If Bama makes the CFP

No, its not. Which is a lie?

Vandy missed the playoff.
Vandy had 10 wins
Vandy had much stronger SOS than Miami
Vandy had a stronger SOR than Miami

Miami made the playoff
Miami didnt make conference champ game
A 7 win team won the ACC.

Miami finished 10-2 and their best win was over a top 12 Notre Dame after the regular season. Vandy finished 10-2 and they don’t have a single win against a ranked opponent after a regular season. Notice I didn’t say a top 5 Notre Dame team which was their ranking when they played Miami. I’m using the full 12 game season.

When you compare to the overall 12 game resumes, no one think can say that Vandy’s resume is better than Miami’s. Miami has a big win. Vandy has no big / good wins.

Vandy also has a Texas problem as well. The only way you can make a claim for Vandy to make it is to also say that Texas should be in. Which I don’t hear.
 
No, its not. Which is a lie?

Vandy missed the playoff.
Vandy went 10-2
Vandy had much stronger SOS than Miami
Vandy had a stronger SOR than Miami

Miami made the playoff
Miami went 10-2
Miami didnt make conference champ game
A 7-5 win team won the ACC.

Miami is weird because of the tiebreaker. They had a conference record to be in the championship game.
 
Miami finished 10-2 and their best win was over a top 12 Notre Dame after the regular season. Vandy finished 10-2 and they don’t have a single win against a ranked opponent after a regular season. Notice I didn’t say a top 5 Notre Dame team which was their ranking when they played Miami. I’m using the full 12 game season.

When you compare to the overall 12 game resumes, no one think can say that Vandy’s resume is better than Miami’s. Miami has a big win. Vandy has no big / good wins.

Vandy also has a Texas problem as well. The only way you can make a claim for Vandy to make it is to also say that Texas should be in. Which I don’t hear.

Vandy played 5 teams with a Top 25 SOR. Miami played 1.

Texas lost 3 times vs 2. Texas has a Florida loss.

Id argue Texas should be in over Miami too...
 
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I’ve changed my tune on this. I think Miami is in and either Bama or Notre Dame is out. I forgot that the committee had moved Bama ahead of ND last week, even though both won on Nov. 29. Choosing Miami or ND for the final at-large spot would allow them to do three things:

1. Protect the integrity of championship games by not penalizing a team for losing in one.

2. Utilize the easiest of metrics (head-to-head) to select the final At-large team, which protects the emphasis on scheduling good teams.

3. Maintain harmony among the P4 leagues by giving a bid to an ACC team.

The committee could also decide a team with three losses isn’t getting in - that’s an easy data point to default to, and Bama’s bad loss to FSU is a black eye ND or Miami doesn’t have.

Personally, I think ND is the best of those three teams right now. I also think Alabama has the best body of work of the three. It will be interesting to see what the committee does.
I absolutely can’t believe they dropped ND out. It was the right call as H2H has to mean something, I just can’t believe they actually did it.
 
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Vandy played 5 teams with a Top 25 SOR. Miami played 1.

Texas lost 3 times vs 2. Texas has a Florida loss.

Id argue Texas should be in over Miami too...

Vandy finished the season with no wins over ranked teams. Miami did. The fact you’re trying to invoke another data point to prop Vandy up shows you’re losing.

Also Texas having multiple top 10 wins trumps the Florida loss. Add in the head to head over Vandy and it was crystal clear Vandy had no shot.
 
No, its not. Which is a lie?

Vandy missed the playoff.
Vandy had 10 wins
Vandy had much stronger SOS than Miami
Vandy had a stronger SOR than Miami


Miami made the playoff
Miami didnt make conference champ game
A 7 win team won the ACC.
Wait, did Vanderbilt beat anyone who was still ranked at year’s end? Both Tennessee and Missouri had fallen out of the CFP rankings by the end of the regular season.
 
Agree or not, the committee followed the stated principles. Strength of record and head-to-head were the first two criteria.
Problem there is that the Committee had ND ahead of Miami since November 4th. Then, all of a sudden...literally last night...they flip.

Again, gotta eliminate the human element, or get used to more of this in the years to come.
 
Healthy for the sport to see Notre Dame excluded for a change, they've travelled on the independent no conference affiliation schtick for a long time, but a schedule chocked full of losing programs and losing at home to Miami and Texas A & M won't stack up against the other proven competitors and highly competitive programs playing in very difficult conferences.

Looking at the teams within the playoff this year, Oklahoma goes in much like Tennessee did last year, avoiding the playoff game with the two loss maximum, but not available for any SEC team with three losses. Ole Miss rolls in as a one loss team, avoiding the conference championship game as well.

Miami slides in on a record, but an inability to compete in the ACC conference championship given their tie breaker framework, comparable to how Oklahoma and Ole Miss got in with solid records and avoidance of the conference championship game.

But looking at the playoff framework you see how far Tennessee football and Heupel's program has fallen from a playoff appearance in 2024 and the extreme conference schedule hardship that will present itself for a shot at returning to the playoff in 2026.

And Vanderbilt's Cinderella Season can wind out down there in Orlando or perhaps poke around over there in Tampa, but could easily slip over to the Gator Bowl, all depending on where they need to stick Texas into the conversation.

Given the costs incurred in appearing in certain bowl games, would expect to see certain programs simply pass, as given the fan apathy in certain programs and the undesirability of various locations, those bowl events will be money losing propositions for the schools, but conferences may limit their share of the conference revenue for sitting out a bowl game.
 
I’m not arguing on their behalf. Just the lack of championship appearance came down to a 4 or 5 way tie and makes that basis oddball to me.

Miami is the better team in my opinion. But if you are going to have a SOS metric and SOR metric, you need to apply them consistently and not pick and choose when to use them.

My point is why was Miami seen as worthy flr playoff discussion and Texas and Vandy afterthoughts...
 
Havent read all the responses but pertaining to Bama I never felt like they should have been in…even before the trouncing in the SEC championship game. THEY LOST TO A TERRIBLE FLORIDA STATE TEAM!!! JMO
 
And he’s right. Tulane has already lost by 35 to Ole Miss. Did anyone watch JMU the other night ? They’re terrible, their SOS is awful and their quality wins are awful.
Yeah, it's just the "no disrespect to the G5" that made me guffaw.

Saban being gelded by ESPN is funny to see. He has PLENTY of disrespect for the G5 in the playoff conversation. They do suck and he knows it.

This ain't the Nick Saban who said "There's only one easy game in the SEC and that's Vandy" or whatever it was. And, yeah yeah, I know they lost to them finally but Saban spoke his mind freely at one time.
 
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