Three pointers percentage NCAA team rankings

[mudcat1973]

NCAA College Women's Basketball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com
Being interesting to see where the SEC teams finished end of season.
But here's where each SEC teams is ranked now .
Second post on this thread.
Should Tennessee less three three's pointers or better shot selection.
Comments welcome
Link works if want to check NCAA 3-pointers stats for yourself or some other team or players stats

 

[mudcat1973]

NCAA College Women's Basketball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com

Rank # games played 3 pointers %
1 LSU 8 3-pointers 44.36%
5 Missouri 9 3 pointers 40.43%
26 South Carolina 8 3-pointers 37.74%
27 Alabama 8 3-pointers 37.72
33 Vanderbilt 8 3-pointers 36.79
35 Texas 8 3-pointers 36.73%
41 Arkansas 9 3-pointers 36.32%
43 Georgia 9 3-pointers 36.31%
46 Mississippi state 8 3-pointers 36.15%
114 Oklahoma 8 3-pointers 32.63%
119 Kentucky 9 3-pointers 32.32%
186 Old Miss 7 3-pointers 30.26%
205 Auburn 9 3-pointers 29.53%
208 Tennessee 7 3-pointers 29.41%
226 Texas A&M 6 3-pointers 28.81%
309 Florida 9 3-pointers 25.61%
Last update Wednesday December 03 6:12 am
Games through December 02 Tuesday

 

[Volfan2012]

NCAA College Women's Basketball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com
Being interesting to see where the SEC teams finished end of season.
But here's where each SEC teams is ranked now .
Second post on this thread.
Should Tennessee less three three's pointers or better shot selection.
Comments welcome
Link works if want to check NCAA 3-pointers stats for yourself or some other team or players stats

No doubt less threes more of an offense like the fourth quarter of the Stanford game for the entire game.

 

[RetroVol]

Rank # games played 3 pointers %
1 LSU 8 3-pointers 44.36%
5 Missouri 9 3 pointers 40.43%
26 South Carolina 8 3-pointers 37.74%
27 Alabama 8 3-pointers 37.72
33 Vanderbilt 8 3-pointers 36.79
35 Texas 8 3-pointers 36.73%
41 Arkansas 9 3-pointers 36.32%
43 Georgia 9 3-pointers 36.31%
46 Mississippi state 8 3-pointers 36.15%
114 Oklahoma 8 3-pointers 32.63%
119 Kentucky 9 3-pointers 32.32%
186 Old Miss 7 3-pointers 30.26%
205 Auburn 9 3-pointers 29.53%
208 Tennessee 7 3-pointers 29.41%
226 Texas A&M 6 3-pointers 28.81%
309 Florida 9 3-pointers 25.61%
Last update Wednesday December 03 6:12 am
Games through December 02 Tuesday

We only need to get about 10% better on our 3pt shooting to be right where Kim's teams have usually been. That is also a level in which an open 3 early in the shot clock is definitely the best shot for the CKC system. I believe this team will settle in, learn when to take 3s, some will find their touch, the contagion effect will start running in a positive direction and they'll achieve that 10% improvement.

 

[Col_Cathcart]

We only need to get about 10% better on our 3pt shooting to be right where Kim's teams have usually been. That is also a level in which an open 3 early in the shot clock is definitely the best shot for the CKC system. I believe this team will settle in, learn when to take 3s, some will find their touch, the contagion effect will start running in a positive direction and they'll achieve that 10% improvement.

10% is a pretty big jump. I doubt they end the season below 30% like they are now, but I also doubt they get anywhere close to 40…

 

[chuckiepoo]

10% is a pretty big jump. I doubt they end the season below 30% like they are now, but I also doubt they get anywhere close to 40…

I should have posted when it first crossed my mind, the ten percent increase applied to the current percentage, not the overall. Ten percent of 29.1% is a 2.91% increase, resulting in about 32%, Kim’s target.

…damn the maffs…

 

[RetroVol]

10% is a pretty big jump. I doubt they end the season below 30% like they are now, but I also doubt they get anywhere close to 40…

Ummm... Maybe I'm doing the math wrong. Right now they are shooting about 29% on threes. A ten percent improvement on that would be 2.9%. So, at the current rate of 33 three-point attempts per game, about the more competitions per game. Not the l that big of a jump.

 

[RetroVol]

I should have posted when it first crossed my mind, the ten percent increase applied to the current percentage, not the overall. Ten percent of 29.1% is a 2.91% increase, resulting in about 32%, Kim’s target.

…damn the maffs…

I didn't think 32% is the target. It's where Kim's team have typically performed. I guess the goal is somewhat higher. But right now, bet she would take 32!

