We also have an offense problem…..

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Many of us are upset with the defense and want something done but we also have an offense problem that must be fixed…..in the 2nd half. We scored less in the 2nd half in 7 of our games. Why? Many of us complained that Heupel takes his foot off of the gas.

OPP. 1st Half 2nd Half
Syr. 31 14
ETSU. 48 24
UGA. 21 20
UAB. 42 14
MSST. 17 24
ARK. 17 17
KY. 35 21
OK. 10 17
NMST. 21 21
FL. 31 0
VAN. 21 3

Total. 301 188

Some might argue that some of this gap is caused by allowing 2nd and 3rd’s to play in the 2nd half against ETSU and UAB but even then, it appears to me that Huepel takes his foot off of the gas and doesn’t allow his 2’s and 3’s to ball out. What are your opinions? Any concern’s?
 
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Vandy limited the times our offense had the ball with long drives that took time off the clock. Florida did the same thing.

You can't score or get in a rhythm on offense if you don't have the ball.

All teams have started doing that.
 
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VolRage said:
Many of us are upset with the defense and want something done but we also have an offense problem that must be fixed…..in the 2nd half. We scored less in the 2nd half in 7 of our games. Why? Many of us complained that Heupel takes his foot off of the gas.

OPP. 1st Half 2nd Half
Syr. 31 14
ETSU. 48 24
UGA. 21 20
UAB. 42 14
MSST. 17 24
ARK. 17 17
KY. 35 21
OK. 10 17
NMST. 21 21
FL. 31 0
VAN. 21 3

Total. 301 188

Some might argue that some of this gap is caused by allowing 2nd and 3rd’s to play in the 2nd half against ETSU and UAB but even then, it appears to me that Huepel takes his foot off of the gas and doesn’t allow his 2’s and 3’s to ball out. What are your opinions? Any concern’s?
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Depth and conditioning for the O Line might play into that. Quite a few young guys there who haven't had a couple of years to develop college level stamina and strength.

Also, we've seen a fair amount of Heupel not anticipating that his opponents will make halftime defensive adjustments and being ready with some offensive twists from our first half gameplan. It looks like "turtling" but some of it is our first half plans being faced with defensive adjustments that make us less effective on offense.
 
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Cartervol said:
Well the knock on this offense has been it's simplicity.. Good teams adjust and Tennessee hasn't had a good counterpunch.. Definitely something they're going to have to address..
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The good thing about a simple playbook is that a guy like Joey A can come in and pick it up relatively easily in a couple of months.

The bad thing about a simple playbook is you don't have much variety to counter adjustments by the defense, apparently, and the second and third time a good D sees that play, it's less effective.
 
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I agree we have an offense problem but people just look at the stats without looking into it. We played lights out against a bunch of bad teams and an UGA team that didn't have film. We put film out against UGA and the other 3 teams with a pulse were able to exploit it. I appreciate joey but he ain't it going forward
 
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We don’t know if we wanna hurry up or slow down. Offense has been so different after Golish left. Idk if everyone has just caught up with this offense.
Example- Kiffin very similar offense, can’t win the big game. (Rarely)
Lebby is terrible, same offense.
Golish - we will see.
Heupel- has won big games (sorta like Kiffin))
All these guys get blown out alot.
Linebackers have gotten worse and we know Willie M suck as DB coach .It’s not hard to see there’s major problems
 
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We have an excuse problem. Other programs with our revenue and resources are outclassing us on the field. period. Transfer Portal, NIL, ... yes. Other programs are getting it done with the same complications.

We are outclassing programs with a fraction of our revenue and resources.... well most of them.
 
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The offense works best when the run game is going. They couldn't run it or stopped running it against Vandy. Against UF in 2nd half they had 2 drives where they just ran the ball down their throat. One was a missed field goal the other ended the game. They only had 3 drives the whole 2nd half. If they had wanted to they could have put up another TD or 2 in that game. Vandy is the biggest anomaly, once they went 3 and out on the 1st drive of the 2nd half it was all over.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Vandy limited the times our offense had the ball with long drives that took time off the clock. Florida did the same thing.

You can't score or get in a rhythm on offense if you don't have the ball.

