic wasn’t there
 
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#106
#106
Seems like most Vol fans wanted him to replace Majors after that impressive start in ‘92. Can’t forget that.
 
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#107
#107
As a coach Fulmer got lazy recruiting and by the quality of recruits he was bringing in toward the end it showed. That's all on him, GREAT recruiting is what got him there and bad recruiting is what cost him in the end as a coach. Loyalty to old ways and coaches cost him the AD job, he was a coach and not an administrator after all, big difference.
 
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#108
#108
Same old internet chatter that has grown to be believed by many Vol fans with little truth to most of it.

Statements on why he failed off base. Admin support died when Johnson and Dickey left. From that point on things headed downhill and doom was on the horizon. That was the failure point.

And BTW, also the cause for everything else that has happened until Randy hired Donde.
 
#112
#112
The guy was cut from the conservative mold, trained by Johnny Majors. He showed us a wide open offense for 4 games as temporary head coach, we never saw that offense again. The guy out recruited the entire SEC for several years until coaches at other schools were hired to reverse that. With the talent he accumulated he should have won 3 NC's not 1. Even that year his conservatism almost cost us on several occasions, Syracuse, UGA, Auburn and famously Arkansas, then FSU lost their QB for the championship game. New coaches and their offenses forced him to change and he waited too late to get started. This is why no other school tried to hire him, 3 yardss and a cloud of dust.
 
#113
#113
#1fulmerite said:
There has been much discussion about Fulmer on these boards as late as this week and, amongst Vol fans in general. As it seems, most on here state they believed it was time for him to go before his first firing. To me, he never seemed to accept it. It was as if he thought he was Tennessee football and above everyone and was owed more than just the millions he was paid. Then, when he came back as AD, there was a glow surrounding him as though he was proving he was Tennessee football and him being named AD was proof he was wronged. Before his first firing, it also seemed he was oblivious to the negative environment that the fan based had against him; he was in disbelief about his first firing. Was he thinking about Majors and the legions of the miserables and thus did not see the total sentiment? I think his negotiated package the second time included box seats among other perks. He never seemed to settle away from the Tennessee spotlight. I just can’t recall another coach who never accepted their firing like he did.
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Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno both had program declines where the fans were calling for their ouster. Both were allowed time to bring their programs back and they did. Fulmer was not given that opportunity. Furthermore, the result of his firing was devastating to the program and we have not fully recovered from that fiasco orchestrated by Mike Hamilton. Is there one person anywhere who thinks the program would not have fared much better over the last 18 years had Fulmer been retained 1 or 2 more years? Granted, he may not have turned things around, but would that have been worse than what actually occurred (Kiffen, Dooley, Butch, Pruett)? No way. Worst case, Fulmer fails, Clawson becomes HC and we go from there. That would have been better than what happened.
 
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