Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[thistime]

Only because we had a ridiculously weak schedule this year.

It is what it is.........moving on....

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

I’m glad we allowed Boo to be paid handsomely for minimal effort and kill our locker room. And we allowed McCoy to use our facilities to train and get paid all year. I think our players ran over our coach and it showed on the field. Need coaches with back bones and not ones who want to be best friends with players. This team screamed of no accountability

Ya know, this is actually a very valid point that I hadn’t considered. All of what you state—minus the McCoy stuff because I think that’s acceptable given what happened was beyond his control—add in last year’s issues, there’s definitely something to what your selling.

 

[GVol1966]

How did Nico screw us out of the playoff? He's a worse QB than Aguilar and we are probably 6-6 with him right now. Dylan Sampson and the defense carried his bum ass last year.

Possibly. Hard to say and impossible to prove.
He would have most likely made improvements if he’d stayed here , but he went to a terrible team.
What would Joey be doing at UCLA?
Nobody really knows.
Joey is a team player and Nico is a me player.
I’m glad we got Joey of the two.

 

[Tncurler]

I don't think he's irreplaceable, but you are crazy if you want to jump into this coaching search pool this year. He has to make changes this off season or he will not be here much longer, period. Last years defense was all our D line and Mcoy, not banks scheming. 4/5 years his defense has been bad. No more excuses for him . Special teams needs fixing and Strength/cond needs to up its game. Just sick of it.

Agree totally, you are spot on, if Banks could scheme, this was a good year to prove it. Tonight’s game was just embarrassing on the defensive side.

 

[VolMike16]

I’m glad we allowed Boo to be paid handsomely for minimal effort and kill our locker room. And we allowed McCoy to use our facilities to train and get paid all year. I think our players ran over our coach and it showed on the field. Need coaches with back bones and not ones who want to be best friends with players. This team screamed of no accountability

This is the only thing I think we lost with this board's hard on for Golesh. He was a hard ass who demanded accountability. Heupel is way too much of a players coach. Halzle is not at all that guy imo.

 

[VolNash17]

Just wait… 9 game SEC schedule. Lmao it’s ridiculous

 

[drvenner]

That was embarrassing. I feel like a lot of players didn't bleed orange tonight. Banks has got to go. I appreciate his hard work and wish him and his family the best, but our defense is lost and broken.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

I actually do have a serious question for some stats nerds out there. In Heupel’s tenure, how many games have we lost where we didn’t score on the opening drive versus how many we won where we did score first?

I’ve noticed that we come out hot but if we don’t score first, it’s almost like the playbook we had drawn up is thrown away and we’re deciding on the fly.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Alright, that's it for a few months. Thank you to the emotionally stable fans in here. To the rest of you, remember to put your socks on before your shoes and to color inside the lines.

Go vols!

 

[KPT_VFL]

The foundation is set. We aren’t a dumpster like before. Heupel has to make serious changes in defense or the next coach will be in a good positions to compete right away.

I still like Heupel and think he can get us there. SEC only getting harder though.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Has Heupel ever fired anybody?

He has to now. I can't stomach another year of Tim Banks cranking out a defense that performs like this. Absolutely unacceptable.

I understand the defense may look a little worse because of our offense. This is different. Our defense was worse than just about any I can remember. It feels like they were worse than Sunseri. They couldn't even tackle when they got hands on them. They didnt even know how to take proper angles.

Yutes & injuries can only explain so much. What about the inability to adjust during the game? The inability to know when to blitz/spy? There are several more things, but I won't beat a dead horse.

It's just time to cut him loose. I don't think there is any way Heupel can justify bringing him back.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Some of yall are hypocritical as hell , those yelling “Nico sucks joey is better” are the same ones using the excuse of “we lost our qb in the spring!”

Which one is it? If joey is an upgrade, then losing nico wasnt an issue, if it was an issue then that’s admitting nico is better

We upgraded at that position, but that bad apple lead to a lot of ripple effect. Having to pay more to keep Matthews, Gibson, Boo, etc. to keep them came from Nico’s first hostage negotiation for extra $.

We also had to scramble to find a QB last minute instead of trying to add more pieces on D for example.

Joey > Nico, but that distraction had a negative impact overall.

 

[screenthis]

Good thing I missed the game. Leads to much fewer 'the sky is falling' feelings.

 

[VolNash17]

AD White is a tremendous AD but he should theoretically be paying us a talent fee for having to watch this

 

[drvenner]

In the end...this is the most important thing..this is my little baby Foster who everyone was praying for just a few weeks ago. He is doing great thank the good Lord...and he makes my heart glad..

