Trump Orders U.S. Military Action Against Terrorist Drug Cartels

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MontyPython said:
Judge, jury and executioner.

This is not only illegal but also morally wrong. Of course, the concepts of morals and ethics are clearly foreign to Dumb Donald and his eminently unqualified hit goon Fox newscaster - now Secretary of "War" - Big Bourbon Hedgseth.
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I am generally in agreement with most things Trump does, but I have a problem here with this. Even if you have hard evidence that the boats have a cargo of drugs is that a death penalty? These are not enemy combat soldiers. We should interdict and then if they resist then all bets are off. Even in the free fire zones in Vietnam , I did not just fire on anything that moved.
 
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MontyPython said:
Judge, jury and executioner.

This is not only illegal but also morally wrong. Of course, the concepts of morals and ethics are clearly foreign to Dumb Donald and his eminently unqualified hit goon Fox newscaster - now Secretary of "War" - Big Bourbon Hedgseth.
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Fine. We will stop attacking drug boats and instead deliver the fentanyl directly to your city. Can I get an address please?

(What kind of monster actually wants more drugs in our communities)? Beyond sick.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I actually wonder if legalizing it would help but then again, I think the key is that these gangs make money off bartering illegal stuff. If it wasn't illegal, they would move onto something else (probably child prostitution which is already something they dabble in anyways).

The mafia made $$$ off bootlegging back during prohibition. When alcohol was made legal, they moved onto other things.
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Legalize fentanyl, a substance so poisonous that contact with the skin can be fatal? What could possibly go wrong?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Fine. We will stop attacking drug boats and instead deliver the fentanyl directly to your city. Can I get an address please?

(What kind of monster actually wants more drugs in our communities)? Beyond sick.
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Here's a revolutionary idea: instead of bombing the boats, we track them. See where they go, who meets them, all that, then arrest the players. That way more of the network's disrupted, people aren't needlessly killed, there's due process, and the drugs don't get to the communities. What's the down side?
 
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EasternVol said:
Here's a revolutionary idea: instead of bombing the boats, we track them. See where they go, who meets them, all that, then arrest the players. That way more of the network's disrupted, people aren't needlessly killed, there's due process, and the drugs don't get to the communities. What's the down side?
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needlessly killed? They are making a choice that directly results in dead Americans. I'm good with sending them to meet Davy Jones.
 
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EasternVol said:
Here's a revolutionary idea: instead of bombing the boats, we track them. See where they go, who meets them, all that, then arrest the players. That way more of the network's disrupted, people aren't needlessly killed, there's due process, and the drugs don't get to the communities. What's the down side?
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We’ve tried that for years and it obviously hasn’t worked. This method provides quite the deterrent .
Also, no need to put our officers in harms way doing missle stiles like happens every time you interdict and board a boat
 
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BeardedVol said:
I don't partake myself, but why do you think people traffic narcotics to the United States?
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Law of Supply and Demand in Economics: How It Works

The law of supply and demand explains how changes in a product's market price relate to its supply and demand. Demand for basic necessities is less responsive.
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So if people want something, it is acceptable to allow it?
I am sure some people would like to reinstate slavery. So since there is supply and demand you would be okay with it? Child labor?
Heck, there is a demand for contract killers. All fair game under your logic I guess?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
So if people want something, it is acceptable to allow it?
I am sure some people would like to reinstate slavery. So since there is supply and demand you would be okay with it? Child labor?
Heck, there is a demand for contract killers. All fair game under your logic I guess?
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His point went way over your head
 
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OrangeTsar said:
So if people want something, it is acceptable to allow it?
I am sure some people would like to reinstate slavery. So since there is supply and demand you would be okay with it? Child labor?
Heck, there is a demand for contract killers. All fair game under your logic I guess?
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Lol, blowing up speedboats in the Caribbean will have zero affect on the flow of narcotics into this country.

Maybe layoff the appeal to emotion by trying to inject slavery and child labor into the discussion.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol, blowing up speedboats in the Caribbean will have zero affect on the flow of narcotics into this country.

Maybe layoff the appeal to emotion by trying to inject slavery and child labor into the discussion.
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I know of around 80 people that won't be on these boats again bringing drugs to this country. I think common sense approach also a factor. You here of boats being blown up and seeing it I don't think that's a job I want. The days of arresting and then getting released are over, that's been tried for years.
 
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LouderVol said:
the issue is that the military tells us after the fact they don't know who is actually on the boat. or even what is actually on the boat. they assume its a cartel with drugs. they also assume its ONLY cartel. the same cartels that do human trafficking. these go on long enough victims are going to show up amongst the dead. or they hit the wrong boat.

they are treating it like war, where collateral damage is acceptable, when it clearly isn't war.

even in Afghanistan where our troops were getting shot at, there were rules of engagement. there are no rules here. no checks in place. and no way to keep anyone accountable.

it also sets an insanely dangerous precedence. China should sit 20 miles off our shores and hit cruise liners and make the same claim they were cartel terrorists. and per the US's own actions, they would be justified to do so. This is one of those things where some MAGA are accepting this because their guy is doing it. but when Obama did it, or if some other nation did it, there would be questions.
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These boats have no state sponsored flag on them. I wish that phony drug guy Maduro would start putting flags on these boats then sit back and watch what happens. It's been called "war on drugs" as long as I've been alive. It really wasn't a war though, but now it is.
 
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I wonder at some point if enough drugs go to Davy jones locker the marketing term “supply and demand” will take effect? Talk about outrages prices.
 
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EasternVol said:
So you have no problem with someone sniping the staff at Phillip Morris in Richmond?
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I guess you had no problem in attacking organizations like ISIS and Al-Qaeda in the past. Is there a difference between them and Tren de Aragua?
 
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TVOLS said:
I know of around 80 people that won't be on these boats again bringing drugs to this country. I think common sense approach also a factor. You here of boats being blown up and seeing it I don't think that's a job I want. The days of arresting and then getting released are over, that's been tried for years.
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Lol, neither you nor anyone in the US government has any clue who was actually in those boats, much less whether any narcotics were on them.

Al this will accomplish is to push our allies not to share intelligence with us, and galvanize the people of latin America against us.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol, neither you nor anyone in the US government has any clue who was actually in those boats, much less whether any narcotics were on them.

Al this will accomplish is to push our allies not to share intelligence with us, and galvanize the people of latin America against us.
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No nation on this planet decides how this country defends itself or our foreign policy.
 
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