I'd play George MacIntyre

[volfan102455]

That's exactly where you're wrong. IT IS playoff or bust.

No it is not - that mentality is that if we lose the first 3 games of the year, then let's just go crazy with trying whatever so we'll lose all 12.

 

[volfan102455]

Why tank the rest of the season when a 9-3 finish is possible...we're not winning vs Florida or Vandy with Mac at Qb if Heupel makes the swap and we lose those games by alot y'all will be the same people ready to fire him...y'all are acting like Joey is trash...

Agree - don't get the idea that we should sacrifice what could be a 9-3 season. Because with GM, we definitely end up 7-5 and the next game probably is too close for comfort.

 

[volfan102455]

Next year will be another rebuilding year with breaking in a new QB. Would be good to see some preparation for next year. This season has turned out to be a stinker, with us only beating barely the worst of the SEC and losing to any decent team we face

A lot of teams replace QB's and don't miss a beat. If the QB's need practice time to become good, then they are probably not really that good.

 

[volfan102455]

You owe it to the team you have to play the best players you have now. You never “play for the future” in college football. You don’t get an extra 5 star recruit by tanking.

This! And you don't get good players from the portal when they realize once the playoffs are out of the picture, they are going to get benched even when they won the starting job and are the best option.

 

[volfan102455]

I swear, I think some of our fans deserve to have to suffer through back to back 0-12 seasons.

But I don't want that and don't want to wish that on the reasonable fans who don't go off the deep end.

 

[EricFreakingBerry]

9-3 seasons only feel disappointing because of how things have been with Heupel here. We'd have burned an entire couch factory in the streets celebrating this type of success under some previous regimes.

Granted, if we end up 7-5, I'll probably wish we gave GMac more reps. But finishing 9-3 or even 8-4 keeps this boat stable until we can hopefully bounce back with the incoming class and some timely portal additions.

Plus, Heupel needs to attend a seminar on clock management. Even an online course brushing up on the basics would be helpful.

 

[JMSqb11]

NEGAVOLS???
YOU suggested giving up on the season. Because well there's really nothing to play for. GTFOH

I'm not giving up on anything. I'm taking a realistic and objective stance that there is nothing of value to play for over the final 3 games of significance that can keep Heupel from having warming seat next year if things get shaky.

However if we are going to start playing the future here in multiple positions, might as well do it with the QB's who could very well be here.

And the one thing no wants to admit is they think that Josh Heupel is incapable of a highly touted 4/5 star QB room getting ready to start with 3 weeks of practice time and a CUSA opponent.

Like the reaction is "you are giving up by doing this".... Why do you guys think we stand no chance to win? The only answer is you think Heupel is incapable of getting a QB room made up of highly recruited guys ready to play with 3 weeks lead time.

So yes, you are a NEGAVOL. Just admit it.

 

[JMSqb11]

Then when we lose at Florida and against Vandy - you and the others who think this is a good idea would be the first to complain that we lost because we played GM and shift to the fire all the coaches because they were stupid enough to play the backup.

And you do realize that would send a message to any future QB at Tennessee - once the playoff dream is over, so is your time to play. If I am in the portal - I am not considering Tennessee.

No one is expecting Merk or Mac to come in and light those teams up. but it will give Heupel a good idea (along with fans) if he needs to go portal shopping in the offseason for QB.

Answer me this - if we lose with Joey playing and finish 7-5, what good does it do us when we could have gotten reps for the guys that will be here next year? There is zilch left to play for that somehow is more important or outweighs turn the page on this season and getting a start on next year.

And you do realize that Heupel's job is the long term health of the program. Him using the final 3-4 games of a season that has zero preseason goals in reach (Didn't contend for Atlanta, Didn't contend for CFP, Didn't have winning record vs Rivals) and choosing to start the QB competition with live reps is hardly a bad idea.

If either show flashes, it gives people something to get excited about.

There is no difference is going 9-3 or 7-5 with Joey if our QB play next year is shaky early on. If we have another mid season like this year, no one is going to be saying "well we just had to keep the young guys riding the bench because it would have hurt feelings"

 

[vols40]

I'm not giving up on anything. I'm taking a realistic and objective stance that there is nothing of value to play for over the final 3 games of significance that can keep Heupel from having warming seat next year if things get shaky.

