President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[hog88]

I think that's true .... but would those reductions in attendance costs be significant enough for a college applicant from a low income family to complete a bachelor's degree without a loan?

They should still be able to get a loan, a prospective master’s degree in nursing with a decent credit history should be a worthwhile credit risk.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

They should still be able to get a loan, a prospective master’s degree in nursing with a decent credit history should be a worthwhile credit risk.

There are reasons why hospitals like Vanderbilt get the most qualified nursing graduates from around the country. They have incentives for helping to pay off student loans. That's amazingly helpful since the exponentially rising costs of attending college

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Pandering to the riff raff. Even at my age I'm surprised at how easily people, especially MAGA, drop their principles to conform to their side's rhetoric.

It's because they measure success by the gotcha events to the other side. There are several here who do it regularly and I know some of them are successful citizens. I would name them but I am on quadruple secret probation

 

[appvol]

TDS is a hoax.

Guess you missed this

 

[luthervol]

I’ll rack this up as a third russled jimmies reply

Day in day out you make ridiculous blatantly stupid hot takes. You’re always called on it. And then you go all coy that people just don’t understand what you’re saying. Everyone replies to you with that stance. But yeah it has to be all of us not you

Yep. It's you man. Let's replay this last one as the prime example.................

Not even sure what to say about that.

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I read the text of the policy as it's no longer classified as a hate incident but as harrasment

That is exactly what the Washington Post said.

Your link wasn't the Wa Po article. It was military times . WaPo article blocked. These items aren't allowed or permitted. Essentially they are getting rid of "hate crime" labeling and calling it harassment. All good in my book.

I know it was the Military Times.....they validated the Washington Post article.

And it is not a change in name only.

And here you come........................what an idiot you are.

Watching you trip over your own idiotic claims and then spend the rest of the day back peddling and obfuscating your own idiotic posts is some of the best clean fun on this board.

Every claim I made was 100% true and accurate and I did not back peddle once.

Let's do this......point out the idiotic claim I made (you can't) and then point out were I back peddled (you can't)

And as you slowly and reluctantly realize you can't, maybe you'll learn a little lesson that serves you well moving forward.
lol....who are we kidding......we know you want.

I guess the lesson I should learn is to post on a 3rd grade comprehension level so you can accurately follow.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yep. It's you man. Let's replay this last one as the prime example.................











And here you come........................what an idiot you are.
Every claim I made was 100% true and accurate and I did not back peddle once.

Let's do this......point out the idiotic claim I made (you can't) and then point out were I back peddled (you can't)

And as you slowly and reluctantly realize you can't, maybe you'll learn a little lesson that serves you well moving forward.
lol....who are we kidding......we know you want.

I guess the lesson I should learn is to post on a 3rd grade comprehension level so you can accurately follow.

Get it all out Luther!

And I can’t wait to hear how Mamdani wanting NYC children learning Arabic numerals ties in with the USCG eliminating hate incidents categories

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yep. It's you man. Let's replay this last one as the prime example.................











And here you come........................what an idiot you are.


Every claim I made was 100% true and accurate and I did not back peddle once.

Let's do this......point out the idiotic claim I made (you can't) and then point out were I back peddled (you can't)

And as you slowly and reluctantly realize you can't, maybe you'll learn a little lesson that serves you well moving forward.
lol....who are we kidding......we know you want.

I guess the lesson I should learn is to post on a 3rd grade comprehension level so you can accurately follow.

BTW I love how you forgot to include this post from Hill with this tweet in your reply. Congrats you played yourself and proved my point. You may go now.

The acting head of USCG completely discredited the WaPo Lede. You just whistled right by that as you played your usually idiocy. Again you may go now.

 

[hog88]

Because of a terrible tragedy, JFK didn't get a second term. If he had it's likely his countrywide support would have wained some in his second term. Not just because of no social media, but because of the reasons you stated due to human nature. Reagan's popularity would have taken more of a hit in his second term had there been social media. Hell, Clinton remained fairly popular without SM in his second term, but he took a hit because his personal character issues were all over the print media and the impeachment. My point is that all the guys I mentioned had policies that worked by their leadership and ability to compromise and do what was best for everyone as a whole. Not catering to the fringes of their party

It was doubtful JFK was going to get a second term. He was pretty much a disaster as a president and his assignation saved his legacy

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

It was doubtful JFK was going to get a second term. He was pretty much a disaster as a president and his assignation saved his legacy

Ok. If you say so

 

[swampfoxfan]

It was doubtful JFK was going to get a second term. He was pretty much a disaster as a president and his assignation saved his legacy

B.S.

John Kennedy was born into wealth like trump, , but he didn't fake bone spurs.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Robert Morris, trumps spiritual advisor, received a 6 month sentence for molestation of a 12 year old girl. Republicans, protectors of pedophiles .
.

 

[volbeast33]

The MAGA acolytes with a double digit handicap will eat this up. He may actually succeed for once with a start-up product.

He succeeds on almost every product. Someone pays him a lot of money to use his name/trademarks.

 

[luthervol]

Get it all out Luther!

