Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

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#72,776
RandomUTfan said:
Holy cow. This stuff just gets nuttier and nuttier. Now Gator Raid's, 247's adamant insider, wife has signed up to the 247 board.

One household. Two 247 accounts. Posters over there are getting suspicious.


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I’m here biotches. Choo choo."
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If MITBeaver had a wife. What could have been...
 
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#72,778
RandomUTfan said:
Too many reasons to list but a big part of it is the failure of the educational system to develop childen into productive members of society largely due to self-sabotage. "No Child Left Behind" ect. All things coded as attempts to improve education.

Thus you have Ivy League professors complaining their students are complaining about being assigned entire books to read. No one has ever required them to do that and many never have.

It's parenting problem too, to be sure. Parents today want to shift the responsibility for raising their kids to the educational system. They just want to scroll on their phones in all their spare time so they put their kids in front of screens too. I grew up reading books. I hope you did too. I hope you raised your kids to read. But most parents today expect the school to teach their kids the alphabet! They are so far behind when they show up to kindergarten. Kindergarten teachers are making public requests of parents not to expect them to potty-train their children. That's not a part of their job. They can't change diapers in a classroom and should not have to.
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Much of the problem is endemic to public bureaucracy generally. When something is difficult to measure — and how good an education a school provides is notoriously difficult to measure — the organization focuses on things they CAN measure, and means wind up becoming ends. So since we can measure GPAs and graduation rates, that’s what we focus on. And since funding is tied to student performance on the basis of these metrics, schools have a rational incentive to make them as high as possible, so that’s what they do. The ultimate result is grade inflation, education metrics become increasingly useless as a filtering mechanism, and an overall degradation in the quality of schools. It’s a tragedy, but it was entirely predictable.

This is also at least in part a function of selection effects. Because people who had a formal education were on average more successful than those who didn’t, society decided that guaranteeing a formal education to all would lead to everyone being broadly successful. But the success of many of the people who went to prestigious universities was not a function of the university itself, but rather largely of other variables CORRELATED with university attendance but not a function of university attendance itself. It’s like observing that everyone driving a Mercedes is successful and therefore giving everyone a Mercedes in order that they will all be successful.
 
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#72,783
Happy Thanksgiving again to all of you and all of your families. I possibly might be insane because I'm sitting here on Thanksgiving night after a wonderful visit with my family tearing up because I will never be able to try Mike Leach's legendary gravy.

I mean if they just let him do one thing, and it was the gravy, I bet that was some dang good gravy.

 
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#72,784
RandomUTfan said:
This is why no one can convince me God has no sense of humor. Another Gator's 247 poster:

"I feel like I’m in a cult. This is fun!"
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Now, y'all, and I'm not lying, Mrs. Gator Raid is claiming it's fun to be the wife of a cult leader. This guy's escape plan is going to be so darn interesting to watch. I honestly think he thinks he's predicted everything perfectly and that absolutely everyone else with connections saying it isn't Florida is somehow biased against Florida.
 
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I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving with family. My daughter was in a bad wreck last weekend and had a badly broken wrist. She went to the hospital in M'boro and they transferred her to Vanderbilt Children's hospital. She had surgery to have 2 plates and screws attached to hold her wrist and forearm together properly. Nobody in the wreck was more injured that that, thank the Lord. She is doing better but has a long road of recovery and therapy ahead. Hold you kids and loved ones tight. Let them know how precious they are and never take a single day for granted.
 
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Lane Kiffin is way smarter than anyone gives him credit for IN MY OPINION. After Saturday the narrative will change from "Why would anyone stay at a place with little historic success like Ole Miss when programs that have won titles like Florida and LSU are open?"

To,

"Coaches who are winning where they are prefer to stay there versus taking a shot somewhere that isn't winning. Winning appears to be more about how much you are INVESTED in winning now and less about how many titles your program claims. Auburn."
 
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Glitch said:
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving with family. My daughter was in a bad wreck last weekend and had a badly broken wrist. She went to the hospital in M'boro and they transferred her to Vanderbilt Children's hospital. She had surgery to have 2 plates and screws attached to hold her wrist and forearm together properly. Nobody in the wreck was more injured that that, thank the Lord. She is doing better but has a long road of recovery and therapy ahead. Hold you kids and loved ones tight. Let them know how precious they are and never take a single day for granted.
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It's a great sign that you knew immediately who to thank, my brother. This is always great perspective for all of us. I have complete faith that God will see you and your daughter through it, and somehow all of you will be better for it one day. Maybe it will just be spiritually, but that's all that matters anyway. God bless you and her. I know you will be blessed.
 
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RandomUTfan said:
Lane Kiffin is way smarter than anyone gives him credit for IN MY OPINION. After Saturday the narrative will change from "Why would anyone stay at a place with little historic success like Ole Miss when programs that have won titles like Florida and LSU are open?"