 

[Col_Cathcart]

Ummm... Maybe I'm doing the math wrong. Right now they are shooting about 29% on threes. A ten percent improvement on that would be 2.9%. So, at the current rate of 33 three-point attempts per game, about the more competitions per game. Not the l that big of a jump.

I read it as 10% better than 29% would be 39%. Doing %s of %s isn’t really good mathing because it’s ambiguous if you’re talking about subtracting 10% of 71% or adding 10% of 29% or adding 10% of the total.

Regardless, I agree that getting up around 32 or 33 should be totally doable and would help a lot.

 

[madtownvol]

I read it as 10% better than 29% would be 39%. Doing %s of %s isn’t really good mathing because it’s ambiguous if you’re talking about subtracting 10% of 71% or adding 10% of 29% or adding 10% of the total.

Regardless, I agree that getting up around 32 or 33 should be totally doable and would help a lot.

I will take 33% for every game too! Let’s get the contract to CKC. It’s a good deal!

 

[knoxvol52]

 

[Volfan2012]

I read it as 10% better than 29% would be 39%. Doing %s of %s isn’t really good mathing because it’s ambiguous if you’re talking about subtracting 10% of 71% or adding 10% of 29% or adding 10% of the total.

Regardless, I agree that getting up around 32 or 33 should be totally doable and would help a lot.

34 percent is the actual target if your going to take half you shots as three point attempts. Were falling just slightly under 50 percent at 47 percent, but will use 50 as point comparison. 80 shots and 40 are threes then 40 times 34 percent would be 13.6 made that would equal 41 points. Were making 52 percent of our two point shots so if were taking 40 that would be 21 made or 42 points. Only way you can equal the efficiency of three pointers being as valuable is 34 percent and that is what Coach Kim said the team would like to make. Certainly doesn't take in the effect of the ability to get fouled on two point attempts which make the point total shooting twos higher, but 34 percent would be efficient enough to warrant taking 40 in a game. If you had a team that was making 39 percent that ups 40 attempts up to 47 points. You might want to get that number up to 50 or more if you had a team doing that percentage.

Were making 28 percent that comes out to 34 points on 40 attempts.

 

[RetroVol]

34 percent is the actual target if your going to take half you shots as three point attempts. Were falling just slightly under 50 percent at 47 percent, but will use 50 as point comparison. 80 shots and 40 are threes then 40 times 34 percent would be 13.6 made that would equal 41 points. Were making 52 percent of our two point shots so if were taking 40 that would be 21 made or 42 points. Only way you can equal the efficiency of three pointers being as valuable is 34 percent and that is what Coach Kim said the team would like to make. Certainly doesn't take in the effect of the ability to get fouled on two point attempts which make the point total shooting twos higher, but 34 percent would be efficient enough to warrant taking 40 in a game. If you had a team that was making 39 percent that ups 40 attempts up to 47 points. You might want to get that number up to 50 or more if you had a team doing that percentage.

Were making 28 percent that comes out to 34 points on 40 attempts.

@Volfan2012, I get where you're coming from, but I think there are other factors to consider. There's an interesting article by Cora Hall on the analytics that CKC and her staff, with the help of her husband, Justin, have implemented this year. Here's a section that addresses this:

Justin's deep dive included looking at points per possession on every kind of shot the Lady Vols took last season. Then he broke down the best shots for every player, including the transfers and freshmen.

When the freshmen got on campus in June, Justin charted all Tennessee's practices from film for five weeks. He broke it down into four categories: rim shots, paint shots, midrange shots and catch-and-shoot 3-pointers.
Justin's deep dive included looking at points per possession on every kind of shot the Lady Vols took last season. Then he broke down the best shots for every player, including the transfers and freshmen.

When the freshmen got on campus in June, Justin charted all Tennessee's practices from film for five weeks. He broke it down into four categories: rim shots, paint shots, midrange shots and catch-and-shoot 3-pointers.

"When you get that, you can say, hey, you're getting one point per possession on a catch and shoot three. You're getting .90 on a rim shot. You're getting .68 on a mid-range and .74 on a paint shot,” Justin said. “And when you see that, how effective do you want to be?”

I've seen another poster in this forum discuss these kind of analytics, so maybe someone with even more knowledge will chip in, but it does seem that for some players, at least, a catch-and-shoot 3 is their best shot. Or maybe those numbers are the average for all? Don't know. Hard to say from the way the article is worded. But an open catch-and-shoot 3 early in the shot clock benefits CKC's system by increasing the pace of the game, thus tiring the other team. It also opens up the possibility of offensive rebounds, thus increasing the points-per-possession. And rebounding is another area of emphasis.