And I can’t wait to hear how Mamdani wanting NYC children learning Arabic numerals ties in with the USCG eliminating hate incidents categories

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What's the deal with Arabic numerals?

Edit.....It doesn't. I must have previously clicked the "quote" button on that post.

 

[luthervol]

BTW I love how you forgot to include this post from Hill with this tweet in your reply. Congrats you played yourself and proved my point. You may go now.

The acting head of USCG completely discredited the WaPo Lede. You just whistled right by that as you played your usually idiocy. Again you may go now.

You are looking like an even bigger idiot.

Again, you seem completely unable (or unwilling) to read with comprehension.
That tweet is BS. It was obviously written to mislead gullible, non-thinking trumpers.
The Washington Post said they would no longer be classified as hate symbols....which is 100% true.

Which was supported by the link I provided from the military times. (which is why I posted that particular link to begin with)

Is this where I tell you "you may go now"? ........the 9th grader's attempt at dismissiveness.

Why you unnecessarily started all of this nonsense is beyond me.
It simply makes you look petty and small.........and not very bright.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You are looking like an even bigger idiot.

Again, you seem completely unable (or unwilling) to read with comprehension.
That tweet is BS. It was obviously written to mislead gullible, non-thinking trumpers.
The Washington Post said they would no longer be classified as hate symbols....which is 100% true.

Which was supported by the link I provided from the military times. (which is why I posted that particular link to begin with)

Is this where I tell you "you may go now"? ........the 9th grader's attempt at dismissiveness.

Why you unnecessarily started all of this nonsense is beyond me.
It simply makes you look petty and small.........and not very bright.

You’re full of it. Your “Military Times” article was actually a relink of an AP article. It says so right in the header. Three AP authors.

And the commandant of the USCG called the WaPo claim categorically false. He’s the only one quoted with all this that had any credibility. Do I need to link you a definition of what categorically false means?

Nothing on the claim WaPo claim has been supported and it has been labeled false by the head of the service branch it’s tied to.

Thanks for behaving exactly as I said you do every damn day.

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[luthervol]

You’re full of it. Your “Military Times” article was actually a relink of an AP article. It says so right in the header. Three AP authors.

And the commandant of the USCG called the WaPo claim categorically false. He’s the only one quoted with all this that had any credibility. Do I need to link you a definition of what categorically false means?

Nothing on the claim WaPo claim has been supported and it has been labeled false by the head of the service branch it’s tied to.

Thanks for behaving exactly as I said you do every damn day.

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lol......
I'm going to try and make it simple enough for even you to follow.....read carefully, think, reread, and then respond

Will the symbols continue to be classified as hate symbols?

If you answer yes, you continue to be an increasingly big idiot.

If you answer no, you confirm that the Washington Post was accurate in their reporting and you were an idiot to contend otherwise.

 

[NorthDallas40]

lol......
I'm going to try and make it simple enough for even you to follow.....read carefully, think, reread, and then respond

Will the symbols continue to be classified as hate symbols?

If you answer yes, you continue to be an increasingly big idiot.

If you answer no, you confirm that the Washington Post was accurate in their reporting and you were an idiot to contend otherwise.

The commandant of the USCG says WaPo and you are both full of . That’s the end of it for people with folded brains. Yet we know it won’t be the last of it from you

 

[swampfoxfan]

The commandant of the USCG says WaPo and you are both full of . That’s the end of it for people with folded brains. Yet we know it won’t be the last of it from you

Got your tarriff rebate check yet? Doge check?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Got your tarriff rebate check yet? Doge check?

Nope, you? Do you expect one? I don’t. And can you tell me how that relates to the Commandant of the USCG telling Luther he is FOS?

 

[C-south]

Robert Morris, trumps spiritual advisor, received a 6 month sentence for molestation of a 12 year old girl. Republicans, protectors of pedophiles .
.

We know why you love Southeast Asia.

 

[EasternVol]

Guess you missed this

That's fake news.

 

[MontyPython]

Lol. Yea, you and LG are the standard for impartiality.

Registered Independent, Junior Bubba.

 

[MontyPython]

You know he's not actually a dictator? And never will be? As far gone as this country is, that'd be several generations away from actually being a true concern if we don't pat the brakes on the Squad's of the world.

There should be more of a concern of going the route of Europe's Islam take over, than ever having dictatorial rule in this country.

So you can predict the future without uncertainty? Impressive. What's the score going to be tonight v. Florida?

Here's the thing... there's a certain percentage of people that actually *want* Trump to be a dictator. You recognize that, right? And you do realize that there are numerous examples of countries that were previously democracies that were taken over by authoritarian dictators, right?

Do you really think that our country is immune to political turmoil? You do remember that little thing called the Civil War, right? What exactly is preventing that from ever happening again?

