The Kellie Harper Doomsday Clock is now the Kim Caldwell Doomsday Clock

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chuckiepoo said:
Ya need to check the poll if you think no one wants her fired immediately.

I am willing to give her next year and another, as long as progress is made. That will hinge largely on getting some accurate artillery in here to compliment the current freshman class.

DW needs to stay abreast of the market. He has plenty of contacts and i trust he has Plan B lined up in the short and long term.
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Chuck, In the military we called it combined arms operations. You need air (guards), artillery (wings) and ground (posts) to be effective. I won’t argue that UT needs more long range artillery, but the ground forces need beefing up also and the Air Force needs major upgrade as well. It’s the full package.
 
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So many people realized the obvious at the time and it’s playing out 2 years later.

Do people actually think that if we had given Kellie the same NIL that we’re 16-10, 6th place, 10 seed and questionable to make the tournamet now… that Kellie would not have us in a better situation? Our worst case was 3rd-4th. This upgrade would have made us a solid 2nd place.

Danny White is paying over a million for Olivia Edwards. Either win or fire Danny White (I suggest the latter).
 
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DeerPark12 said:
So, let me get this straight. Last week, people were ready to go ahead and fire Caldwell if she didn’t hold onto the twins because a mass exodus was a fireable offense.

This week, a poster reports that they are staying, but now we want to fire her because she must have made some deal for playing time for next year for a player that isn’t as good as her All-SEC sister, but demonstratively got better as the season went on. Do I have that right?

Coaches, players, and sometimes their parents, sit down and talk about what a role is going to be going forward at the end of every year. In football it’s more often done with the position coach, but in basketball it’s most often done with the head coach. Every Coach that has been here, including Pat Summitt, had these conversations with players at the end of the season. The only difference now is how much easier it is for a player to transfer.

I will certainly agree that the dad seems to be a lot on social media. But I don’t think it’s fair to anyone to claim that there was some back room deal done to keep them both here for whatever reason. I think it’s also reasonable to assume that a player that progressed and saw her role grown during her freshman season would likely have a larger role next year, provided she continued to improve over the course of the offseason.

Assuming they do not advance out of this weekend, Caldwell will know how critical next season is for her future, and I seriously doubt she or any other coach would make deals to keep and play players that could not help her win in that critical season.
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“but demonstratively got better as the season went on” I’m sorry but I literally shrieked reading that part 😭😭😂😂
 
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JohnnyPayne said:

So many people realized the obvious at the time and it’s playing out 2 years later.

Do people actually think that if we had given Kellie the same NIL that we’re 16-10, 6th place, 10 seed and questionable to make the tournamet now… that Kellie would not have us in a better situation? Our worst case was 3rd-4th. This upgrade would have made us a solid 2nd place.

Danny White is paying over a million for Olivia Edwards. Either win or fire Danny White (I suggest the latter).
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That ship has sailed, yo. That article, once consumed, made me feel briefly nostalgic, hate on Danny momentarily, then realized the decision was driven by the folks with the money. A large portion of the fanbase had washed their hands of her. But it didn’t matter. The sliver that controlled the purse strings would be sated by nothing short of hiring a new coach.

…and here we are. They ($$$) learned nothing by running off Fulmer or allowing him back in the building. We had apparent alignment for a moment on the back of a CWS NC and berth in the CFP.

…but things change. Growth requires nurture and patience. Pruning is an art best left in the hands of a skilled cultivar.

…but this is a message board.
 
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JohnnyPayne said:

So many people realized the obvious at the time and it’s playing out 2 years later.

Do people actually think that if we had given Kellie the same NIL that we’re 16-10, 6th place, 10 seed and questionable to make the tournamet now… that Kellie would not have us in a better situation? Our worst case was 3rd-4th. This upgrade would have made us a solid 2nd place.

Danny White is paying over a million for Olivia Edwards. Either win or fire Danny White (I suggest the latter).
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This is how I visualize this all happen.
Danny had a had a pulse on what he could get with an upgrade in players money through agents behind the scenes people.
He felt he could get these girls in here with the the checks roll the ball out and put the hot D-2 champ out there and he looks like a genius. No relationships or evaluation was ever established with coaches and players.
And now here we are.
 
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JohnnyPayne said:

So many people realized the obvious at the time and it’s playing out 2 years later.

Do people actually think that if we had given Kellie the same NIL that we’re 16-10, 6th place, 10 seed and questionable to make the tournamet now… that Kellie would not have us in a better situation? Our worst case was 3rd-4th. This upgrade would have made us a solid 2nd place.

Danny White is paying over a million for Olivia Edwards. Either win or fire Danny White (I suggest the latter).
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We're not firing Danny White 😂 😂
 
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JohnnyPayne said:
Those laughing emojis could have been multiplied x10 two years ago when I said this. They’re not so many now…

However I agree somewhat since it would make everything look bad. But if Heupel does bad (and Caldwell to a lesser degree) then his seat is HOT or at least should be.
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All just your opinion. The Big boosters determine when/if DW gets fired. $$$ in groves , DW probably isnt going anywhere anytime soon, unless he gets Sankey's job.
 
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JohnnyPayne said:
Those laughing emojis could have been multiplied x10 two years ago when I said this. They’re not so many now…

However I agree somewhat since it would make everything look bad. But if Heupel does bad (and Caldwell to a lesser degree) then his seat is HOT or at least should be.
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Remind be me again where we placed in the conference all sports trophy standings!

But I like your logic, if CJH turns it up this year he would be due a multiyear extention and we can avoid these threads by our emotionally challenged members. I bet he has always been on Donde’s Christmas card list.
 
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glv98 said:
Maybe she was incrementally better? But still not at SEC player level.
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Some players will never be SEC level players. She was ranked well below Mia for that reason not because she had been injured. We needed 3 guards and got 2 in a bundle one from the portal. Maybe they just couldn't or didn't have the money for another good shooter.
 
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glv98 said:
Maybe she was incrementally better? But still not at SEC player level.
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It is interesting Mia and Mya are similar sized "twins" but they move completely differently. Mia is so coordinated, explosive, and laterally quick that her small stature is not that much of a liability (I see her as Shannon Bobbitt 2.0). However, Mya is closer to Edie Darby in athleticism (to be clear she is better than Edie but the athleticism gap between she and her sister is massive). On a side note, you could also say that Edie Darby got better as her first season went on. That criterion is a low bar.

DP seems very vested in justifying and rationalizing everything this staff does but if they guaranteed playing time to Mya (which I still question if that actually happened) before the transfer portal dust settles and not trying to get an upgrade at that guard spot would be to quote DP from another context, "coaching malpractice.'
 
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JohnnyPayne said:

So many people realized the obvious at the time and it’s playing out 2 years later.

Do people actually think that if we had given Kellie the same NIL that we’re 16-10, 6th place, 10 seed and questionable to make the tournamet now… that Kellie would not have us in a better situation? Our worst case was 3rd-4th. This upgrade would have made us a solid 2nd place.

Danny White is paying over a million for Olivia Edwards. Either win or fire Danny White (I suggest the latter).
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Danny White is NOT paying over a million to O. Somebody might be but it ain’t Tennessee or Danny white. Maybe Adidas. I don’t know but UT has a limit of about 1 million total that they can pay for everybody on their roster,
 
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