The Kellie Harper Doomsday Clock is now the Kim Caldwell Doomsday Clock

[Rooster1]

Just to be clear, the "starting" revenue sharing number is the same for every school, around $20 million this year, as set by the House settlement. Schools that make more money in direct revenue are not allowed to share more of it with student-athletes.

Yep, I forgot about the cap, duh

 

[LVBB_Legacy]

Yep, I forgot about the cap, duh

Isn't TV revenue shared equally among conference members as well?

 

[1reVOLver]

Isn't TV revenue shared equally among conference members as well?

Whether it is or not—I don't know in the cases of teams changing conferences—that has nothing to do with the revenue sharing cap established in the House v. NCAA settlement.

 

[Volstylexx]

Carla just said “Why don’t pitchers need a slump buster??“ She likes the bling bling.

 

[Rooster1]

Isn't TV revenue shared equally among conference members as well?

LVBB, TV revenue is different per sport. FB and MBB have their own separate TV contracts. WBB shares a TV contract with all of the non revenue sports like track, gymnastics, volleyball etc etc. It is the goal of WBB to negotiate their own seperate contract at the next negotiation, which is 2032 if I recall correctly. If they are successful doing that it would change the financial world for their sport tremendously because WBB these days draws very good TV viewing numbers.

 

[1reVOLver]

LVBB, TV revenue is different per sport. FB and MBB have their own separate TV contracts. WBB shares a TV contract with all of the non revenue sports like track, gymnastics, volleyball etc etc. It is the goal of WBB to negotiate their own seperate contract at the next negotiation, which is 2032 if I recall correctly. If they are successful doing that it would change the financial world for their sport tremendously because WBB these days draws very good TV viewing numbers.

How this matters is not revenue sharing—direct payments from schools to players—but (1) How ADs perceive WBB, and what they may be willing to spend on coaches’ salaries and other expenses, and (2) NIL. Potential NIL sponsors will see that WBB is real, has a growing fanbase, etc. Their willingness to invest will increase.

 

[Rooster1]

How this matters is not revenue sharing—direct payments from schools to players—but (1) How ADs perceive WBB, and what they may be willing to spend on coaches’ salaries and other expenses, and (2) NIL. Potential NIL sponsors will see that WBB is real, has a growing fanbase, etc. Their willingness to invest will increase.

Yes. It could get the current 5% rev share number to increase enough where the sport is financially more viable. It’s bound to happen with the growth of the sport 1reVOLver.

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[Volfan2012]

How this matters is not revenue sharing—direct payments from schools to players—but (1) How ADs perceive WBB, and what they may be willing to spend on coaches’ salaries and other expenses, and (2) NIL. Potential NIL sponsors will see that WBB is real, has a growing fanbase, etc. Their willingness to invest will increase.

I think we would be in really good shape in both those points as our AD should not want his hire to fail. KIm and her Assistants are going to need to show they know how to spend NIL money and maintain players as they did a really poos job in the portal last time around.

 

[1reVOLver]

KIm and her Assistants are going to need to show they know how to spend NIL money…

I need some help here. Would someone please explain the interactions between the four parties to an NIL contract?

Let me take a stab at the chronology as far as I think I understand it.

(A) = Coach, (B) = recruiting target, (C) = AD or Department employee assigned to coordinate berween NIL donors and coaching staff, (D) Donor, an individual or corporate or non-profit entity

Chronology
1. A and B establish that B wants to join the team, and A wants her, subject to “adequate” NIL contract
2. A contacts C to advise C to seek D, and coordinate contacts between B and D?

I'm really not clear on how this all is supposed to play out. I assume that A, the coach, does not want to be involved in contract negotiations.

Does a donor simply inform the AD that they will finance a NIL contract in the amount if X$$, and leave it to the coaching staff's discretion as to who gets the offered contract?

It is all rather opaque, perhaps by intention.

Edited to add- A further complication is the rôle of NIL collectives. These were initially banned, but were subsequently unbanned, with conditions.