Here is a list of countries that were once functioning democracies (with competitive elections, parliaments, constitutions guaranteeing rights, etc.) but later experienced a takeover by dictators or authoritarian regimes, often through coups, self-coups (“autogolpes”), or gradual erosion that ended with one-man rule.

| Country | Period as democracy | Dictator / Authoritarian leader | Year of takeover | How democracy ended |
|----------------------|--------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------|------------------|--------------------------------------------------|
| Germany | Weimar Republic (1919–1933) | Adolf Hitler | 1933 | Hitler appointed chancellor, then used Enabling Act after Reichstag fire |
| Italy | Liberal period (1861–1922) | Benito Mussolini | 1922–1925 | March on Rome → gradual fascist consolidation |
| Spain | Second Spanish Republic (1931–1939) | | Francisco Franco | 1936–1939 | Military coup → Spanish Civil War |
| Austria | First Republic (1919–1934) | Engelbert Dollfuss → Kurt Schuschnigg | 1933–1934 | Dollfuss banned parliament, established Austrofascist regime |
| Portugal | First Republic (1910–1926) | António de Oliveira Salazar | 1932–1933 | Military coup in 1926 → Salazar’s “Estado Novo” dictatorship |
| Greece | Post-WWII parliamentary period | Military Junta (Georgios Papadopoulos et al.)| 1967–1974 | Colonels’ coup |
| Chile | 1932–1973 (longest democracy in Latin America) | Augusto Pinochet | 1973 | Military coup against Salvador Allende |
| Uruguay | 1903–1973 | Military-civilian dictatorship (1973–1985) | 1973 | “Self-coup” by President Bordaberry with military support |
| Argentina | Multiple democratic periods (most recently 1916–1930, 1946–1955, 1973–1976, 1983–?) | Jorge Rafael Videla et al. (1976–1983) | 1976 | Military coup (repeated pattern in 20th century) |
| Peru | 1980–1992 | Alberto Fujimori | 1992 | Presidential self-coup (“autogolpe”) – dissolved Congress |
| Turkey | Multi-party period (1950–1980, and again 2002–~2016) | Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (increasingly authoritarian after 2016) | gradual, accelerated 2016–2018 | Purges after 2016 coup attempt → constitutional changes |
| Venezuela | 1958–1999 (“Punto Fijo” democracy) | Hugo Chávez → Nicolás Maduro | gradual 2004–2013+ | Packed courts, closed media, rewritten constitution, rigged elections |
| Hungary | 1990–2010 | Viktor Orbán (illiberal turn after 2010) | gradual 2010–present | Constitutional changes, media capture, electoral manipulation |
| Nicaragua | 1990–2007 | Daniel Ortega | gradual after 2009 | Eliminated term limits, jailed opponents, rigged elections |
| Russia | 1991–1999 (flawed but competitive) | Vladimir Putin | gradual 2000–2008, consolidated 2012+ | Media control, elimination of opposition, constitutional changes |
| Thailand | Multiple democratic periods (most recently 2001–2006, 2011–2014, 2019–2023) | Military juntas (2006, 2014) and Prayut Chan-o-cha | 2006 & 2014 coups | Repeated military coups (1932–present) |
| Egypt | Semi-democratic period 2005–2011 | Abdel Fattah el-Sisi | 2013–2014 | Military coup against elected president Morsi |
| Sudan | Brief democratic periods (1956–1958, 1964–1969, 1985–1989, 2019–2021) | Omar al-Bashir (1989–2019), then military again 2021 | 1989 & 2021 coups | Chronic cycle of military takeovers |
| Myanmar (Burma) | Brief parliamentary period 1948–1962 and partial democracy 2011–2021 | Ne Win (1962), then military junta again 2021 | 1962 & 2021 coups | Military repeatedly seizes power |

### Notes
- Some cases are clear-cut seizures of power (e.g., Pinochet, Franco, Hitler).
- Others are “democratic backsliding” or “competitive authoritarianism” where elections continue but are no longer free and fair (e.g., Venezuela, Hungary, Turkey, Russia).
- A few countries (e.g., South Korea 1961–1987, Indonesia under Suharto 1966–1998, Brazil 1964–1985, Nigeria multiple times) had very short or highly restricted democratic periods before military rule, so they are often not counted as “former democracies.”
- Several Latin American countries (Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia in recent decades) have seen attempted or temporary authoritarian turns but later recovered democracy, so they are borderline.

This is not an exhaustive list, but these are the most commonly cited historical examples of democracies that fell to dictatorship.

 

[BowlBrother85]

It was doubtful JFK was going to get a second term. He was pretty much a disaster as a president and his assignation saved his legacy

I wouldn't say it was doubtful at all. For whatever reason, the American public didn't hold JFK responsible for the Bay of Pigs fiasco. As a matter of fact, his approval went up right after it. There are plenty of negative things to say about his presidency, but he had a charming way about him, and he inspired people with positivity. Imagine that. A President who didn't spend all day making threats and attacking people.

JFK's Approval Ratings, 1961-63 / President John F. Kennedy

President John F. Kennedy enjoyed very high public approval ratings compared with most modern presidents. Here's a detailed look at the polls.

historyinpieces.com

.... and what Republican was going to defeat him in 1964? It sure as hell would not have been Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona. LOL.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

He succeeds on almost every product. Someone pays him a lot of money to use his name/trademarks.

Nearly every company he has started from the ground floor has failed. Sorry.