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Thank you!! Beautiful baby.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

I’m glad we allowed Boo to be paid handsomely for minimal effort and kill our locker room. And we allowed McCoy to use our facilities to train and get paid all year. I think our players ran over our coach and it showed on the field. Need coaches with back bones and not ones who want to be best friends with players. This team screamed of no accountability

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Terrible. Inge unit is horrid. Why would we want him to handle our defense? He needs to go

Need to hire a DC and let him bring his staff he wants to coach the defense. End of story. If you want to give the reins to a DC, then let him bring who he wants to teach his scheme. Garner is gone anyways. Plus Marion Hobby is on staff and was an elite DL coach at Clemson. Maybe the new guy will want him.

 

[knoxvol52]

And yet Texas and UGA have improved as the season went on. The one that didn’t, us… it’s a bad excuse.

You're wasting your time...talking to the wall .

 

[dmwvol12]

I’ve watched football for a while. It’s been bad forever, and I’ve said so. This was the same crew that called OPI against Brazzell against MSU. I was at that game, and it was almost a game-changing call. The line at this level is razor thin. So many close games and situations. I’ve also stated it in many wins. If you don’t think the conference/networks want certain outcomes, then more power to you. The Vandy OL couldn’t really block our DL much without grabbing or turning them. Just break it down and watch. Don’t just watch the ball.

There were 4 egregious (being conservative) non calls on holds on top of the others (also the roughing call on Pavia v. non call on Joey). These are all subjective calls on huge plays. A false start can’t be subjective. It’s literally a billion dollar business.

A wise man once said that being indifferent is worse than the crime itself. People are free to think what they want. Now, comparing me to a spoiled child? Gold. I like this place to be an outlet for the real world, but it’s kind of gotten insufferable at times. Ready to take another few weeks off. Hope everyone has a great holiday season.

I didn't mean to compare you to a spoiled child. That's my bad. They missed some calls, like they always do but we got away with some things also, we just don't tend to notice them. I've seen games where I felt like we got screwed but to me we just got physically whipped in this game. The roughing the passer call was borderline but we still had the chance to hold them to a field goal if our defense wasn't putrid. Good teams overcome bad call is all I'm saying and we simply aren't good this year, especially on defense. I just don't think the SEC suddenly favors Vanderbilt versus us. Anyway I hope you have a great holiday season as well as nobody like seeing us get destroyed in Neyland by Vanderbilt. Again, sorry for the spoiled child comment.

 

[SKV84]

You're a lazy, emotional fan whose understanding doesn't go further than basic strategy. Read the bottom of this article 1000 times until you fully comprehend it. If you don't know how to read, get a grown up to help you.

Hundreds of violations occurred in Tennessee football program over 3 seasons - NCAA.org

Over the course of three seasons, the Tennessee football program committed 18 Level I violations — encompassing more than 200 individual infractions — most of which

www.ncaa.org

When they go 7-5 next year beating no one with a pulse, be sure to bring your articles and graphs back next year. Also...dont forget your excuses.

 

[Garren04]

I mean, I already told you but fine. Here's a colorful chart instead of scary numbers! Maybe this will crack into that thick skull of yours. Remember to wipe your drool.
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Dude stop beating this dead horse it’s not working. Our coach gets paid a lot of money to make tough roster decisions. However, I understand where you are coming from I just don’t think it’s an excuse.

 

[drvenner]

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guesses?

12-0

 

[Weezer]

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Hundreds of violations occurred in Tennessee football program over 3 seasons - NCAA.org

Over the course of three seasons, the Tennessee football program committed 18 Level I violations — encompassing more than 200 individual infractions — most of which

www.ncaa.org

I know this one has a lot of words but just take a break and have some water if you get tired. Read the bottom of this article. Please please try to understand it. Read it slowly and absorb it. When you come across terms you don't understand like "evaluation period", take a second and google what an evaluation period is. Really try to comprehend it man. I'm trying to help you be a better fan. Because as of now you just look like an extremely emotional guy.

It’s amazing. Keep posting this article instead of actually engaging with anyone.

Yes Heupel was initially dealt some restrictions. It is year 5 and that is gone. He’s had top 10 program/NIL buy in. 8-4 in year 5 is unacceptable to 80-90% of fans.

You’re part of the 10-20% who will be ok with mediocrity. Clark Lea had to build from much worse and he spanked our ass.

 

[VolMike16]

Alright, that's it for a few months. Thank you to the emotionally stable fans in here. To the rest of you, remember to put your socks on before your shoes and to color inside the lines.

Go vols!

Thanks! Don't forget your excuses on the way out!