All teams have started doing that.
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Vandy scored at end of 2Q. Then 20 minute half. Then a 6 minute drive and td to start to 3rd. We got the ball for first time in an hour and 3 and out. Vandy takes it on another 6 minute drive and scores again. They had the ball 12 minutes of the 3rd quarter and scored 3 tds as our offense had the ball once since the first of those 3 tds. No offense around can click consistently while sitting there and watching the clock tick as they give up another 3rd down conversion before another td. Offense doesn’t even get up to get ready to get back out there on 3rd downs anymore.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The good thing about a simple playbook is that a guy like Joey A can come in and pick it up relatively easily in a couple of months.

The bad thing about a simple playbook is you don't have much variety to counter adjustments by the defense, apparently, and the second and third time a good D sees that play, it's less effective.
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That's exactly what happened.
 
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Defense needs an overhaul. They don't do anything really well on a consistent basis.

However, there are some things that need improving on offense. The OL needs to be stronger and tougher. The scheme needs more diversity and creativity (see vandy), although some of that may be attributed to limited prep time with our last minute qb. Coaches need to be better at making in-game adjustments based on the defense, especially in the second half. And yes, he needs to keep the pedal to the medal. All that being said, the offense enhancements should be easier to implement than the crap show on defense.
 
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VolRage said:
Many of us are upset with the defense and want something done but we also have an offense problem that must be fixed…..in the 2nd half. We scored less in the 2nd half in 7 of our games. Why? Many of us complained that Heupel takes his foot off of the gas.

OPP. 1st Half 2nd Half
Syr. 31 14
ETSU. 48 24
UGA. 21 20
UAB. 42 14
MSST. 17 24
ARK. 17 17
KY. 35 21
OK. 10 17
NMST. 21 21
FL. 31 0
VAN. 21 3

Total. 301 188

Some might argue that some of this gap is caused by allowing 2nd and 3rd’s to play in the 2nd half against ETSU and UAB but even then, it appears to me that Huepel takes his foot off of the gas and doesn’t allow his 2’s and 3’s to ball out. What are your opinions? Any concern’s?
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Might be that Heupel has lost his stinger and takes his foot off the gas? Might be opponents know you can make adjustments at halftime and during the games? Might be our 2s and 3s just aren't being developed or are coming on very slowly?
 
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VolRage said:
Many of us are upset with the defense and want something done but we also have an offense problem that must be fixed…..in the 2nd half. We scored less in the 2nd half in 7 of our games. Why? Many of us complained that Heupel takes his foot off of the gas.

OPP. 1st Half 2nd Half
Syr. 31 14
ETSU. 48 24
UGA. 21 20
UAB. 42 14
MSST. 17 24
ARK. 17 17
KY. 35 21
OK. 10 17
NMST. 21 21
FL. 31 0
VAN. 21 3

Total. 301 188

Some might argue that some of this gap is caused by allowing 2nd and 3rd’s to play in the 2nd half against ETSU and UAB but even then, it appears to me that Huepel takes his foot off of the gas and doesn’t allow his 2’s and 3’s to ball out. What are your opinions? Any concern’s?
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Hard to make half time adjustments when you are busy doing the OC's job and are too stubborn to hire one that you trust.
 
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What I am seeing is in the games where we needed to score more points in the second half than the first, we did, with the exception of Vandy and Georgia. Make the field goal against Georgia and we would have scored more in the second half and won the game. We scored more in the second half against MSU and won the game. We scored more in the second half against Bama and Oklahoma but it wasn't enough.
 
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I think we slow down our offense to help out the defense, but our offense's advantage is its rhythm. We slow it down, we lose our rhythm and our effectiveness. Our defense isn't holding up their end of the deal, giving up long drives and points, and our offense has no chance to get any rhythm.

Heupel should have realized what our defense is, and should have never taken the foot off the gas. He's done it several times this year and it has cost us. If we were going to win, we would have to win in shootout fashion. It honestly don't matter how well rested our defense is, they're giving up points. They give up points the first drive of the game, they give up points the first drive of the 2nd half. That's not a rest problem, that's a bad defense problem.
 
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