College Sports Commission loosens prohibition on NIL payments

The College Sports Commission has loosened its blanket prohibition on athletes receiving payments from NIL collectives, according to a memo the new enforcement agency sent to athletic directors.

www.espn.com

 

[Volfan2012]

I need some help here. Would someone please explain the interactions between the four parties to an NIL contract?

Let me take a stab at the chronology as far as I think I understand it.

(A) = Coach, (B) = recruiting target, (C) = AD or Department employee assigned to coordinate berween NIL donors and coaching staff, (D) Donor, an individual or corporate or non-profit entity

Chronology
1. A and B establish that B wants to join the team, and A wants her, subject to “adequate” NIL contract
2. A contacts C to advise C to seek D, and coordinate contacts between B and D?

I'm really not clear on how this all is supposed to play out. I assume that A, the coach, does not want to be involved in contract negotiations.

Does a donor simply inform the AD that they will finance a NIL contract in the amount if X$$, and leave it to the coaching staff's discretion as to who gets the offered contract?

It is all rather opaque, perhaps by intention.

Edited to add- A further complication is the rôle of NIL collectives. These were initially banned, but were subsequently unbanned, with conditions.

College Sports Commission loosens prohibition on NIL payments

The College Sports Commission has loosened its blanket prohibition on athletes receiving payments from NIL collectives, according to a memo the new enforcement agency sent to athletic directors.

www.espn.com

Good question cause I really don't know either. I think the donors just donate and then the AD distributes the money based on what the coaches say they need to the best of his ability. Then I think the Assistants line up the visitors they want and try to seal the deals. Sure they already understand from player agents what they are asking for to play for any particular school.
This may be totally wrong, but someone is dealing with players through agents figure it is the coaching staff or someone in charge of NIL dealing. Everything I said here is a total guess I am sure someone actually knows and it would be great to know how it actually works.

 

[Danl]

Good question cause I really don't know either. I think the donors just donate and then the AD distributes the money based on what the coaches say they need to the best of his ability. Then I think the Assistants line up the visitors they want and try to seal the deals. Sure they already understand from player agents what they are asking for to play for any particular school.
This may be totally wrong, but someone is dealing with players through agents figure it is the coaching staff or someone in charge of NIL dealing. Everything I said here is a total guess I am sure someone actually knows and it would be great to know how it actually works.

I'm pretty sure that the AD can't distribute any donor funds directly to recruits. NIL deals are between the recruit and some third party, not the school or the AD. Does the school (coaches) communicate to these third parties how much they are willing to pay an individual recruit? I would bet the farm on that.

 

[mudcat1973]

I've heard the same...also hearing about booster discontent, too...but she's still a 'Great Coach!'

Facebook seen also in comments to posts
boosters not happy with what their support.
and one poster
said that one of the twins
like comments about bad coaching
The bad coaching was Tennessee lady Vols staff.

All that was in the comments on lady Facebook group page.
it's been a few days ago

 

[volsagain]

I'm pretty sure that the AD can't distribute any donor funds directly to recruits. NIL deals are between the recruit and some third party, not the school or the AD. Does the school (coaches) communicate to these third parties how much they are willing to pay an individual recruit? I would bet the farm on that.

Donors funds or money besides profit sharing has to be for a service from whomever receive the money. NCAA has to be informed on said payment of NIL to determine the legitimacy.

 

[Volfan2012]

I'm pretty sure that the AD can't distribute any donor funds directly to recruits. NIL deals are between the recruit and some third party, not the school or the AD. Does the school (coaches) communicate to these third parties how much they are willing to pay an individual recruit? I would bet the farm on that.

What I actually meant was the settlement money I think the AD office determines the percentages that each sport receives and can change it anyway they like at any time. The percentage that women's basketball was getting from the settlement was said to be 5 percent of the 20.5 million. That is a good percentage as Alabama is only giving women's basketball 1 percent. All the third part stuff or donor funds is certainly the make of break most of the time of where a player ends up. A few schools have really entrenched a strong background with this third party help not sure how Tennessee is doing in that regard. I think most of Edwards big payday is coming from Adidas.

