This ESPN/Disney deal sounds like it's getting ugly

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...and isn't going to be resolved any time soon.



Leaked memo from Disney.



Good news for GameDay fans, though.




LMAO at the "leaked" memo from Disney which clearly uses marketing and PR language for what was supposedly was an "internal" document.

"We’ve offered innovative, bespoke programming packages" isn't anything anyone says to coworkers internally during negotiations.

What a crock of crap - possibly AI-written crap at that. If there was any sliver of a chance that I believed Disney, it evaporated when I read that BS PR statement.

I'm not siding with Google either, for the record. But I am not swallowing anything Disney has to peddle either.
 
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All of this is merely an opening salvo for collusion between the network/cable channels and leagues to make college football a pay to watch system. It will take a few years, but we will eventually see the premium match ups (Alabama-Tennessee, Florida-Georgia etc.) marketed as stand-alone pay to watch games. And THAT is when I will either go rogue and figure out how to game the system or do more fishing.
 
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So much for cutting the cord. They draw us in with early savings then gradually increase the prices to cable levels or beyond. The old frog in the pot scenario. I've been saying it for a while. The next step will be to make everything PPV. It's why I've been slowly but surely building my book library. It's coming. I can feel it.
Can’t speak for direct, but I am a Spectrum Employee and when your bill starts going up, all you have to do is come into the store and talk to us and we can work a way down for you. I do it every day.

Probably going to be a lot more spectrum customers in the near future with the Cox communications and Charter merger also.
 
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You can stream every UT game on youtube free. I do. We don't watch network TV so we have streaming subscriptions which are split between extended family members by household and shared ...and I stream all the VOLS games for free.

I pay for Netflix and amazon. Moms house pays for Disney plus and Hulu etc. I can stream from pretty much every service and never miss a VOLS game. I spend less than $40 a month and get free shipping on anything I order from amazon as a member like most folks do. Network news is literally a life ruining cancer...and network programs are pretty much garbage compared to streaming AND have commercials which suck now that I am spoiled like everyone else. Paying $80 to $100 a month is crazy like a cable bill/satellite bill and not necessary if you are strategic. Each streaming service allows like 4 connections at a time. I have never once tried to use a shared service and been unable to. Never. Ever.
 
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All of this is merely an opening salvo for collusion between the network/cable channels and leagues to make college football a pay to watch system. It will take a few years, but we will eventually see the premium match ups (Alabama-Tennessee, Florida-Georgia etc.) marketed as stand-alone pay to watch games. And THAT is when I will either go rogue and figure out how to game the system or do more fishing.
Yep...they're in it together. Just another network scam to get viewers revved up & place the blame in the wrong places.
 
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it's really not hard. if Disney wins this battle you're YTTV price will jump again. at least they are trying to look out for customers.
This. When I first started yttv, it was, I think $59.99 a month. And it has risen every year since. Because of greedy companies like Disney trying to bleed every penny they can and creating monopolies.
 
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I canceled youtube, only had it for football. We got the espn app for $29, haven't even tried it yet, but I'll see tomorrow.
Good luck trying to jump back and forth to replay. I watched the Lady Vols last night and got frustrated that the default skip setting is 30 seconds. For some reason, every time I tried to catch up to live, it would go past the live tic and send me back to where it took me from rewind.

It’s not nearly as good as YTTV’s interface.
 
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I have used Sling's one day pass every Saturday this season for $5.99. I like it.

We only stream Netflix, Hulu, Disney, Max; the stuff we actually watch. All the packages that include ESPN are not very different than a cable subscription. Not ever doing that again.
I thought about Sling but 10 weeks a year and I'd be paying twice as much as the espn ultimate.
Same except I also pay for the NFL Redzone package. Who wants to go back to cable? It's possibly cheaper now.
I don't want cable, but I never had to deal with this when we had FiTV. Seriously looking at going back to that. But I would really miss YouTube TV. I can watch anything at work on my desktop with YouTube TV. That's handy.
Good luck trying to jump back and forth to replay. I watched the Lady Vols last night and got frustrated that the default skip setting is 30 seconds. For some reason, every time I tried to catch up to live, it would go past the live tic and send me back to where it took me from rewind.

