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vols 30 said:
Colorado? Seriously?
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You asked: "What makes you believe they won't win under Weiss?"

I gave you the one data point that shows the answer to that question. He is 283–365 for a .437 win %. There are other reasons but those are the hard numbers.

Perhaps you should rephrase your question?
 
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BigOrange15 said:
You asked: "What makes you believe they won't win under Weiss?"

I gave you the one data point that shows the answer to that question. He is 283–365 for a .437 win %. There are other reasons but those are the hard numbers.

Perhaps you should rephrase your question?
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Perhaps you should give the long list of successful Colorado managers. It shouldn't take long
 
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vols 30 said:
Perhaps you should give the long list of successful Colorado managers. It shouldn't take long
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I think you answered your own question. There really haven't been any super successful managers from Colorado. So why should we expect Weiss to be any different?
 
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GAVol said:
A little, but it’s hard to label a guy that loses in dysfunctional places like Pittsburgh, Miami, Colorado etc.
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Oh, I agree. However, currently I think we are also dysfunctional so it doesn't give me any more confidence that he could win here either.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Oh, I agree. However, currently I think we are also dysfunctional so it doesn't give me any more confidence that he could win here either.
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The Braves aren't dysfunctional on anything approaching the level of Colorado.

Even if Weiss had been really successful in Colorado, I wouldn't think he was anywhere close to the best choice for manager in Atlanta.
 
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05_never_again said:
The Braves aren't dysfunctional on anything approaching the level of Colorado.

Even if Weiss had been really successful in Colorado, I wouldn't think he was anywhere close to the best choice for manager in Atlanta.
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No doubt. Few franchises are.
 
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GAVol said:
A little, but it’s hard to label a guy that loses in dysfunctional places like Pittsburgh, Miami, Colorado etc.
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I actually don't care about the record. AJ Hinch was considered a disaster in Arizona and now he's the best manager in baseball.

I like what I heard from the press conference from Walt and his answers seemed genuine. But it's hard to believe when he was the manager's bench coach for 8 years and 90% of the time the decision was based on "gut"
 
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zjcvols said:
I actually don't care about the record. AJ Hinch was considered a disaster in Arizona and now he's the best manager in baseball.

I like what I heard from the press conference from Walt and his answers seemed genuine. But it's hard to believe when he was the manager's bench coach for 8 years and 90% of the time the decision was based on "gut"
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One thing I like is that he spent a lot of years playing for Tony LaRussa. I think LaRussa may be the first manager I ever saw looking at a laptop in the dugout.

I get not liking the hire, but honestly, he’s a baseball manager. Be relatable in the clubhouse, have your players backs, consult with people on the lineup and pitching and don’t get caught picking your nose in the dugout.
 
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Tbh, my main issue is that it gives the appearance of us just phoning it and going with what is comfortable/easy instead of making the actual best hire...and it took us a month to do that? That is just on top of his record.
Could he succeed? Sure and I certainly hope he does but I simply think its unlikely.
 
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