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knoxvol52 said:
I'm with Izzo. Once again this deprives the youngster development on the floor... I know piss on the Freshmen and Sophomores..
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Technically if someone never enrolled into college, then decided they wanted to after several years, they would be considered a Freshman during their first year. Your age does not determine your class. Arkansas has a 30 year old Sophomore receiver on their roster. If you have never even been to college then it would be against the law for them to deny you an opportunity to play for one of the athletic programs. We all have different life experiences and if someone wants to delay entering college then that should be their right.
 
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VolPack22 said:
Technically if someone never enrolled into college, then decided they wanted to after several years, they would be considered a Freshman during their first year. Your age does not determine your class. Arkansas has a 30 year old Sophomore receiver on their roster. If you have never even been to college then it would be against the law for them to deny you an opportunity to play for one of the athletic programs. We all have different life experiences and if someone wants to delay entering college then that should be their right.
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Well, one thing for sure, the amateur status issue got flushed five years ago.
 
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No matter the opinions of some, that was a great game.

The Army–Navy football game matters because it’s bigger than football.

First, it’s about service, not sports. Every player on that field is a future military officer. They’re not going pro; they’re committing to years of service after graduation. That makes the rivalry fundamentally different from any other college game.

Second, it’s one of the oldest and most continuous rivalries in American sports. The first game was in 1890. It predates the NFL, most college conferences, and even the forward pass. The traditions—march-ons, uniforms, prisoner exchange—are intact because neither academy treats it like just another game.

Third, it’s culturally and nationally symbolic. The game is played standalone in December with no competing college games. It draws attention from presidents, senior military leadership, and a national audience because it represents the Army–Navy rivalry across all branches, not just athletics.

Fourth, the rivalry is real beyond the field. Army and Navy officers will work together in joint operations, but the competition between the services is baked into their identity. This game is the one place where that rivalry is openly settled head-to-head.

Bottom line: it’s significant because it represents tradition, service, sacrifice, and institutional pride—not rankings, NIL money, or bowl payouts. That’s why it still matters.
 
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Halph66 said:
No matter the opinions of some, that was a great game.

The Army–Navy football game matters because it’s bigger than football.

First, it’s about service, not sports. Every player on that field is a future military officer. They’re not going pro; they’re committing to years of service after graduation. That makes the rivalry fundamentally different from any other college game.

Second, it’s one of the oldest and most continuous rivalries in American sports. The first game was in 1890. It predates the NFL, most college conferences, and even the forward pass. The traditions—march-ons, uniforms, prisoner exchange—are intact because neither academy treats it like just another game.

Third, it’s culturally and nationally symbolic. The game is played standalone in December with no competing college games. It draws attention from presidents, senior military leadership, and a national audience because it represents the Army–Navy rivalry across all branches, not just athletics.

Fourth, the rivalry is real beyond the field. Army and Navy officers will work together in joint operations, but the competition between the services is baked into their identity. This game is the one place where that rivalry is openly settled head-to-head.

Bottom line: it’s significant because it represents tradition, service, sacrifice, and institutional pride—not rankings, NIL money, or bowl payouts. That’s why it still matters.
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Well said!
 
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