UT hires Indiana’s Derek Owings as its new S&C coach

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MarkHodge said:
What I just thought. His body shape doesn't illecit discipline for the players.
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No coach is there for their level of conditioning. Heup won a Natty and is one of the sharpest offensive minds in all football. I think players respect that far more than if he benches as much as they do.
I will grant you that John Madden did inspire greatness by being the epitome of the male physique.
 
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90 Vol said:
Is there some correlation between BMI and coaching ability that I'm not aware of? Maybe we should review the analytics.
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Insulin resistance has been said to affect cognitive functioning. I believe that’s tied more to physical inactivity than BMI though.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
"Owings was on Cignetti’s staff for four previous seasons at James Madison University. In their six years together, the Dukes and Hoosiers won 64 games. Before that, Owings worked at Utah State and Central Florida. Here’s the connection: Derek was assistant strength coach for Heupel in 2018. Call that roots." Tennessee football hires Indiana strength coach - Knox TN Today

Furthermore, in "less than 12 hours after the Hoosiers’ victory in Miami, Owings was at work in Tennessee’s Anderson Training Center. Two Indiana assistants, Josh Huff and Carl Miller, are supposedly with him. Owings will soon bring in a nutritionist. Heupel and Owings actually shook hands on the working agreement several days ago. Heupel offered $1.2 million in salary, a world record for the position, and a budget to assemble whatever Owings considers necessary." So, it would seem that the principle applied to Knowles was also employed here: Bring in the very best and give them the latitude and resources to do their jobs to the very best of their respective abilities.
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I like a world where a man's word (and handshake) can be relied on.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I don’t know if he is better than any other p 4 S&C coach. But I do know this is the biggest hire Heupel has made here. The S&C coach is second only to the head coach in importance imo. Have you watched IU play? They are very physical. Would I feel the same if they won only 3 games? Depends on how they looked on the lines of scrimmage.

If you think S&C giachesvare a dime a dozen then you obviously have no idea how important they actually are.
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part of IU being more physical comes from sheer age of the players. a 22 or 23 year old is going to be more physically able than an 19 or 20 year old opponent.

their entire starting OL was red shirt juniors or red shirt seniors. their defensive line had one sophomore the rest were redshirt juniors and seniors.

and these aren't "normal" redshirt juniors or seniors. these are the ones like Carson Beck who also have the "free covid year" on top of their redshirt designation.

I hope I'm underestimating him and Tennessee is winning a natty in 2 years.
 
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WaywardVol said:
Yep, for one year
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So he knows what Heupel is about and still wanted to come here. That tells me we don't have to worry about Heupel getting in the way. Maybe Josh has finally surrounded himself with the right people, both on and off the field.
 
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wmcovol said:
Maybe he wanted out. Regardless of Indiana’s NC this morning, Tennessee is a high profile program. Maybe he prefers the South, or working for Heupel. I doubt money was the issue.
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Same reason some - including a few on this forum - are worried Cignetti will leave Indiana for Bama. Why would they dream up such a scenario? Because Alabama is a powerhouse program with rich tradition compared to Indiana.

So is Tennessee.

One national championship doesn't mean what Indiana is doing can be sustained for the next 50-100 years. But I guarantee they'll be in the discussion every year as long as Cignetti is there.
 
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rikberry31 said:
But someone is going to say "No correlation does not mean no causation."
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Football has been played a long ass time. If a fat coach caused more players to false start someone would have figured it out by now. "We have more penalties because our coach is fat" is quiet possibly the dumbest take of all time.
 
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VolCalls said:
Same reason some - including a few on this forum - are worried Cignetti will leave Indiana for Bama. Why would they dream up such a scenario? Because Alabama is a powerhouse program with rich tradition compared to Indiana.

So is Tennessee.

One national championship doesn't mean what Indiana is doing can be sustained for the next 50-100 years. But I guarantee they'll be in the discussion every year as long as Cignetti is there.
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I may be me but I sense some “issue” between Saban & Cignetti. I don’t think Saban picked them in any of their CFP games & Cignetti doesn’t appear to kneel at little Nicky’s feet. Cignetti is 63 or 64 so I doubt he looks for a challenge like Bama in 2-3 years.
 
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justinvolz said:
It is like South Carolina having 2 year run in basketball and Duke coming calling, Blue blood ROUND HERE
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I love the Vols but Tennessee football ain’t in the same category in FB as Duke is in basketball. Vols would be more Indiana, once a power but fighting to get back in the spotlight.
 
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