 

[Volfan2012]

Donors funds or money besides profit sharing has to be for a service from whomever receive the money. NCAA has to be informed on said payment of NIL to determine the legitimacy.

Supposed to be still I wonder how NCAA is going to handle policing that cause how they going to determine how much any particular job is worth. They are going to need to determine limits and then more than likely end up in court more than they would like. Cause how can you limit what any person wants to pay another for a job or task regardless of what it is.

 

[VolBall09]

TBH I’m holding out hope we are not in the tournament. Breaks my heart to say that but honestly I think it would be better.

No way do I see this team making some miraculous turnaround and winning two games as an 8 seed.

I also think it would be best if we were not in the tournament so we do not get anymore bad press on broadcasts. It’s been brutal to watch and sportscasters won’t shut up about it.

There would be a day or so of press about us missing the tourney and then we could start working on sorting things out for next season.

Better than potentially getting beat in the first round by 25 imo.

 

[volsagain]

Supposed to be still I wonder how NCAA is going to handle policing that cause how they going to determine how much any particular job is worth. They are going to need to determine limits and then more than likely end up in court more than they would like. Cause how can you limit what any person wants to pay another for a job or task regardless of what it is.

I'm sure there will be some court cases coming. The NCAA are starting to be a little more careful of what they want to challenge and try to strong hand . They let it get to this point and are still trying to have control but all there power has diminished. They had there darlings and everyone started to rebellion that's why we are where we are.

 

[midtnvol2]

Facebook seen also in comments to posts
boosters not happy with what their support.
and one poster
said that one of the twins
like comments about bad coaching
The bad coaching was Tennessee lady Vols staff.

All that was in the comments on lady Facebook group page.
it's been a few days ago

Wow that really lines up with the body language of the players and coaches in the tourny game against Alabama. Kim standing away from the team, not in the huddles, the players silent not talking to each other durng the game. And to me the worst part was when about 3 different times whne Alabama players literally slung LV plaers to the court and Kim didn't say one word to any of the officials. Her job is to protect her players during those moments. I know thses players are young, but to be at this level of college basketball you understand the game as a player and most have played on elite teams or AAU teams and tehy do know what good coaching and bad coaching looks like. But UT will probably UT this up and let her hang around a few more years and tear it down even further.

 

[Ovol]

TBH I’m holding out hope we are not in the tournament. Breaks my heart to say that but honestly I think it would be better.

No way do I see this team making some miraculous turnaround and winning two games as an 8 seed.

I also think it would be best if we were not in the tournament so we do not get anymore bad press on broadcasts. It’s been brutal to watch and sportscasters won’t shut up about it.

There would be a day or so of press about us missing the tourney and then we could start working on sorting things out for next season.

Better than potentially getting beat in the first round by 25 imo.

If we aren’t in the tournament, that’s all the announcers are going to gloat about. Endlessly.

 

[madtownvol]

TBH I’m holding out hope we are not in the tournament. Breaks my heart to say that but honestly I think it would be better.

Maybe better for your psyche but not the program. Having made every tournament is a big part of the program identity. Having that streak broken would generate more bad press than a loss.

 

[DeerPark12]

If you think they would stop talking about Tennessee not making the tournament after a day or two, I’m just going to assume that you are Amish and have never consumed media before.

 

[volfan2024]

Three losses to Vandy in any sport about seals the deal for me

 

[JL1231]

Three losses to Vandy in any sport about seals the deal for me

If they keep getting players like Blakes and Galvan, Vanderbilt will be beating a lot of teams.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Donors funds or money besides profit sharing has to be for a service from whomever receive the money. NCAA has to be informed on said payment of NIL to determine the legitimacy.

Based on data funneled through Deloitte: Zero conflict of interest there…

 

[chuckiepoo]

If we aren’t in the tournament, that’s all the announcers are going to gloat about. Endlessly.

Timelines incoming… DRINK!