President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

#47,853
#47,853
OHvol40 said:
Republicans will never “work on a new healthcare plan”. They will only fight what the Dems propose to maintain the status quo.
Click to expand...

Unless the Orange man is going to start going after the medical industry civilly and criminally, its hard to imagine anything other than replacing one scam for another scam. (and I really don't think anyone is ready for that, heck, nobody even today wants to go after the NCAA and the schools for their obvious scams)
 
#47,854
#47,854
OHvol40 said:
Republicans will never “work on a new healthcare plan”. They will only fight what the Dems propose to maintain the status quo.
Click to expand...
That's fair but nobody has worked on a plan since Obamacare in 2010. The Dems haven't proposed anything since then either. The country needs a new plan. That one sucks
 
  • Like
Reactions: USF grad in TN
#47,857
#47,857
hog88 said:
Where's the Dem proposal to replace or fix the ACA? Even most Dems agree that it isn't working.
Click to expand...
The ACA’s purpose was to be a bridge from a multi-payor system to a single-payor system. Again, fought, neutered, and rendered impotent by Republicans at every turn without any alternatives. We all know why, some just don’t want to admit it.
 
#47,858
#47,858
Sea Ray said:
That's fair but nobody has worked on a plan since Obamacare in 2010. The Dems haven't proposed anything since then either. The country needs a new plan. That one sucks
Click to expand...
If it was fostered the way it was designed to, we’d have universal healthcare by now.
 
#47,859
#47,859
OHvol40 said:
The ACA’s purpose was to be a bridge from a multi-payor system to a single-payor system. Again, fought, neutered, and rendered impotent by Republicans at every turn without any alternatives. We all know why, some just don’t want to admit it.
Click to expand...

It was just a scam and they hoped turn it into a bigger scam. Now everyone wants to just replace the original scam with a new scam.

Republicans at every turn without any alternatives
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

What would an "alternative" accomplish? And how would it be accomplished?
 
#47,861
#47,861
OHvol40 said:
If it was fostered the way it was designed to, we’d have universal healthcare by now.
Click to expand...
I don't agree with that but if that's what the Dems want then present the plan and let's debate it

My plan would be involve the ability for people to buy into Medicare and HSAs available for everyone just like IRAs are. I'd also push for coverage across state lines
 
#47,862
#47,862
Sea Ray said:
I don't agree with that but if that's what the Dems want then present the plan and let's debate it

My plan would be involve the ability for people to buy into Medicare and HSAs available for everyone just like IRAs are. I'd also push for coverage across state lines
Click to expand...

The off the book liabilities on medicare alone is somewhere in the $70-100T range.
 
#47,863
#47,863
LSU-SIU said:
It was just a scam and they hoped turn it into a bigger scam. Now everyone wants to just replace the original scam with a new scam.



What would an "alternative" accomplish? And how would it be accomplished?
Click to expand...
I don’t know what the alternative would be, but Republicans have continued to deconstruct it without any alternative for years. Can you find any federal-level conservative that has proposed a comprehensive alternative since 2010?
 
#47,864
#47,864
OHvol40 said:
The ACA’s purpose was to be a bridge from a multi-payor system to a single-payor system. Again, fought, neutered, and rendered impotent by Republicans at every turn without any alternatives. We all know why, some just don’t want to admit it.
Click to expand...
It was fought, neutered and rendered impotent by Republicans because they didn't agree with the law. That's politics. Republicans were powerless to do anything about it in 2010 but when they regained some power they used it to neuter a law they didn't like. That's how our system works
 
#47,866
#47,866
OHvol40 said:
I don’t know what the alternative would be, but Republicans have continued to deconstruct it without any alternative for years. Can you find any federal-level conservative that has proposed a comprehensive alternative since 2010?
Click to expand...
Because what you are asking for is not possible in that context.
 
#47,867
#47,867
OHvol40 said:
I’ve gone over this in other threads recently, long story short it’s inevitably less than what Americans spend per capita now. Do you know how much we spend compared to the rest of the developed world?
Click to expand...
But clearly you can't afford it which is why you are asking for help.
 
#47,868
#47,868
C-south said:
Higher education isn’t what it used to be and the once prestigious universities are no longer thought to automatically produce the brightest. That’s for any college or university nowadays. It’ll only get worse.
Click to expand...
"Higher education isn't what it used to be" .... Absent of any context at all, that is an empty statement.

The importance of higher education is, and has always been, dependent upon the field of work a person is interested in entering and their career goals and financial aspirations.

To make a blanket statement such as "Higher education isn't what it used to be," as though everyone has equal ambitions in life, and fields of study are interchangeable is absurdly over-simplistic.

Quite frankly .... it's what a redneck would say.
 
  • Like
Reactions: swampfoxfan
#47,869
#47,869
Vol8188 said:
I give him credit for thinking outside of the box at times. It means he has some ideas that are major hits and others are major misses
Click to expand...


First, I have a hard time believing that anyone at the level of WH employee or aide would come to him and seriously propose 50 year mortgages. Aside from the fact that its pretty inherently obvious that it would be an incredibly dumb idea (taking an entire lifetime to buy a house and pay insane total interest over the course of it), there is no way anyone brought that to him as a serious idea without first having studied it even a little bit, and understanding the complete ass idea it would be.

So, he either came up with it himself (ugh) or heard it on the fly from some bobblehead.

Second, it reeks of desperation by Trump to deflect from the affordability problems which plague the vast majority of Americans even now, 10 months into his administration. I'm not so silly as to blame Trump for those problems, nor would I expect him to turn things around on a dime.

But right or wrong, the perception is that not only are things not even beginning to turn around when it comes to affordability, but rather that things are actually continuing to go downhill. And for that he (and the GOP) will be blamed in a year.

They have time to fix it and work on the perception. Maybe they will. I personally think $2k tariff rebate checks are rather weak on that point and a tiny band aid on a big problem, but hey, its a year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: USF grad in TN
#47,870
#47,870
LSU-SIU said:
The off the book liabilities on medicare alone is somewhere in the $70-100T range.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure what goes into that number but the entire healthcare industry amounts to about $5T/year , equaling $15K/person. Medicare spends about $18K per beneficiary but these are elderly people who need a tremendous amount of care.
 
#47,872
#47,872
OHvol40 said:
The ACA’s purpose was to be a bridge from a multi-payor system to a single-payor system. Again, fought, neutered, and rendered impotent by Republicans at every turn without any alternatives. We all know why, some just don’t want to admit it.
Click to expand...

So you agree that the whole purpose of the ACA was to fail and force us into a single payer system?
 
  • Like
Reactions: UT_Dutchman, USF grad in TN and NorthDallas40
#47,873
#47,873
Sea Ray said:
I don't agree with that but if that's what the Dems want then present the plan and let's debate it

My plan would be involve the ability for people to buy into Medicare and HSAs available for everyone just like IRAs are. I'd also push for coverage across state lines
Click to expand...
What specifically don’t you agree with?

How would it work if people bought into Medicare, and how would that be better than a universal/single payor system? Would you do away with private insurance? What value would a savings account plan add that would be better than universal care?
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement





Back
Top