Venezuela

What Do You Think About This?

  • Doesn't really make sense.

    Votes: 7 26.9%

  • Unnecessary.

    Votes: 12 46.2%

  • I love it! We can get more oil!

    Votes: 3 11.5%

  • I can see why it might happen, but not comfortable with it.

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Total voters
    26
#126
#126
You know what guys, I've come around.

In the spirit of America being the world's legal standard, why don't we just extend the entire BoR, Constitution, and federal code abroad. That means give everyone on the planet American rights, and start enforcing our laws on every person everywhere in the world. That seems like the right path.
 
#128
#128
jmacvols1 said:
The opposite of civilization is lawlessness and civil people do not commit lawlessness.

is it civilized when a country runs deadly drugs into other countries as China does to the US killing thousands of people every year?
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don't go reading the history of the CIA. or what the US was doing in China between 1899 and 1901.
 
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#129
#129
LouderVol said:
don't go reading the history of the CIA. or what the US was doing in China between 1899 and 1901.
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Hell, what about even more recently? Iran-Contra, CIA dumping drugs into American cities, CIA running drugs out of Afghanistan, and on and on.

This goober says our sanctions prevent lawlessness when boy howdy it turns out us and a select partner are causing most of the "lawlessness" and instability around the world.
 
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#132
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Republicans admit 'no one knows what the Venezuela mission is' as worries surge

Republicans and Democrats have found themselves united in confusion as they seek to understand what Donald Trump's goal is in Venezuela, as the administration continues to attack alleged drug smuggling ships.
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#133
#133
jmacvols1 said:
laws, sanctions are required to attempt to keep everything from falling apart.
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Yeah, the only developed country where it's dangerous to go around walking in cities alone at night needs to tell the rest of the world about law and order. 😅 Epstein Island is in the US Virgin Islands and that was a massive series of crimes against American children and a huge coverup by Trump and the rest of the American government, but we need to tell the rest of the world about laws and behaving in a civilized manner. And Trump just pardoned a drug trafficker.

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#134
#134
jmacvols1 said:
The opposite of civilization is lawlessness and civil people do not commit lawlessness.

is it civilized when a country runs deadly drugs into other countries as China does to the US killing thousands of people every year?
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Kind of like firearms, drugs dont kill people. It's the users freely making the poor choice to take them, ie american citizens bringing the consequences of drug use on themselves by their own hands. Neither China nor venezuela is forcing anyone to take anything.
 
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EasternVol said:
Maybe both.
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Fair. Well, without needing to engage in whatever the setup is for, and in response to your query (though I believe you to be intelligent enough to already know), the Monroe doctrine essentially said to the world (Europe at the time), “stay out of our business, and we’ll stay out of yours.”

TR later expanded on that a bit to include Latin America and some of South America in addition to N America.

I believe the poster is applying this broad general policy now to the expansionist ideals of modern China.

Regards,

RW
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Fair. Well, without needing to engage in whatever the setup is for, and in response to your query (though I believe you to be intelligent enough to already know), the Monroe doctrine essentially said to the world (Europe at the time), “stay out of our business, and we’ll stay out of yours.”

TR later expanded on that a bit to include Latin America and some of South America in addition to N America.

I believe the poster is applying this broad general policy now to the expansionist ideals of modern China.

Regards,

RW
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He is, and he's also forgetting the 'and we'll stay out of yours' part.
 
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SquirrelOrange3 said:
Yeah, the only developed country where it's dangerous to go around walking in cities alone at night needs to tell the rest of the world about law and order. 😅 Epstein Island is in the US Virgin Islands and that was a massive series of crimes against American children and a huge coverup by Trump and the rest of the American government, but we need to tell the rest of the world about laws and behaving in a civilized manner. And Trump just pardoned a drug trafficker.

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the judicial system in this country is corrupt. as seen by cashless bail, judges give very light to basically no sentences at all to criminals....when the law is not enforced violence rules. Laws and sanctions are used to try and keep lawlessness at bay but when laws and sanctions are not enforced lawlessness will continue unimpeded.

I do not agree with some of the pardons Trump is giving, but I do not remember the left being critical of Biden and the tons of criminals he pardoned....including his own criminal son other other criminal family members preemptively.

I take it from you that you think drug traffickers should be able to traffic drugs with no interference from law enforcement.
 
#146
#146
jvol1 said:
Kind of like firearms, drugs dont kill people. It's the users freely making the poor choice to take them, ie american citizens bringing the consequences of drug use on themselves by their own hands. Neither China nor venezuela is forcing anyone to take anything.
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drugs, unlike a gun, are illegal to import, to purchase and use. China is violating US law, people who buy and use those drugs are violating US law and should the US not enforce the law against China and these other lawbreakers? All laws should be abolished and people do as they please?
 
#148
#148
jmacvols1 said:
drugs, unlike a gun, are illegal to import, to purchase and use. China is violating US law, people who buy and use those drugs are violating US law and should the US not enforce the law against China and these other lawbreakers? All laws should be abolished and people do as they please?
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Guns are actually illegal to import, purchase and use without govt consent. Why can the same not be done with drugs? I'm not in favor of govt control but it's a far cry better than the lost WoD.

The jump from US drug laws being overreaching to abolishing all laws is a curious one. How do you even get there realistically in your mind?
 
#150
#150
utvolpj said:
So the US only uses sanctions when international laws are broken? Never for any other reason?
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sanctions are generally issued against other countries when laws are broken, to protect economic security or to thwart future problems as rogue nations getting access to nuclear bombs.
 
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