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LSU-SIU said:
From what I tell, only two Presidents haven't issued pardons. I don't think people ever said Biden didn't have the power to pardon, in hindsight, its very possible he never pardon anyone.

The issue people had with Biden is he did what all the sky screamers said Trump 1 would do, and the whole media saying he would never do it.
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You being incapable or judging Trump's actions on their own merits is your own personal failing to deal with.
 
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BeardedVol said:
You being incapable or judging Trump's actions on their own merits is your own personal failing to deal with.
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You are not capable of acknowledging what I write. I actually post many times my disagreements as to what he has done.

You can either choose to help yourself or not, not much I can do there.

Nobody ever claimed Biden or any President couldn't pardon, the whole point from the pov of what happen is Biden did exactly what they claimed Trump would do in his first term. The scary part, he really needed to do it because of the lawfare that came next which was just the extension that happened in 2015-2020.

Trump's mistake is not throwing all the people you voted for in jail and for good reason i.e. treason, murder, etc. during his first term.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Lol. At least they are real criminals!! So desperate to defend Trump at any cost. Amazing.
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I disagree with his foreign policy, most of the domestic stuff is pretty much on the mark and I would say things are actually healing slowly. I'm not sure what the problem is to be honest.

It is very unlikely that Trump will save this country medium and long term in its present form.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You are not capable of acknowledging what I write. I actually post many times my disagreements as to what he has done.

You can either choose to help yourself or not, not much I can do there.

Nobody ever claimed Biden or any President couldn't pardon, the whole point from the pov of what happen is Biden did exactly what they claimed Trump would do in his first term. The scary part, he really needed to do it because of the lawfare that came next which was just the extension that happened in 2015-2020.

Trump's mistake is not throwing all the people you voted for in jail and for good reason i.e. treason, murder, etc.
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If your response to Trump pardoning another corrupt Republican politician has "Biden" anywhere in it, then there's really nothing to address.
 
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BeardedVol said:
If your response to Trump pardoning another corrupt Republican politician has "Biden" anywhere in it, then there's really nothing to address.
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Well, that is the context you put in your post. You were saying, "Biden" to put it in context. What do you think, they simply pardon "innocent" people? By accepting the pardon, one is accepting the guilt.

The President has to believe a crime was committed, if one uses the pardon that person is accepting the guilt. There are no innocent people that can use a pardon.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Well, that is the context you put in your post. You were saying, "Biden" to put it in context. What do you think, they simply pardon "innocent" people? By accepting the pardon, one is accepting the guilt.
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There is nothing about Trump pardoning Glen Casada that can be contextualized by anything Biden did or didn't do.

Again, being incapable of judging Trump's actions on their own merits, is a 'you' problem.
 
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BeardedVol said:
There is nothing about Trump pardoning Glen Casada that can be contextualized by anything Biden did or didn't do.

Again, being incapable of judging Trump's actions on their own merits, is a 'you' problem.
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But you put in the context by saying it wasn't part of the context. You didn't need to mention him, but you did. Basically, you setup a strawman.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
But you put in the context by saying it wasn't part of the context. You didn't need to mention him, but you did. Basically, you setup a strawman.
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You don't seem to know what a strawman fallacy actually entails.

If your only response, which so far has been, is to try to inject Biden into the discussion, then there's really nothing to discuss.

Feel free to to post your argument for why you support Trump pardoning Glen Casada, without mentioning Biden's (or any other president's) pardons.
 
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BeardedVol said:
You don't seem to know what a strawman fallacy actually entails.

If your only response, which so far has been, is to try to inject Biden into the discussion, then there's really nothing to discuss.

Feel free to to post your argument for why you support Trump pardoning Glen Casada, without mentioning Biden's (or any other president's) pardons.
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What you tried to do is a classic strawman. You setup that people for some reason had issues with Biden issuing pardons the way he did or if he did. Nobody is claiming that, the issue people had is this is what the people you voted for said Trump would do during his first term.


Feel free to to post your argument for why you support Trump pardoning Glen Casada, without mentioning Biden's (or any other president's) pardons.
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That is a power he has - all of them are guilty. Hunter is guilty, his sister is guilty... how do I know? Biden issued a pardon, they are clearly a crime family.

I would say pardoning is clearly a political tool.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That is a power he has - all of them are guilty. Hunter is guilty, his sister is guilty... how do I know? Biden issued a pardon, they are clearly a crime family.

I would say pardoning is clearly a political tool.
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Lol, you just can't bring yourself to do it can you?
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Well that's just great for the stock market class, but there is not much going on for 50% who don't/can't afford that pleasure.

Like many I'm concerned about snap recipients being cut off, when the money is available. What's more concerning is why do so many Americans have to rely on snap.
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I agree 100 percent with your last two. I've been helping out some people in our town who can't eat by donations and working at Salvation Army places
 
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