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Ouch. Around the 5 minute mark Hubbs lays a lot of blame on the coaches for the Boo Carter situation.

Of course
Our local media coming in with an Outside perspective thinking they would have done it better
Color me surprised

Yet they only know what they can put together with the crumbs they get

I wish we had a saban type coach that would tell
Them to STFU

Enemy’s of the state need to be removed

They have never been put in their place and that’s badly needed here
 
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November 8, 2003
Vols - 10
;Canes - 6



Tennessee knocked Miami out of the national championship picture Saturday for the first time in four years.

Derrick Tinsley scored on fourth down and the No. 18 Volunteers upset the sixth-ranked Hurricanes 10-6, ending the nation's longest home-winning streak at 26 games.
The Hurricanes failed to score a touchdown at home for the first time since 1984. It also was the first time since a 47-0 drubbing at Florida State in 1997 that Miami (7-2) failed to scored a touchdown in any game. And they looked bad doing it.

Brock Berlin threw two interceptions and fumbled once -- and probably lost his starting job for the rest of the season. The Hurricanes also had 12 penalties for 121 yards, including a key one that helped Tennessee (7-2) score its only touchdown.

Tennessee (7-2) capitalized on just about all of Miami's mistakes -- much like Virginia Tech did last week in snapping the Hurricanes' 39-game regular-season winning streak.
Kevin Simon intercepted a pass from Berlin on the first play of the second quarter, and James Wilhoit kicked a 41-yard field goal five plays later to tie the game at 3.
The Volunteers made it 10-3 just before the half with a 15-play drive that took more than nine minutes.

The Hurricanes, widely considered on of college football's most undisciplined teams, was penalized 15 yards for roughing the punter to keep the drive alive. Tennessee picked up another 15 yards on a personal foul after an incomplete pass on second-and-12.

Instead of facing third down, the Vols were in field-goal range. On the ensuing play, Vince Wilfork jumped off sides for the second time in the game. After five consecutive runs and then a timeout, coach Phillip Fulmer decided to go for it on fourth-and-goal from the 2. Receiver Derrick Tinsley scored on an end around, and the Vols led 10-3.

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Of course
Our local media coming in with an Outside perspective thinking they would have done it better
Color me surprised

Yet they only know what they can put together with the crumbs they get

I wish we had a saban type coach that would tell
Them to STFU

Enemy’s of the state need to be removed

They have never been put in their place and that’s badly needed here
Have you ever considered that is exactly what they want? Like a spoiled brat, all the nonsense is for clicks, and attention.
 
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Think the argument of Heupel ceiling is based on recency bias. This team isnt very talented, esp on back end on defense. How that happened, no idea.

Another factor that gets lost in noise, is .739 winning pctge. Plug all that in.

One factor we arent including, is modifications to his offense. Willingness to modify, or adapt. Teams had schemed his offense. People are down on him, bc of the defense. Yes that's his hat to wear, also.

But, if you've been out in the dark, cold weather for 15 years (cold ass syndrome) it gives you a massive appreciation, and understanding for right here right now.

Before I rant about my point. Let's not forget that 5 years ago, we werent even competitive with:

1. UGA
2. Florduh
3. Bammer
4. Oklahoma

Now we have a shot at beating them, on the reg.

This is a crucial finale for Heup. I think it's gonna be a tough slog. People are talking 9-3, lol. I think that would be very impressive with this team. 7-5 is going to be hard to justify.

This program, the amount of resources, a preferable schedule, top offense. Never going to be easier. So, I get where people are coming from.

One other thing to consider is that Head Coaching situations right now, arent sustainable. Demand far out weighs supply. Programs are throwing around obscene amounts of money, like single use plastics, for what? 10 wins, 11 wins and a shot at the playoffs?

Ive said this 1000 times, and Ill say it again. Of we dont appreciate where we were, and where we are NOW. Another program will gladly take Josh Heuepel, and his top offense off our hands. Stadium is full, bellies are full, coffers arw full. I dunno what people need to do other than enjoy this for what it is.

it is always more difficult to take the step to elite, than it is to slide back into oblivion.

I dont want to go back there.
Not sure it's fair to say they aren't talented. They certainly are young and inexperienced though. I don't think we assign enough importance to experience, and much more to recruiting ranking. Both matter, but I'd argue that experience trumps...Vandy is proving that.
 
Not sure it's fair to say they aren't talented. They certainly are young and inexperienced though. I don't think we assign enough importance to experience, and much more to recruiting ranking. Both matter, but I'd argue that experience trumps...Vandy is proving that.
Think having an early porthole plan, and HS recruiting are absolutely paramount. We unequivocally fumbled the porthole on the 1 yard line.
 
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