There are two indications in the story of how detailed and personal these analytics are, and how it is affecting players. First, Talaysia:

The results have already started to show on an individual level for Talaysia Cooper. As Tennessee's leading scorer last season, Cooper shot 44.7% from the field, but only 26.7% on 3-pointers and 21% on midrange shots.

Cooper significantly decreased her number of midrange jumpers this season, and she shot 56.8% on 2-pointers and 34.2% on 3-pointers through the first six games.

And, second for Deniya:

When Deniya Prawl gets her stat sheet every week, it surprises her every time.

The freshman guard wasn't used to seeing her stat breakdown on paper. It includes stats for different kinds of shots, effective field goal percentage and points per possession.
The numbers that are where they should be are in green, and the ones that aren't are in red. The goal is to constantly communicate which shots are most efficient for each player.

"It's been really good for Deniya," Caldwell said. "It's been very eye-opening for her. The days that she puts her head down and gets to the rim, she's much more efficient than days that she fades away from contact."

I've seen this in Deniya's approach the last few games, and she's looking much better.

So, anyway, it seems the Lady Vols are paying attention to the analytics and using them to help individual players perform better. GBO!

 

[volnationnj]

I would like to see a breakdown of why our bigs can't get assists. Is it they don't pass the ball, or is it that whomever gets the pass, doesn't make the shot ?
Look at these stats:
Barker 25.4 mins/gm. 0.9 assists/gm
Spearman 27.4 mins/gm. 0.6 assists/gm
Latham. 13.2 mins/gm. 0.3 assists/gm
Wolfenbarger. 9.9 m/gm. 0.0 assassists.

That's right. Wolfenbarger, in 69 minutes of play this season, doesn't have a single assist.

 

[glv98]

@Volfan2012, I get where you're coming from, but I think there are other factors to consider. There's an interesting article by Cora Hall on the analytics that CKC and her staff, with the help of her husband, Justin, have implemented this year. Here's a section that addresses this:



I've seen another poster in this forum discuss these kind of analytics, so maybe someone with even more knowledge will chip in, but it does seem that for some players, at least, a catch-and-shoot 3 is their best shot. Or maybe those numbers are the average for all? Don't know. Hard to say from the way the article is worded. But an open catch-and-shoot 3 early in the shot clock benefits CKC's system by increasing the pace of the game, thus tiring the other team. It also opens up the possibility of offensive rebounds, thus increasing the points-per-possession. And rebounding is another area of emphasis.

There are two indications in the story of how detailed and personal these analytics are, and how it is affecting players. First, Talaysia:



And, second for Deniya:



I've seen this in Deniya's approach the last few games, and she's looking much better.

So, anyway, it seems the Lady Vols are paying attention to the analytics and using them to help individual players perform better. GBO!

Interesting! So Kims husband is shadow coaching. I wonder if that's OK with all the Jon Harper haters? I suspect it probably is because Justin's role is in the background and not visual on the court. I don't think the Jon faux outrage was ever about the actual coaching, I think it was a complicated thing about the visuals and politics. And it was very short sighted and frankly embarrassing given the prevalence of successful husband/wife coaching teams around the league and even within our own university. Rank hypocrisy.

Also, on a gut level It just doesn't feel like more analytics is what this team needs. What this team needs is more of the intangibles. All this analytic data does not feel very "freeing" to me. Good info but trust some player instinct too.

 

[RetroVol]

I wonder if that's OK with all the Jon Harper haters? I suspect it probably is because Justin's role is in the background and not visual on the court.

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention. That Justin and Kim are a basketball couple and that she talks about her team's challenges with him has been very open. I remember her crediting him with diagnosing an early season problem with one of her Glenville State teams.

The story also talks about the emphasis on rebounding and how Kim delegated this to Roman Tubner. She seems willing to seek new knowledge and trust her staff. I think it is a big part of her system.

 

[glv98]

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention. That Justin and Kim are a basketball couple and that she talks about her team's challenges with him has been very open. I remember her crediting him with diagnosing an early season problem with one of her Glenville State teams.

The story also talks about the emphasis on rebounding and how Kim delegated this to Roman Tubner. She seems willing to seek new knowledge and trust her staff. I think it is a big part of her system.

Absolutely not a surprise. Husband/wife coaching teams are all over the place, that's part of my point. It's just that the outrage against Jon Harper was so bizarre and so misplaced and now with this, so hypocritical. He was just a whipping boy for everything folks didn't like about Kellie.

I love that Kim seeks out help, even late career Pat did that.

 

[Volfan2012]

Interesting! So Kims husband is shadow coaching. I wonder if that's OK with all the Jon Harper haters? I suspect it probably is because Justin's role is in the background and not visual on the court. I don't think the Jon faux outrage was ever about the actual coaching, I think it was a complicated thing about the visuals and politics. And it was very short sighted and frankly embarrassing given the prevalence of successful husband/wife coaching teams around the league and even within our own university. Rank hypocrisy.

