The Sky is Not Falling, but There are Cracks

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

Hat tip to the Commodores; they played a great game. However, I hope that Heupel and Danny White recognize that losing to Vanderbilt in Neyland stadium, especially coupled with the squandered opportunities against UGA, OU, and Bama, is completely unacceptable. There has to be accountability for this loss and this team's inability to make the right plays in the big moments this season.

That being said, what the program needs are tweaks, not wholesale changes. An assistant or two, perhaps a coordinator, need to be replaced. I don't think elaboration is necessary there. This thing is a work in progress, and we have to remember both where we came from recently (the post-Fulmer dark age) and where we come from historically (a top program in college football). Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater...but definitely get rid of that bathwater though it's friggin nasty.

TL;DR version: Someone needs to be fired, but if you think that someone is Heupel you need to put down the bottle and step back from the ledge.

 

[marvin616]

Losing to vandy is unacceptable.

 

[heupelsroutetree]

Hat tip to the Commodores; they played a great game. However, I hope that Heupel and Danny White recognize that losing to Vanderbilt in Neyland stadium, especially coupled with the squandered opportunities against UGA, OU, and Bama, is completely unacceptable. There has to be accountability for this loss and this team's inability to make the right plays in the big moments this season.

That being said, what the program needs are tweaks, not wholesale changes. An assistant or two, perhaps a coordinator, need to be replaced. I don't think elaboration is necessary there. This thing is a work in progress, and we have to remember both where we came from recently (the post-Fulmer dark age) and where we come from historically (a top program in college football). Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater...but definitely get rid of that bathwater though it's friggin nasty.

TL;DR version: Someone needs to be fired, but if you think that someone is Heupel you need to put down the bottle and step back from the ledge.

I remember my middle school aged daughters first period too

 

[mpfvol]

I am out on CJH and staff

 

[connor]

Losing to vandy is unacceptable.

This

 

[utvols74]

Can't beat a SEC team with a winning record. Let that sink in.

 

[Other_Guy]

Losing to vandy is unacceptable.

Losing to a black swan vandy team when you arent having a good year is acceptable. Vandy would've won 7 games and lost to tenn without Pavia winning a stupid lawsuit that never shouldve happened. Think bigger picture (not that the outlook there is much better).

 

[amaralfan1]

This is a good way to put it. Heupel is now where Fulmer was in 2005. Do you fire the weak link coordinator (Randy Saunders) after a seriously down season... Or do you keep him on board and face a second straight subpar season?

Banks has to go. Otherwise tonight was the begining of the end for Heupel.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

Losing to vandy is unacceptable.

If you'll actually read my post, you'll see I used that exact word.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

I know everyone wants to jump on Banks, and rightfully so for this game, but this once feared offense just scored 3 points at home in the 2nd half against Vandy. Not good enough.

 

[VolInNW]

Hat tip to the Commodores; they played a great game. However, I hope that Heupel and Danny White recognize that losing to Vanderbilt in Neyland stadium, especially coupled with the squandered opportunities against UGA, OU, and Bama, is completely unacceptable. There has to be accountability for this loss and this team's inability to make the right plays in the big moments this season.

That being said, what the program needs are tweaks, not wholesale changes. An assistant or two, perhaps a coordinator, need to be replaced. I don't think elaboration is necessary there. This thing is a work in progress, and we have to remember both where we came from recently (the post-Fulmer dark age) and where we come from historically (a top program in college football). Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater...but definitely get rid of that bathwater though it's friggin nasty.

TL;DR version: Someone needs to be fired, but if you think that someone is Heupel you need to put down the bottle and step back from the ledge.

TLDR: Don't do anything now. Let's give this guy another 2-3 years to drive this program into the ditch completely, THEN try and hire a new coach.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

This is a good way to put it. Heupel is now where Fulmer was in 2005. Do you fire the weak link coordinator (Randy Saunders) after a seriously down season... Or do you keep him on board and face a second straight subpar season?

Banks has to go. Otherwise tonight was the begining of the end for Heupel.

I would have to agree.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

I remember my middle school aged daughters first period too

??? Weird

 

[marvin616]

Losing to a black swan vandy team when you arent having a good year is acceptable. Vandy would've won 7 games and lost to tenn without Pavia winning a stupid lawsuit that never shouldve happened. Think bigger picture (not that the outlook there is much better).

I was just giving my tldr version. I don't think much more needs to be said right now.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

Losing those CBs hurt. I also think we need to retool our defensive coaching staff.

 

[vols 30]

I am out on CJH and staff

Not there quite yet, but the needle is heading in the wrong direction.

 

[volgr]

Losing to a black swan vandy team when you arent having a good year is acceptable. Vandy would've won 7 games and lost to tenn without Pavia winning a stupid lawsuit that never shouldve happened. Think bigger picture (not that the outlook there is much better).

How about getting blown out by a Vandy team?

There is no way to spin this. Bad, bad, bad.

 

[marvin616]

If you'll actually read my post, you'll see I used that exact word.

Yes. I said it in fewer words.

 

[Godfatha]

This is a good way to put it. Heupel is now where Fulmer was in 2005. Do you fire the weak link coordinator (Randy Saunders) after a seriously down season... Or do you keep him on board and face a second straight subpar season?

Banks has to go. Otherwise tonight was the begining of the end for Heupel.

Agreed. And next year, with a new QB starting, is far from a sure thing.

 

[LivinginthePast]

Garbage. Unacceptable. This year we didn’t compete with ranked teams.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

TLDR: Don't do anything now. Let's give this guy another 2-3 years to drive this program into the ditch completely, THEN try and hire a new coach.

He's the reason it's out of the ditch right now, hombre. He goes 7-5 next year or 8-4 the next two years, then sure, can his ass.

 

[Mid Tenn Vol]

I don’t want to fire Heup but there are major problems that need to be addressed

 

[GreveHaller]

You lost to vandy. Welcome to the hot seat, f____r. Get your s__t together

 

[DaddyChad]

Losing to vandy is unacceptable.

Losing? We got embarrassed.

This program was on the wrong side of a lot of records tonight. Heads have to roll.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

Garbage. Unacceptable. This year we didn’t compete with ranked teams.

We competed with OU and UGA and should've won those games but choked. I'm not sure which is worse.