To,

"Coaches who are winning where they are prefer to stay there versus taking a shot somewhere that isn't winning. Winning appears to be more about how much you are INVESTED in winning now and less about how many titles your program claims. Auburn."
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Kiffin may be smart but his ego is too big for it to show. Craves the spotlight. Needs it. Unless he goes on to win multiple NCs, his ego and twitter jabs are how he’ll be remembered.
 
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MarcoVol said:
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This is absolutely NOT what is going on in the Penn State search. You don't go from your media trying to sell fans on keeping the interrim to suddenly you're a huge threat to steal Kalen Deboer away from Alabama where he gets 63 million to fail. I don't know. Maybe he does take that job. But if so why not just stay at Washington? If it's about money I figure Alabama will give him more. If it's about resources if Penn State's are so much better, why couldn't the guy who took Vandy to more bowl games than any of us alive ever remember any previous Vandy coach going to win there with those resources? And why can they no longer hire Vanderbilt's coach away? But they CAN hire Alabama's?
 
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RandomUTfan said:
This is absolutely NOT what is going on in the Penn State search. You don't go from your media trying to sell fans on keeping the interrim to suddenly you're a huge threat to steal Kalen Deboer away from Alabama where he gets 63 million to fail. I don't know. Maybe he does take that job. But if so why not just stay at Washington? If it's about money I figure Alabama will give him more. If it's about resources if Penn State's are so much better, why couldn't the guy who took Vandy to more bowl games than any of us alive ever remember any previous Vandy coach going to win there with those resources? And why can they no longer hire Vanderbilt's coach away? But they CAN hire Alabama's?
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Supposedly not money or resources but his family doesn’t like it there + how negative it gets when they’re not dominating everyone
 
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MarcoVol said:
Kiffin may be smart but his ego is too big for it to show. Craves the spotlight. Needs it. Unless he goes on to win multiple NCs, his ego and twitter jabs are how he’ll be remembered.
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His ego is huge. It's so unusual to see a highly successful coach with a huge ego. Just almost never happens, right? I get what you are saying, back it up. There are 2 SEC schools with championships in their history trying to pry him away from the place he is at which has none. What else does he need to do? Actually win a title? Will that actually mean anything meaningfully different if he doesn't? And I figure if a title is what he cares about the most, he can probably wait for a place that has even more resources and desire to win than OIe Miss to open up. I just don't think any of these open jobs are that.
 
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#72,797
MarcoVol said:
Supposedly not money or resources but his family doesn’t like it there + how negative it gets when they’re not dominating everyone
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You sort of sign up for that, don't you? Where in the country is there a fanbase that doesn't expect to dominate their schedule? I'm not talking about MAC schools. Boise State fans were hella surprised to lose their opener the way they did. I have known several U-Dub fans personally. Not only do they expect to win against most of the teams they play, if you can't beat Washington State, they might just forget about whatever other games you did win.

There's huge pressure on coaches and families unfortunately (and kids don't sign up for this) pretty much anywhere you coach when you are paid so much that the expectations are you are going to do all of those things.

Penn State fans just got James Franklin fired, essentially.
 
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#72,799
RandomUTfan said:
His ego is huge. It's so unusual to see a highly successful coach with a huge ego. Just almost never happens, right? I get what you are saying, back it up. There are 2 SEC schools with championships in their history trying to pry him away from the place he is at which has none. What else does he need to do? Actually win a title? Will that actually mean anything meaningfully different if he doesn't? And I figure if a title is what he cares about the most, he can probably wait for a place that has even more resources and desire to win than OIe Miss to open up. I just don't think any of these open jobs are that.
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Fair or not, until he wins a NC he’ll be the funny coach on twitter and that’s it.

Yes tons of HCs have a huge ego. They all don’t desperately try to stay in the news cycle by incessantly trolling on twitter.
 
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RandomUTfan said:
You sort of sign up for that, don't you? Where in the country is there a fanbase that doesn't expect to dominate their schedule? I'm not talking about MAC schools. Boise State fans were hella surprised to lose their opener the way they did. I have known several U-Dub fans personally. Not only do they expect to win against most of the teams they play, if you can't beat Washington State, they might just forget about whatever other games you did win.

There's huge pressure on coaches and families unfortunately (and kids don't sign up for this) pretty much anywhere you coach when you are paid so much that the expectations are you are going to do all of those things.
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Sure but wouldn’t be the first time someone signed up for something without truly understanding what they were getting themselves into (or getting their family into). Dude has prob had inbred bama fans issuing threats the last 2 years.

Now if he wins the iron bowl and goes to the playoff, I’d guess any talk about him to PSU disappears like it never happened.
 
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