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This will not cost them anything. Anyone in the military it could cost everything for disobeying lawful orders.

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Elissa Slotkin Admits Trump Has Not Issued Illegal Orders to U.S. Military

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) said she was "not aware" that President Donald Trump has issued an illegal order to U.S. Military service members.
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“Our laws are clear, you can refuse illegal orders,” Kelly says in the video.

“You can refuse illegal orders,” Slotkin says in the video.

 
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luthervol said:
lol...He's simply playing word games to mislead the low IQ.....look at who fell for it ^^^

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Coast Guard denies easing ban on swastikas, nooses amid policy backlash

Admiral Kevin Lunday told Newsweek that symbols like swastikas and nooses "remain prohibited" by the USCG.
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“The claims that the U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify swastikas, nooses or other extremist imagery as prohibited symbols are categorically false,” Lunday said.

The statement came in response to a Washington Post report published earlier Thursday, which first revealed that the Coast Guard's revised civil rights manual reclassifies swastikas, nooses and other historically charged imagery as “potentially divisive,” rather than listing them as examples of “hate incidents,” as had been done in the prior 2023 guidance.

The controversy comes as the Coast Guard published its updated civil rights policy, reclassifying certain hate-related imagery as “potentially divisive.” The move comes amid broader efforts by the Trump administration to roll back military guidance related to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).

Anyone who takes the word of a trump appointed official as the ultimate truth and "final word" is an IDIOT.

If you actually look at the words, you'll see that the Washington Post clearly stated "would no longer be classified as hate incidents" which is 100% true.

If you continue to read closely, you will see that Lunday in no way denies that claim.

What the Washington Post reported it true. Simple as that!
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Has anybody reported whether different disciplinary procedures apply to “potentially divisive” and “hate?”
 
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MontyPython said:
So you can predict the future without uncertainty? Impressive. What's the score going to be tonight v. Florida?

Here's the thing... there's a certain percentage of people that actually *want* Trump to be a dictator. You recognize that, right? And you do realize that there are numerous examples of countries that were previously democracies that were taken over by authoritarian dictators, right?

Do you really think that our country is immune to political turmoil? You do remember that little thing called the Civil War, right? What exactly is preventing that from ever happening again?

Here is a list of countries that were once functioning democracies (with competitive elections, parliaments, constitutions guaranteeing rights, etc.) but later experienced a takeover by dictators or authoritarian regimes, often through coups, self-coups (“autogolpes”), or gradual erosion that ended with one-man rule.

| Country | Period as democracy | Dictator / Authoritarian leader | Year of takeover | How democracy ended |
|----------------------|--------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------|------------------|--------------------------------------------------|
| Germany | Weimar Republic (1919–1933) | Adolf Hitler | 1933 | Hitler appointed chancellor, then used Enabling Act after Reichstag fire |
| Italy | Liberal period (1861–1922) | Benito Mussolini | 1922–1925 | March on Rome → gradual fascist consolidation |
| Spain | Second Spanish Republic (1931–1939) | | Francisco Franco | 1936–1939 | Military coup → Spanish Civil War |
| Austria | First Republic (1919–1934) | Engelbert Dollfuss → Kurt Schuschnigg | 1933–1934 | Dollfuss banned parliament, established Austrofascist regime |
| Portugal | First Republic (1910–1926) | António de Oliveira Salazar | 1932–1933 | Military coup in 1926 → Salazar’s “Estado Novo” dictatorship |
| Greece | Post-WWII parliamentary period | Military Junta (Georgios Papadopoulos et al.)| 1967–1974 | Colonels’ coup |
| Chile | 1932–1973 (longest democracy in Latin America) | Augusto Pinochet | 1973 | Military coup against Salvador Allende |
| Uruguay | 1903–1973 | Military-civilian dictatorship (1973–1985) | 1973 | “Self-coup” by President Bordaberry with military support |
| Argentina | Multiple democratic periods (most recently 1916–1930, 1946–1955, 1973–1976, 1983–?) | Jorge Rafael Videla et al. (1976–1983) | 1976 | Military coup (repeated pattern in 20th century) |
| Peru | 1980–1992 | Alberto Fujimori | 1992 | Presidential self-coup (“autogolpe”) – dissolved Congress |
| Turkey | Multi-party period (1950–1980, and again 2002–~2016) | Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (increasingly authoritarian after 2016) | gradual, accelerated 2016–2018 | Purges after 2016 coup attempt → constitutional changes |
| Venezuela | 1958–1999 (“Punto Fijo” democracy) | Hugo Chávez → Nicolás Maduro | gradual 2004–2013+ | Packed courts, closed media, rewritten constitution, rigged elections |
| Hungary | 1990–2010 | Viktor Orbán (illiberal turn after 2010) | gradual 2010–present | Constitutional changes, media capture, electoral manipulation |
| Nicaragua | 1990–2007 | Daniel Ortega | gradual after 2009 | Eliminated term limits, jailed opponents, rigged elections |
| Russia | 1991–1999 (flawed but competitive) | Vladimir Putin | gradual 2000–2008, consolidated 2012+ | Media control, elimination of opposition, constitutional changes |
| Thailand | Multiple democratic periods (most recently 2001–2006, 2011–2014, 2019–2023) | Military juntas (2006, 2014) and Prayut Chan-o-cha | 2006 & 2014 coups | Repeated military coups (1932–present) |
| Egypt | Semi-democratic period 2005–2011 | Abdel Fattah el-Sisi | 2013–2014 | Military coup against elected president Morsi |
| Sudan | Brief democratic periods (1956–1958, 1964–1969, 1985–1989, 2019–2021) | Omar al-Bashir (1989–2019), then military again 2021 | 1989 & 2021 coups | Chronic cycle of military takeovers |
| Myanmar (Burma) | Brief parliamentary period 1948–1962 and partial democracy 2011–2021 | Ne Win (1962), then military junta again 2021 | 1962 & 2021 coups | Military repeatedly seizes power |