Also, on a gut level It just doesn't feel like more analytics is what this team needs. What this team needs is more of the intangibles. All this analytic data does not feel very "freeing" to me. Good info but trust some player instinct too.

Fairly simple that no matter which player is shooting them or what they did in high school or elsewhere that 34 percent is the number that makes the 3 point shot equal to the two point shot if you are averaging 52 percent. If we continue at 28 percent it just means trouble scoring enough points if were shooting half our shots as threes.

The breakdown on Texas is 70 two point shots and 30 three point shots and they are shooting a higher percentage of threes than we are. We'll have to find a way to get that number up last year 32.5 was adequate to score a lot of points we usually just couldn't prevent the other teams in a lot of games from scoring a few more.

 

[Volfan2012]

To add if your strength is the three it should be your shot. That means you can consistently average 34 percent over a certain amount of games. You should be taking that shot. If you making 20 percent over a certain amount of games that should not be your shot.
We have some decent three point shooters problem I see is they are not taking the majority of the three point shots some of the 20 to 25 percent are taking them.

 

[volnationnj]

The team takes 33.0 3pt shots per game. That's the second highest attempts in Division 1. But shooting 28.4% isn't cutting it.
3 PT % of other teams are for comparison. All are in the top 50 of 3pt %:
LSU. 44.4%
South Carolina 39.3%
UConn 38.2%
UCLA. 37.8%
Vanderbilt 36.6%

 

[Volfan2012]

The team takes 33.0 3pt shots per game. That's the second highest attempts in Division 1. But shooting 28.4% isn't cutting it.
3 PT % of other teams are for comparison. All are in the top 50 of 3pt %:
LSU. 44.4%
South Carolina 39.3%
UConn 38.2%
UCLA. 37.8%
Vanderbilt 36.6%

Looks ok with just five shooters Cooper, Barker, Robertson, Pauldo, and Civil 59 of 179 for 33 percent. It comes apart with the other players all shooting very low percentages.

 

[volsagain]

Absolutely not a surprise. Husband/wife coaching teams are all over the place, that's part of my point. It's just that the outrage against Jon Harper was so bizarre and so misplaced and now with this, so hypocritical. He was just a whipping boy for everything folks didn't like about Kellie.

I love that Kim seeks out help, even late career Pat did that.

If you're a true VFL you truly wanted Kellie to succeed ! Think most people were just wanting to pin the blame on someone else. Kellie was such an outstanding player and played for the best coach ever it was hard to not see her being successful. For what ever reason she just couldn't recruit very well. I hope she does great at Missouri except against the lady vols.

 

[glv98]

If you're a true VFL you truly wanted Kellie to succeed ! Think most people were just wanting to pin the blame on someone else. Kellie was such an outstanding player and played for the best coach ever it was hard to not see her being successful. For what ever reason she just couldn't recruit very well. I hope she does great at Missouri except against the lady vols.

Yes Jon was a whipping boy. And Kellie had lots of other problems. It just seemed so backwards and regressive when there's other spouse coaches not just across the country and conference, but also on our own volleyball team!

Kelle had a nice win last night. Good for them.

 

[chuckiepoo]

@Volfan2012, I get where you're coming from, but I think there are other factors to consider. There's an interesting article by Cora Hall on the analytics that CKC and her staff, with the help of her husband, Justin, have implemented this year. Here's a section that addresses this:



I've seen another poster in this forum discuss these kind of analytics, so maybe someone with even more knowledge will chip in, but it does seem that for some players, at least, a catch-and-shoot 3 is their best shot. Or maybe those numbers are the average for all? Don't know. Hard to say from the way the article is worded. But an open catch-and-shoot 3 early in the shot clock benefits CKC's system by increasing the pace of the game, thus tiring the other team. It also opens up the possibility of offensive rebounds, thus increasing the points-per-possession. And rebounding is another area of emphasis.

There are two indications in the story of how detailed and personal these analytics are, and how it is affecting players. First, Talaysia:



And, second for Deniya:



I've seen this in Deniya's approach the last few games, and she's looking much better.

So, anyway, it seems the Lady Vols are paying attention to the analytics and using them to help individual players perform better. GBO!

You can bet yer ass Kellie was and is using analytics…

 

[chuckiepoo]

It's just that the outrage against Jon Harper was so bizarre and so misplaced and now with this, so hypocritical. He was just a whipping boy for everything folks didn't like about Kellie.

I ignored the narrative then, I’m ignoring it now (kinda). But by all means, let’s continue to discuss…