However if we are going to start playing the future here in multiple positions, might as well do it with the QB's who could very well be here.

And the one thing no wants to admit is they think that Josh Heupel is incapable of a highly touted 4/5 star QB room getting ready to start with 3 weeks of practice time and a CUSA opponent.

Like the reaction is "you are giving up by doing this".... Why do you guys think we stand no chance to win? The only answer is you think Heupel is incapable of getting a QB room made up of highly recruited guys ready to play with 3 weeks lead time.

So yes, you are a NEGAVOL. Just admit it.

Your words not mine..

 

[JMSqb11]

Your words not mine..

Saying there is nothing of significance for 9-3 is not giving up.

Playing for the future is not giving up.

A coach who could have a warm seat next year needs to do everything possible to ensure the team is ready to roll in week 1 is not giving up.

This isn’t hard to understand.

 

[vols40]

Saying there is nothing of significance for 9-3 is not giving up.

Playing for the future is not giving up.

A coach who could have a warm seat next year needs to do everything possible to ensure the team is ready to roll in week 1 is not giving up.

This isn’t hard to understand.

Only a troll would think JH is on the hot seat. The bet still stands if JH starts Merk or Mac in any of these games (outside of injuries) I will stop posting on here. If you believed your drivel you would take the bet.

 

[GAVol]

Saying there is nothing of significance for 9-3 is not giving up.

Playing for the future is not giving up.

A coach who could have a warm seat next year needs to do everything possible to ensure the team is ready to roll in week 1 is not giving up.

This isn’t hard to understand.

Seems to me that you risk losing the locker room, the culture and providing lighter fluid for negative recruiting.

 

[JMSqb11]

Only a troll would think JH is on the hot seat. The bet still stands if JH starts Merk or Mac in any of these games (outside of injuries) I will stop posting on here. If you believed your drivel you would take the bet.

Once again you struggle with reading comprehension. No one said Hype’s seat is hot.


If we are 6-3 or similar record at this time a year from now with shaky QB play, Heupel’s seat will be warm. If only there was a way to completely avoid that situation.

i can get the crayons out to spell it out for you if that would work better

 

[JMSqb11]

Seems to me that you risk losing the locker room, the culture and providing lighter fluid for negative recruiting.

The locker room is 2/3 underclassmen. The controversy of playing younger guys who are the future of the program is overblown.

Even then, Hype is the $9m coach. He needs to learn to make the tough decisions. It called maturation.

 

[GAVol]

The locker room is 2/3 underclassmen. The controversy of playing younger guys who are the future of the program is overblown

It also almost never happens. It’s mostly fan fantasy unless the season falls off a cliff.

 

[zjcvols]

It also almost never happens. It’s mostly fan fantasy unless the season falls off a cliff.

I hate when people treat college sports like it's the pros. There is literally no benefit to losing. There is no benefit to going 7-5 just to get reps for a QB. If you put in the backup because you quit on the season, then why would they play hard? Guys hurting will sit out. Then your HC is 7-5, negative recruiting sets in. It's so dumb.

 

[vols40]

Once again you struggle with reading comprehension. No one said Hype’s seat is hot.


If we are 6-3 or similar record at this time a year from now with shaky QB play, Heupel’s seat will be warm. If only there was a way to completely avoid that situation.

i can get the crayons out to spell it out for you if that would work better

There is no writing utensil that can coherently convey the stupid of starting a freshman in any of the remaining games this season. You started a whole different thread about Florida and Vandy meaning something... Nathan Peterman says hello

 

[JMSqb11]

There is no writing utensil that can coherently convey the stupid of starting a freshman in any of the remaining games this season. You started a whole different thread about Florida and Vandy meaning something... Nathan Peterman says hello

Nate Peterman has zero to do with this conversation nor has any relevancy. Apparently you will try to deflect and dance your way around admitting you don't think Heupel is capable of getting a 4 or 5 star QB prepared to start with 3 weeks of practice and a game against a 3 win CUSA team.