### Notes
- Some cases are clear-cut seizures of power (e.g., Pinochet, Franco, Hitler).
- Others are “democratic backsliding” or “competitive authoritarianism” where elections continue but are no longer free and fair (e.g., Venezuela, Hungary, Turkey, Russia).
- A few countries (e.g., South Korea 1961–1987, Indonesia under Suharto 1966–1998, Brazil 1964–1985, Nigeria multiple times) had very short or highly restricted democratic periods before military rule, so they are often not counted as “former democracies.”
- Several Latin American countries (Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia in recent decades) have seen attempted or temporary authoritarian turns but later recovered democracy, so they are borderline.

This is not an exhaustive list, but these are the most commonly cited historical examples of democracies that fell to dictatorship.

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You do realize that having some people that want Trump to be a dictator doesn't make it plausible? We have people that want Karl Marx to come back to life too, and run this country. We have soicialists and terrorists already elected into our governments. And you people drivel over your TDS. Remarkable. There a host of things you will see this country come to. You may very well see a dictatorship one day. It won't be DJT. But if it ever does happen, it we rise out of a first socialist transition. The likelihood that it can happen to the US is slim to none just on the size of the undertaking alone. We will be socialist long before the possibility of being dictatorial.

Name an example of a country the sheer and immense size of the US that lost democratic gov't to dictatorships.
 
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GVF said:
We will be socialist long before the possibility of being dictatorial.
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One could probably make a good argument that we're somewhere in the "complacency to apathy" stage of the Tytler cycle. If we keep going from there it slides to apathy (assuming we aren't actually already there to dependence (which most would consider some form of socialism) to bondage/dictatorship.

To me the wild card in that is tech. It's moving really fast and I just can't figure how that's going to play out with AI/robotics etc.
 
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One could probably make a good argument that we're somewhere in the "complacency to apathy" stage of the Tytler cycle. If we keep going from there it slides to apathy (assuming we aren't actually already there to dependence (which most would consider some form of socialism) to bondage/dictatorship.

To me the wild card in that is tech. It's moving really fast and I just can't figure how that's going to play out with AI/robotics etc.
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AI will end up in the hands of the government too.
 
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GVF said:
You do realize that having some people that want Trump to be a dictator doesn't make it plausible? We have people that want Karl Marx to come back to life too, and run this country. We have soicialists and terrorists already elected into our governments. And you people drivel over your TDS. Remarkable. There a host of things you will see this country come to. You may very well see a dictatorship one day. It won't be DJT. But if it ever does happen, it we rise out of a first socialist transition. The likelihood that it can happen to the US is slim to none just on the size of the undertaking alone. We will be socialist long before the possibility of being dictatorial.

Name an example of a country the sheer and immense size of the US that lost democratic gov't to dictatorships.
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JD Vance likened Trump to Hitler
 
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