Obamacare Survives SCOTUS

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MontyPython said:
Ummm... So where's Donald's plan to replace Obamacare?

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Why replace it, why not just cut it?

People were getting healthcare before, people in need were getting healthcare before.

Again, before ACA insurance was affordable after ACA it's a mortgage payment......... and you and the people who agree with it have chose to die on that hill.

I don't know what the answer is but healthcare is out of control they (healthcare industry, pharma, etc. etc.) are in the pockets of both repubs and dems.........

From the money the insurance carriers charge us, to the bonuses Dr.'s get from pharmaceuticals..... it's corrupt from top to bottom.
 
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MontyPython said:
Ummm... So where's Donald's plan to replace Obamacare?

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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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Some of are old enough to remeber healthcare BEFORE big insurance and government involvement. We could actually afford for a doctor to COME TO OUR HOUSE with a bag and give us a shot or other treatment. We paid him about $10 to $20 and we were done.
In the 70‘s I spent two weeks in the hospital for a ruptured appendix. My parents were able to make affordable payments to get the entire cost paid in about two years.
It is amazing what a nominally regulated free market can do. We haven’t had that in this country in a long time.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Some of are old enough to remeber healthcare BEFORE big insurance and government involvement. We could actually afford for a doctor to COME TO OUR HOUSE with a bag and give us a shot or other treatment. We paid him about $10 to $20 and we were done.
In the 70‘s I spent two weeks in the hospital for a ruptured appendix. My parents were able to make affordable payments to get the entire cost paid in about two years.
It is amazing what a nominally regulated free market can do. We haven’t had that in this country in a long time.
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My parents had a catastrophic insurance plan back in the 70s/80s. As far as I know it was only used once when my little brother had a compound fracture of his right arm and required surgery. Everything else, routine Dr visits, ER visits for broken bones, stitches ext (and there were several of those) was paid in cash.
 
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hog88 said:
My parents had a catastrophic insurance plan back in the 70s/80s. As far as I know it was only used once when my little brother had a compound fracture of his right arm and required surgery. Everything else, routine Dr visits, ER visits for broken bones, stitches ext (and there were several of those) was paid in cash.
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And we didn’t have 20 to 30 percent of each paycheck go to insurance premiums.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
The Unaffordable Care Act was written in a way that deliberately and maliciously deceived, robbed, extorted, and blackmailed the American public.
In other words: You have been Robbed. Deceived, Blackmailed. Extorted. And Defrauded by Jonathan Gruber.


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It wasn't hard to see it coming. When they FORCED people to have insurance, and TAXED them to do so... that was the elephant. But hey, it was the signature legislation of The Chosen One, so how could that be bad, right?
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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This is the part that pisses me of the most. It should anger everyone, even fans of the Bill. Being passed in secret is inexcusable. Probably the least democratic thing that has happened in this country.

There are certainly plenty of worse things our government has done, but it was done openly, in a way that some various check or balance would come into play. But not ACA.

Imagine Trump doing this.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Some of are old enough to remeber healthcare BEFORE big insurance and government involvement. We could actually afford for a doctor to COME TO OUR HOUSE with a bag and give us a shot or other treatment. We paid him about $10 to $20 and we were done.
In the 70‘s I spent two weeks in the hospital for a ruptured appendix. My parents were able to make affordable payments to get the entire cost paid in about two years.
It is amazing what a nominally regulated free market can do. We haven’t had that in this country in a long time.
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My grandfather was one of those doctors making house calls. He graduated medical school in 1926. But I'll also add this...why do we think we need doctors to diagnose the flu or the common cold? How many of those house calls made a medical difference for the patient? We call the doctor way too often in this country
 
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Sea Ray said:
My grandfather was one of those doctors making house calls. He graduated medical school in 1926. But I'll also add this...why do we think we need doctors to diagnose the flu or the common cold? How many of those house calls made a medical difference for the patient? We call the doctor way too often in this country
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Imagine how much the doctor will get called when it's "free"
 
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USF grad in TN said:
www.foxnews.com

NEWT GINGRICH: The simplest way to make American life affordable again

Healthcare costs now consume nearly one-fifth of America's economy, driving the affordability crisis, but Trump's price transparency order offers a proven solution.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Step 1. Live a healthy life
Step 2. Enjoy things in moderation
Step 3. Exercise..just walk.

These don't matter for those unlucky enough to get something at no fault of their own but the reality is most illness is preventable but people are too lazy and/or dumb to prevent it.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Love people crying about Obamacare are also the same ones loving tariffs.
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Where do you stand on those two issues? I and many conservatives don't like tariffs and are rooting for the SC to rule against Trump on that case
 
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