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rockytop25 said:


Oh boy
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I feel like if we waited this long, then it's gotta be someone on the Dodgers/Blue Jays that is our top target. Maybe we don't end up with them for whatever reason, but Gibbons has been available this entire time and we haven't hired him yet.

Also, I think Bowman might have burned some bridges this season with his criticism of the front office. So I am not sure he is quite as plugged in anymore (not that he was a big insider before).
 
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rockytop25 said:

Wish Bowman would add a little more context when he says stuff like this
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Yeah , why exactly does it no longer feel that way? Because he wasn't announced the day after the WS? If it were Thursday and there had been no announcement, I might believe that were true. But Lehmann celebrated all night Sat night after on a game that ended after midnight. Then was on a plane home sometime on Sunday. The parade is today. If he is the next manager, I would expect an announcement before Thursday.
 
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rockytop25 said:


Nevermind, Bowman is all over the place apparently
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Again, without context it seems he is only saying that because Lehmann hasn't been announced/hasn't interviewed yet. But it's not even been 36 hours since the WS ended. So unless he is hearing from someone with direct knowledge that the Braves aren't interested, then this seems like speculation at best.
 
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SGMVols said:
Back then SEC relevance consisted of just us and Florida, and sometimes Bama. Way different now
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05_never_again said:
There were definitely more centers of power in the game in those days. The Big Ten was probably the single best conference on a year-in, year-out basis. The Big 12 was good. In the early 2000s Southern Cal was great.

Today, it is more centralized, and it isn't completely due to conference expansion. The SEC had become the clear best conference in the country even before Mizzou and A&M joined.
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People do not realize how bad the SEC was in the 90's and how many programs were on probation. Auburn basically spent the entire decade on probation. Vanderbilt and Kentucky were complete bottom dwellers. Arkansas and South Carolina were not ready for SEC football (especially South Carolina). Ole Miss & Mississippi State dealt with probation as well. LSU couldn't find the right coach. Georgia was stuck. Fulmer had the talent advantage 90% of the time and Spurrier just feasted.
 
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Give me an old school manager. One that believes Bunting, stealing bases, and getting on base is important. One that believes a starting pitchers arm doesnt fall off after 100 pitches.
 
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zjcvols said:
People do not realize how bad the SEC was in the 90's and how many programs were on probation. Auburn basically spent the entire decade on probation. Vanderbilt and Kentucky were complete bottom dwellers. Arkansas and South Carolina were not ready for SEC football (especially South Carolina). Ole Miss & Mississippi State dealt with probation as well. LSU couldn't find the right coach. Georgia was stuck. Fulmer had the talent advantage 90% of the time and Spurrier just feasted.
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No consistent powers except for Tennessee and UF in that time, that's for sure. UK, Vandy, and South Carolina were Sun Belt-level programs at various times. USCjr went 1-21 from 1998-99. Vandy went 25-87 (7-73) from 1995-2004. UK had 8 seasons where they won 5 games or less between 1990 and 2000, including 4 seasons where they won less than 3 games.
 
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vols 30 said:
Give me an old school manager. One that believes Bunting, stealing bases, and getting on base is important. One that believes a starting pitchers arm doesnt fall off after 100 pitches.
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That was literally Snitker. And he was a terrible manager. If Snit wasn't our manager, several of the injuries and poor performances from this year likely don't happen. Sale doesn't break a rib if a smarter manager takes him out before the 9th inning with a big lead. Holmes and Schwelly might not hurt their elbows if a smarter manager realizes that pitchers who aren't used to throwing a lot of innings probably need to be rested more often. A smarter manager puts Ozuna on the IL much earlier and maybe he would have actually been useful once he came back.

Today's baseball is not conducive to old school managers. The game has changed too much.
 
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Carp said:
That was literally Snitker. And he was a terrible manager. If Snit wasn't our manager, several of the injuries and poor performances from this year likely don't happen. Sale doesn't break a rib if a smarter manager takes him out before the 9th inning with a big lead. Holmes and Schwelly might not hurt their elbows if a smarter manager realizes that pitchers who aren't used to throwing a lot of innings probably need to be rested more often. A smarter manager puts Ozuna on the IL much earlier and maybe he would have actually been useful once he came back.

Today's baseball is not conducive to old school managers. The game has changed too much.
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That sure wasnt Snitker. He pulled starting pitchers for breaking a sweat
 
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vols 30 said:
That sure wasnt Snitker. He pulled starting pitchers for breaking a sweat
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Incorrect. Or did not you watch Sale break a rib in the 9th inning after 116 pitches and a 5 run lead?

That is literally the biggest criticism of Snit is that he always leaves a pitcher in too long and they get shelled.

Look at the data. The average ERA among pitchers is a full .50 runs higher when a pitcher reaches the 3rd time through the order. The average OPS+ goes from 91 the first time a hitter sees a pitcher, to 117 the 3rd time that hitters sees the same pitcher in a game. When it comes to the 3rd time through the order, RPs need to be warming up and SPs need to be on a short leash. It's a statistical fact.
 
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