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SoilVol said:
Saw Tim Burchett this morning chilling on the sidewalk by himself. Hit him with a "Go Vols!" and got one back.

He's good people. A rarity amongst his peers imo.
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I argued with him in a state politics class as an undergrad about his voting to ban smoking in private establishments after he’d just given a long presentation about government telling people what to do too much. Nice enough guy, though.
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
I argued with him in a state politics class as an undergrad about his voting to ban smoking in private establishments after he’d just given a long presentation about government telling people what to do too much. Nice enough guy, though.
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I think telling people not to harm or kill others isn't quite over the line for government telling people what to do too much.
 
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jave36 said:
I think telling people not to harm or kill others isn't quite over the line for government telling people what to do too much.
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You don't have to patronize any business you don't want to. Not really for me to tell others what they're allowed to do inside of their own property, but YMMV.

Also, the law required a nice restaurant with a separate, and separately-ventilated, cigar room to cease operations. Wasn't bothering anybody. That's what happens when you take a sledgehammer to things, though.
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
You don't have to patronize any business you don't want to. Not really for me to tell others what they're allowed to do inside of their own property, but YMMV.

Also, the law required a nice restaurant with a separate, and separately-ventilated, cigar room to cease operations. Wasn't bothering anybody. That's what happens when you take a sledgehammer to things, though.
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Agree that's too much of a sledge hammer.
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
You don't have to patronize any business you don't want to. Not really for me to tell others what they're allowed to do inside of their own property, but YMMV.

Also, the law required a nice restaurant with a separate, and separately-ventilated, cigar room to cease operations. Wasn't bothering anybody. That's what happens when you take a sledgehammer to things, though.
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I think the biggest thing is consistency in logic. I disagree with Rand Paul on a lot of his political stances, but he's logically consistent and sticks to his principles doggedly. I respect that.

I disagree with Burchett on some things and he's had some wild takes, but generally thing he's a good guy. But like in the case you're describing, its not logically consistent to argue for the government to stay out of it then vote for the government to be knee deep in it.

Anyway, don't want to devolve any discussions. Just thought it was a cool interaction.
 
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SoilVol said:
I think the biggest thing is consistency in logic. I disagree with Rand Paul on a lot of his political stances, but he's logically consistent and sticks to his principles doggedly. I respect that.

I disagree with Burchett on some things and he's had some wild takes, but generally thing he's a good guy. But like in the case you're describing, its not logically consistent to argue for the government to stay out of it then vote for the government to be knee deep in it.

Anyway, don't want to devolve any discussions. Just thought it was a cool interaction.
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For sure. And I meant what I said about him being a nice guy. We had a great interaction after the class was over and I think he's a genuine guy. At the end of the day there's not really anybody I agree with 100% of the time.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
What does that have to do with anything?

Ny the way, I drove from Knoxville to Arkansas, through Mississippi. You're doing a 💩 job.
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Cause that’s an ignorant statement. You pay taxes for roads to the tune of about $1.5 billion in TN per year alone.

It’s also disingenuous to the public servants we have out there who have a heart’s desire to serve. Judging by this response, I’m not surprised.
 
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Brillovol said:
Cause that’s an ignorant statement. You pay taxes for roads to the tune of about $1.5 billion in TN per year alone.

It’s also disingenuous to the public servants we have out there who have a heart’s desire to serve. Judging by this response, I’m not surprised.
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Settle down. I'm just giving you a hard time. By definition, taxation is theft. I dont look at road taxes as tax, more of a toll for driving on the roads. The more you drive, the more you pay. You don't drive, you don't pay.
 
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Brillovol said:
Cause that’s an ignorant statement. You pay taxes for roads to the tune of about $1.5 billion in TN per year alone.

It’s also disingenuous to the public servants we have out there who have a heart’s desire to serve. Judging by this response, I’m not surprised.
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Those two statements sort of contradict each other.

If your average public 'servant' was really in it for the love of the game, public works would be lauded for their financial efficiency, not criticized for their laughable inefficiency.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Settle down. I'm just giving you a hard time. By definition, taxation is theft. I dont look at road taxes as tax, more of a toll for driving on the roads. The more you drive, the more you pay. You don't drive, you don't pay.
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Taxation isn't always theft. In many cases, we vote to tax ourselves for a public benefit. There's dozens of examples of this. I don't feel all of my taxes are theft. Some of them I gladly give, like Pittman-Robertson excise taxes. Taxes that pay firefighters and police. Roads. Public education. Etc.
 
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SoilVol said:
Taxation isn't always theft. In many cases, we vote to tax ourselves for a public benefit. There's dozens of examples of this. I don't feel all of my taxes are theft. Some of them I gladly give, like Pittman-Robertson excise taxes. Taxes that pay firefighters and police. Roads. Public education. Etc.
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Taking something from someone by force is theft, whether it's voted on or not. Everyone has a tax they think is justifiable. Taxation by definition is theft. Just because some people voted to take your property doesn't make it not theft.

The truth is, we can't have a society without some level of Taxation. The question is, is government too large? Does government do too much? In my opinion it is. There are billions of dollars spent on things government has no business being a part of. That's just my opinion.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Settle down. I'm just giving you a hard time. By definition, taxation is theft. I dont look at road taxes as tax, more of a toll for driving on the roads. The more you drive, the more you pay. You don't drive, you don't pay.
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I've got a message for you. Watch to the end.

 
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