It’s not nearly as good as YTTV’s interface.
Thank you for this. That's something else to consider.
 
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All of this is merely an opening salvo for collusion between the network/cable channels and leagues to make college football a pay to watch system. It will take a few years, but we will eventually see the premium match ups (Alabama-Tennessee, Florida-Georgia etc.) marketed as stand-alone pay to watch games. And THAT is when I will either go rogue and figure out how to game the system or do more fishing.
Was it really so bad when radio was only access to the games? Dumb question, I know but seems that’s direction we’re heading
 
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I thought about Sling but 10 weeks a year and I'd be paying twice as much as the espn ultimate.

I don't want cable, but I never had to deal with this when we had FiTV. Seriously looking at going back to that. But I would really miss YouTube TV. I can watch anything at work on my desktop with YouTube TV. That's handy.

Thank you for this. That's something else to consider.
What is FiTV?
 
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I’m considering dropping YouTubeTV as well. It’s exhausting trying to sift through all the streaming war stuff. When it comes down to it with YouTube, my wife and I really only watch a couple network shows, I watch sports and she likes HGTV. That’s it. Not worth $85 a month. I’ll probably end up getting an antenna and find a cheaper option for the HGTV.
 
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Disney has miscalculated. YouTube has said it will give customers a $20 discount, and I just signed up for the ESPN app universal for $29. It would seem like Disney has made a profit, but what they don't realize is that when the regular basketball season is over I will drop it. They will lose all spring and summer. There's a lot of reasons to dislike Disney, this is just one more.
 
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...and isn't going to be resolved any time soon.



Leaked memo from Disney.



Good news for GameDay fans, though.



They can have college game day & Mcafee what a DA, IMO it is a nuanced show that is about as meaningless as a Jerry Springer show. I know there are these Saban fanatics that just tune in and sit on the edge of their seat to hear him say "Rat Poison" but it is all just fluff IMO.
 
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You can stream every UT game on youtube free. I do. We don't watch network TV so we have streaming subscriptions which are split between extended family members by household and shared ...and I stream all the VOLS games for free.

I pay for Netflix and amazon. Moms house pays for Disney plus and Hulu etc. I can stream from pretty much every service and never miss a VOLS game. I spend less than $40 a month and get free shipping on anything I order from amazon as a member like most folks do. Network news is literally a life ruining cancer...and network programs are pretty much garbage compared to streaming AND have commercials which suck now that I am spoiled like everyone else. Paying $80 to $100 a month is crazy like a cable bill/satellite bill and not necessary if you are strategic. Each streaming service allows like 4 connections at a time. I have never once tried to use a shared service and been unable to. Never. Ever.
You aren’t getting the games for free. You’re paying for a service like everyone else, just splitting the cost across multiple platforms & family members.
 
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Luckily for me, I had already convinced myself that the games were rigged. This allowed me to go do other things on Sat. I’d watch if I was home but not whole games, even Tenn. NIL, terrible officiating, high prices to go to games, and now continued price hikes for tv (yes my YTTV bill went up 3 times in 15 months) has ruined what was once a great sport. Even regular YouTube has pasted commercials on everything, unless you pay. What a common theme. I live in a valley so no antenna will pick up anything here.
I actually hope every cable and streaming service would all have a contract dispute at the same time. We would learn quickly that we can do without them. As someone posted above, Vanguard owns everything, so it doesn’t matter who you side with.
 
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I pay $115.00 a month with spectrum for TV

YT is $82.00 a month? Or close to it.


Is $33.00 more a month too much? I gladly pay it knowing I never have to worry about this crap
I've had Charter/Spectrum for years....Actually 2 years ago they had a dispute with Disney/ESPN.....Those channels went off the air on Friday of Labor Day weekend (the biggest college football weekend of the year). It stayed off for 2 weeks until a settlement was reached....My son had the same issue with his Direct TV last year...other devices have too like YTTV. Sooner or later it gets everybody...
 

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