Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

I would. You act like we're the only fanbase with crazy fans. We're not. Every coach faces criticism from their fanbase. Even championship coaches. You think Ryan Day and Kirby Smart don't face criticism from portions of their fanbase? Even Saban had his lunatic fringe fans that criticized every call he made. It's not unique to Tennessee. Every coach faces it.

College coaches are mercenaries. They come and they go. I like Heupel, and I hope he stays, but I'm a Vol for life. Whether he's the coach or not, I'll always cheer for the Vols to WIN. After going through Dooley and Butch and he whose name I will not say, it's very easy for me to separate coach from team. I'll cheer for Heupel for as long as he's OUR coach. If he's not OUR coach, then I have no reason to cheer for him.
I freaking hate that portion of our fanbase...straight up HATE...them...and I never said I would cheer for him somewhere else so don't twist what I said...I said "I wouldn't blame him".

You have to be a braindead idiot (which you are not) to not recognize what is about to happen if we lose to Florida and/or Vanderbilt....it is going to be a nightmare.
 
That's his job.
He's damn good at it.
Eh. There's a point that it goes beyond simply representing your clients well and wanders over into something unhealthy. You can't love what he does in one breath and hate what NIL is doing in another, because they are both extreme examples of greed.
 
If I'm Franklin I'd probably be looking for Big 12 or ACC gigs where he could potentially be the best team every year in those conferences. Dude got fired for 3-3 as a 70% winner at Penn State. Another SEC or BIG 10 job might put him right back in the same sort of pressure cooker.

Coach O is just Sam Pittman retread...not sure why Arkansas would wanna go that route. But they also might be stuck having to go that route...

One name we haven't heard yet but I could see for the Hogs emerging is Jason Garrett. If Jerry has any pull, and before folks say "he doesn't wanna coach college" he was the rumored frontrunner for Duke before they hired Elko.
 
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Let’s all be honest here… If Josh is the guy to win a championship at Tennessee, he should be wanting to make those changes himself and not be pushed into them.
🦬💩 maybe he is smart enough to remember that we had a top 5 defense LAST ******* YEAR and doesn't see the need to burn his staff to the ground.
 
Muschamp is in the SEC now at Georgia, has been since USCJr. fired him. Although he stepped back in 2024 to be a defensive analyst instead of co-DC. Not sure why.
Im not sure if the reason is related to his son playing at Baylor in Chattanooga. I know he has been to many practices and games there. Likely couldn't be as involved there if he were still holding the Co-DC role.
 
🦬💩 maybe he is smart enough to remember that we had a top 5 defense LAST ******* YEAR and doesn't see the need to burn his staff to the ground.
I agree to an extent. Going from the top to the bottom in one year isn't healthy. Could you imagine a Bama or UGA defense with a swing that extreme? I can't. From top to mid? Sure.
 
Im not sure if the reason is related to his son playing at Baylor in Chattanooga. I know he has been to many practices and games there. Likely couldn't be as involved there if he were still holding the Co-DC role.

True, he may be waiting until he graduates to get back into a more involved position.
 
If I'm Franklin I'd probably be looking for Big 12 or ACC gigs where he could potentially be the best team every year in those conferences. Dude got fired for 3-3 as a 70% winner at Penn State. Another SEC or BIG 10 job might put him right back in the same sort of pressure cooker.

Coach O is just Sam Pittman retread...not sure why Arkansas would wanna go that route. But they also might be stuck having to go that route...

One name we haven't heard yet but I could see for the Hogs emerging is Jason Garrett. If Jerry has any pull, and before folks say "he doesn't wanna coach college" he was the rumored frontrunner for Duke before they hired Elko.
Every coach with choices should go to the ACC. Big 12 2nd. Easiest path the playoff by far. The sec and the big 10 to a lesser extent is a much harder path. Even at the top, the acc and big 10 aren't great.
 
I agree to an extent. Going from the top to the bottom in one year isn't healthy. Could you imagine a Bama or UGA defense with a swing that extreme? I can't. From top to mid? Sure.
No...I can't imagine that, but I also recognize that we don't have near the roster depth they do yet, especially on defense.

A massive portion of our NIL money for the defense defense went to three CBs that have pretty much contributed absolutely nothing...well nothing in McCoy and Gibsons case, and less than nothing in Boo Carters case except for garbage play and a bad slacker attitude.

We wouldn't have been a top 10 defense agsin with elite DB play from those three...but WE SURE AS HELL wouldn't be last either. A middling defense this year and we are a 1 loss team at worst right now....I think those guys would have made enough plays to change things.
 
This fanbase is capable of exerting extreme pressure...and you know it.
It doesn’t matter DW will make the correct decisions for the fanbase. He won’t make a move if he doesn’t think it is the right one. This isn’t the limp wristed administrations from the past.
 
Interesting comment by an Ole Miss mod on Kiffin's potential exit to Florida. He is either stringing them along rather convincingly or there's serious mutual interest. Either way I think Ole Miss will be fine. Lane's made that a pretty attractive SEC job. If UF misses on Kiffin, who's next?

"If he doesn't go to Florida, the egg-on-face with high-level Florida people will be even more immense than you all realize. You'll be able to laugh for months, and I will give specifics either way when I get more confirmation and can fire away."
If he went to Flo-Rid-A, I could see Golesh to Ole Miss
 
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Disney lost 13 Billion in market cap today after missing earnings predicitions driven largely by a loss of ad revenue on conventional platforms with the pivot towards streaming. Sort of puts a couple of things that have occurred recently in perspective like this desperate push to move YTTV viewers to Disney platforms. I will never pay Disney more than I already do via YTTV. I get that will continue to go up, but I'm not giving a dime directly to Disney.

Another thing occurred to me after it was said the sticking point on this YTTV/Disney carriage dispute is ABC and not ESPN. Some Saturdays ABC has 3 CFB games and those games are usually among the most watched. We have remotes ect. but most people would rather not change the channel if the next game looks interesting. Plus the SEC just gets silly ratings anyway. Disney is trying to maximize the ridiculous value of SEC media rights currently, because they do not expect to be in a position to win them again when it comes time to renegotiate. And the next deal will be HUGE.
Not disputing what you heard but a different source I read said that YTTV was upset that Disney was forcing all of their non sports channels into one bundle Deal. IE…YTTV/Google really wants to dump some of Disney Channel, Nat Geo, Freeform, Disney XD, Disney Junior, etc… and Disney is saying you must take our stinky Bundle and pay us more….
 
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