Just say it. I'm not sure why you are hating on Heupel.

 

[zjcvols]

Saying there is nothing of significance for 9-3 is not giving up.

Playing for the future is not giving up.

A coach who could have a warm seat next year needs to do everything possible to ensure the team is ready to roll in week 1 is not giving up.

This isn’t hard to understand.

The first team out of the playoffs last year was 9-3. While very small, there is still a chance if Tennessee wins out, they can make the playoffs. Throwing in the towel so a true freshman can get reps for next year is a terrible idea and how apathy sets in a program.

 

[Peradox1K]

Once again you struggle with reading comprehension. No one said Hype’s seat is hot.


If we are 6-3 or similar record at this time a year from now with shaky QB play, Heupel’s seat will be warm. If only there was a way to completely avoid that situation.

i can get the crayons out to spell it out for you if that would work better

You literally did! No way you are a real Vols fan. Let's see...
I need @LegionnaireOfTheMiserable's opinion. A troll, or no?

 

[JMSqb11]

The first team out of the playoffs last year was 9-3. While very small, there is still a chance if Tennessee wins out, they can make the playoffs. Throwing in the towel so a true freshman can get reps for next year is a terrible idea and how apathy sets in a program.

A 3 loss team isn't contending for a national title bud. Tennessee has zero shot at making the playoff nor should anyone expect that.

In regards to apathy, going into the offseason with no idea on how the most important position on the team is going to shake out is going to cause hella uncertainty and dread.

If we are in the same position this time a year from now, I'm sure everyone is going to be saying they are happy with the idea of not seeing what these guys were made of with live reps this year.

That sir is how apathy sets in. If they show flashes, Heupel has something to look forward too all off season. Similar to how Nico played in the bowl game. And for the record, I was saying the exact same thing 2 years ago after we lost to Bama. Sit Milton and play NIco the rest of the way because he is a 5 star and he is the future for the 2024 season. We could have found out a lot of his issues much sooner and adjusted.

 

[JMSqb11]

You literally did! No way you are a real Vols fan. Let's see...
I need @LegionnaireOfTheMiserable's opinion. A troll, or no?

Show me where I said Heupel is on the hot seat now. You won't find it. But please show me

 

[vols40]

Nate Peterman has zero to do with this conversation nor has any relevancy. Apparently you will try to deflect and dance your way around admitting you don't think Heupel is capable of getting a 4 or 5 star QB prepared to start with 3 weeks of practice and a game against a 3 win CUSA team.

Just say it. I'm not sure why you are hating on Heupel.

I'm not sure you are saying what you think you are saying.

First you don't listen to people around the program who are all but saying Merk is as sure as in the January Portal as Blew Carter. So auditioning him for another team is not going to happen. So if that is not going to happen you double down on your insanity by saying that we should start Mac. The last time a backup got their start against Florida in the swamp was Peterman and that failed miserable. Hopefully I have crayoned that well enough for you to see the similarities meaning my Peterman analogy is spot on.

It's difficult to be this good but it's the cross I bear. Smart man once told me Don't apologize for being great.

 

[Peradox1K]

Saying there is nothing of significance for 9-3 is not giving up.

Playing for the future is not giving up.

A coach who could have a warm seat next year needs to do everything possible to ensure the team is ready to roll in week 1 is not giving up.

This isn’t hard to understand.

Here you go.

 

[JMSqb11]

I'm not sure you are saying what you think you are saying.

First you don't listen to people around the program who are all but saying Merk is as sure as in the January Portal as Blew Carter. So auditioning him for another team is not going to happen. So if that is not going to happen you double down on your insanity by saying that we should start Mac. The last time a backup got their start against Florida in the swamp was Peterman and that failed miserable. Hopefully I have crayoned that well enough for you to see the similarities meaning my Peterman analogy is spot on.

It's difficult to be this good but it's the cross I bear. Smart man once told me Don't apologize for being great.

Why do you not trust Heupel to get a QB ready to start with 3 weeks of practice and an actual game against a powderpuff? Why won't you answer the question?